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Darth Payne 06-14-2010 10:59 PM

New TOR Trailer
 
Just thought i should point out the new TOR trailer to those that might not know about it.

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Fredi 06-14-2010 11:08 PM

Sick!!! I hope they make like 5 more trailers lol

TriggerGod 06-14-2010 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Payne (Post 2731666)
Just thought i should point out the new TOR trailer to those that might not know about it.

Link

Lol, when the Jedi came in and started doing the flips, I began to flash back to when I played JKA, where everyone with a double bladed saber kata'd ad nauseum.

That trailer made me think that TFU and Republic Commando had a child and became an MMO.

JediAthos 06-14-2010 11:17 PM

It's up on the TOR board...but I'll reiterate my response...meh...more CGI. I'm more interested in game play. TBH you could almost take that video and make it an advertisement for The Clone Wars which kinda made me cry a little...

Darth Avlectus 06-15-2010 12:19 AM

That trooper reminded me of Jango Fett. That Jedi chick reminded me of Bastila. I had a flashback to Basty vs Malak on the leviathan.

Malgus went from pretty to ****ty real quick. That crushing assault on him reminded me of all the times Iron Man has been put through similar. That was awesome with the detonator grenade BTW. The trooper guy had a badass scar afterward as well.

Now we know why Malgus needed the face mask.

Darth Payne 06-15-2010 12:22 AM

Eh?

Didn't this take place *after* the first cinematic trailer?

igyman 06-15-2010 03:55 AM

This trailer looks awesome from a technical point of view, but it makes me want this game even less than before. It's interesting how the Sith have the same Star Destroyers as those in the original trilogy (the previous trailer had the same issue), even more interesting is that the Republic uses a clone army whose armor and faces differ little from their prequel trilogy counterparts and all of this is supposed to happen more than 3500 years before the movies.:indif:

Astrotoy7 06-15-2010 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by igyman (Post 2731711)
...and all of this is supposed to happen more than 3500 years before the movies.:indif:

Indeed, the trailer is an awesome spectical, but there's some epic retconning and canon-raping going on :D

mtfbwya

Quanon 06-15-2010 05:04 AM

I wished this was a trailer for a more "adult" clone war series. Both trailers are well done, but it's not ToR in my eyes. Where are my silver shiny Sith troopers, t'is just plain old SW as we know it for decades :(

Oh, well, I wasn't planning on buying this game anyway, so why am I whining :lol:

Mandalore The Shadow 06-15-2010 06:12 AM

It's like watching a movie it's great. What's with the dudes that look like clone troopers?

Darth Payne 06-15-2010 06:20 AM

Those, are supposed to be Republic Troopers.

Armors a bit bulkier than Clone/Storm Troopers.

Pho3nix 06-15-2010 06:58 AM

Hmm, weird how they re-hashed the music from Episode III :S

Also, one of the sith droids at 1:30 kinda sounds like a Varactyl squeal

Other than that, It's a pretty cool cinematic.

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Originally Posted by igyman (Post 2731711)
It's interesting how the Sith have the same Star Destroyers as those in the original trilogy (the previous trailer had the same issue), even more interesting is that the Republic uses a clone army whose armor and faces differ little from their prequel trilogy counterparts and all of this is supposed to happen more than 3500 years before the movies.:indif:

Yep, that is interesting. One of the aspects of Star Wars I've always been bothered with.

jrrtoken 06-15-2010 07:49 AM

At first I thought it was a trailer for Battlefront 3, seeing as it had Clone troopers fighting the Empire, in a hypothetical, Ultimate Showdown fashion. But then I realized that this was a legit, canonical showcase for TOR, and I died a little inside.

SpaceAlex 06-15-2010 08:35 AM

They could've, at least, composed some new music. :p

JediAthos 06-15-2010 09:47 AM

I WANT to want this game....I really do...and I will likely at least try it in the end...but this making it look like it could be any other SW game in any other time period is deflating to say the least. I expected..well...I don't know what I expected, but not this.

Astor 06-15-2010 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by PastramiX (Post 2731735)
At first I thought it was a trailer for Battlefront 3, seeing as it had Clone troopers fighting the Empire, in a hypothetical, Ultimate Showdown fashion. But then I realized that this was a legit, canonical showcase for TOR, and I died a little inside.

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Originally Posted by JediAthos (Post 2731749)
I WANT to want this game....I really do...and I will likely at least try it in the end...but this making it look like it could be any other SW game in any other time period is deflating to say the least. I expected..well...I don't know what I expected, but not this.

I've been looking forward to this game since it was announced, but with every new video, preview and screenshot, my enthusiasm dies a little.

It seems that BioWare and EA are trying too hard to make it look (as PastramiX says) some sort of horrible mix of the Prequel and Original Trilogies. I don't want to see triangular Sith warships, or hear their officers being referred to as 'Moffs', or see Stormtrooper wannabes being killed by Barriss Offee cosplayers.

Where's the originality?

Endorenna 06-15-2010 11:03 AM

Eh, I don't really see the complaint. Bioware said they were wanting to make TOR like the original trilogy, so it's not like this is a surprise.

Anyway, I liked the cinematic. The first one was better, I thought, but this one was okay.

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Originally Posted by GTA:SWcity (Post 2731691)
Malgus went from pretty to ****ty real quick. That crushing assault on him reminded me of all the times Iron Man has been put through similar. That was awesome with the detonator grenade BTW. The trooper guy had a badass scar afterward as well.

Now we know why Malgus needed the face mask.

I don't think that was Malgus--just another Sith Lord.

JediAthos 06-15-2010 11:25 AM

Something else that bugged me was it seemed like a lot of the Sith were wearing Revanesque masks. I don't know if they idolize Revan...or maybe its been 3000 years and nobody knows who the hell Revan was, but it just seemed cheesy.

TriggerGod 06-15-2010 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JediAthos (Post 2731765)
Something else that bugged me was it seemed like a lot of the Sith were wearing Revanesque masks. I don't know if they idolize Revan...or maybe its been 3000 years and nobody knows who the hell Revan was, but it just seemed cheesy.

Its their way of appealing to us KOTOR fanboys. They think because there is a mask that resembles Revan's in game, it'll draw a certain fanbase (us) to buying and spending our money.

Drunkside 06-15-2010 01:05 PM

It looks freaking awesome, but as has been said, the troopers´ armor shouldnt really look like that at all and it does look like a battlefront 3 trailer. I dont think this has anything to do with the actual game whatsoever, exept maybe the character design though, which i find very weird as in my opinion trailers should show the potential customers something concrete instead of a pretty tech demo.

Totenkopf 06-15-2010 01:15 PM

Given that it's 300 +/- years, no reason that the sith outfits should look like in the game either. Frankly, never liked the KOTOR sith armor anyway. However, while the armor screams SW in the trailer, perhaps different designs might have been more apt. Still, maybe tech and sartorial design in the galaxy far, far away don't change all that quickly or dramatically over time. Might've considered playing it but for it's being an MMO. Still, decent trailer, full of action.

JediAthos 06-15-2010 01:39 PM

Maybe there will be some ability to customize the trooper armor with colors and insignias or something that will set it apart...

Seikan 06-15-2010 02:09 PM

Well... They're killing star wars!!!! They seem to have a greater technology that there is in the prequels, event greater that in episode III (the last moovie, so it's seems more advanced)... And come on, the guy took a rocket right on his face and he survives... then a grenade... still alive, and after this, we have a force "KAME KAME HA!"... and a jedi stoping a light saber with bare hands... and clone troopers...
And in the first trailer the sith ship looks as the Low Altitude Assault Transport/infantry (LAAT/i) in the clone wars... couldn't they keep the "OLD republic" idea... because it seems more to me "The New Republic"... in Kotor there was the feeling that it was older, the vibro swords, the different ships, the basic droids, and all that stuff, but here, it just don't fit in the era...

mimartin 06-15-2010 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Seikan (Post 2731789)
and a jedi stoping a light saber with bare hands...

Personal I donít have a problem with that considering Vader was able to reflect blaster fire with his gloved hand in the Original Trilogy. It isnít that big of leap to believe a Jedi with a disciplined mind could reflect a lightsaber considering Vaderís ability.

Trench 06-15-2010 03:40 PM

Awesome trailer. Still don't want the game. But the trailers are a good alternative to TCW.

Should I feel bad that I downloaded that trailer and put it on my MP3 player to watch later? :xp:

Seikan 06-15-2010 04:07 PM

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Personal I donít have a problem with that considering Vader was able to reflect blaster fire with his gloved hand in the Original Trilogy. It isnít that big of leap to believe a Jedi with a disciplined mind could reflect a lightsaber considering Vaderís ability.
Well a blaster is not exactly as destructive as a lightsaber... you can't melt a steel door, with a blaster pistol, and with a light saber you surely can.

adamqd 06-15-2010 04:22 PM

I guess we have got to think ourselves lucky that it resembles the old republic at all... If George had any interest in the EU at all we would be crying ourselves to sleep at night forever, cus he would make this "Nick Jr meets Ewok adventures for 4 year olds and up... with added retcon!:)!!"

So all in all Cool... but, die clonetroopers forever and never returneth!

Totenkopf 06-15-2010 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Seikan (Post 2731817)
Well a blaster is not exactly as destructive as a lightsaber... you can't melt a steel door, with a blaster pistol, and with a light saber you surely can.

But, as Yoda has said.....the Force is a powerful ally. Mind over matter...or magic if you prefer. ;) Besides, not like she could keep it up forever.

Darth Avlectus 06-15-2010 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Endorenna (Post 2731762)
I don't think that was Malgus--just another Sith Lord.

Shame milady, you obviously did not read the article below the video--you must have a faster buffering connection than I do. ;) (click the OP's link if you're still skeptical!):
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The Battle of Alderaan. The Republic's gravest hour. Recently promoted to Darth, Malgus launches the first of many surprise attacks that would become his trademark during the Great War, perfectly timing the assault with a feint that pulls the Republic fleet light-years away. Thousands of assault droids and hundreds of Sith set the heart of the Republic ablaze, and Alderaan's few defenders are swept away with ease.

Unknown to Darth Malgus, small groups of Republic Troopers are stationed on Alderaan, some recovering from wounds, others are awaiting orders. As these brave soldiers take to the forests and mountains to fight a guerilla campaign against Malgus's forces, the Republic fleet rushes back to repel the invasion. With time running out and Alderaan's capitol threatened, it falls to Havoc Squad, the elite Republic Special Forces unit, to coordinate one last desperate stand against Malgus' vastly superior numbers.
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Originally Posted by Darth Payne (Post 2731694)
Eh?

Didn't this take place *after* the first cinematic trailer?

If you can come up with evidence to support that position, I will gladly retract mine. Until then, I can't say I agree with you as the Sacking of Coruscant was actually quite late in the Sith invasion campaign, and in the "Deceived" trailer, Malgus' face still looked like it had some burns under that metal face mask.

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Originally Posted by mimartin (Post 2731803)
Personal I donít have a problem with that considering Vader was able to reflect blaster fire with his gloved hand in the Original Trilogy. It isnít that big of leap to believe a Jedi with a disciplined mind could reflect a lightsaber considering Vaderís ability.

This and if you don't mind my adding this in, you also can choose to have that specific power in TSL. Matter of fact, it's excellent in a hail of blaster fire when you don't have your lightsaber to deflect the bolts. This seems like a natural evolution of the power IMO.

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Originally Posted by Seikan (Post 2731789)
Well... They're killing star wars!!!! They seem to have a greater technology that there is in the prequels, event greater that in episode III (the last moovie, so it's seems more advanced)...

When you consider the craftsmanship that went into the props for the original trilogy, that alone could be quite a bit more time consuming and difficult than to just CGI everything. As time has elapsed and technology improved IRL, obviously we want to elaborate it more with later released movies and games. While I agree with your point it doesn't look good to have more and more advanced technology going backwards in the storyline, do remember this universe takes place over several millenia. Why would it not be logical to think that there were some lost powers and lost technologies at numerous points throughout the EU timeline?

While that's admittedly cheap (and I personally sort of dislike that), I don't see how it wouldn't/couldn't work out.


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And come on, the guy took a rocket right on his face and he survives...
I thought it was more the left torso and buffered out by the force...But that could just be me.

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then a grenade...
Maybe a weaker stunning grenade, like a flash grenade? Only minor burns and little lasting damage. :D

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still alive, and after this, we have a force "KAME KAME HA!"... and a jedi stoping a light saber with bare hands...
Re: Stoping lightsaber, see above mimartin's reply and my :twocents:...At least she didn't say "Ha-do-ken!" when launching that deluge.

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and clone troopers...
And in the first trailer the sith ship looks as the Low Altitude Assault Transport/infantry (LAAT/i) in the clone wars...
I kind of wondered about the lack of creativity there too. I suppose, armor doesn't really change all that much over time. Look at our modern armor for law enforcement, and you can still see its roots back in Renaissance or Samurai feudal ages and older.

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couldn't they keep the "OLD republic" idea... because it seems more to me "The New Republic"... in Kotor there was the feeling that it was older, the vibro swords, the different ships, the basic droids, and all that stuff, but here, it just don't fit in the era...
I do tend to agree with you there and I do share the opinion that this game is borrowing too much from the movies. I'd have liked to see some real differences here, personally.

TriggerGod 06-15-2010 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GTA:SWcity (Post 2731822)
Maybe a weaker stunning grenade, like a flash grenade? Only minor burns and little lasting damage. :D

I thought it would be more of a concussive grenade, considering it still did damage, but considerably less then a frag, plasma, or even a thermal detonator. Its a less-than-lethal armament, and its meant to damage and stun, not to kill.

As for blocking the lightsaber, I could see she had an 'armor' glove of some sorts. And its possible it could be made of one of the lightsaber resistant alloys, like Mandalorian Iron, or it could be simple metal empowered by the force.

mimartin 06-15-2010 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Seikan (Post 2731817)
Well a blaster is not exactly as destructive as a lightsaber... you can't melt a steel door, with a blaster pistol, and with a light saber you surely can.

It is a trailer for a game, they always supercharge force powers in a game. Add to that it being a trailer having to come up with the wow factor and you get stuff like this. I was just saying that I did not have a problem with it since it makes since if Vader (and his undisciplined mind could stop a blaster shot) it made sense to me that a disciplined Jedi could most likely do more.

Besides as Yoda said, “You must feel the Force around you; here, between you, me, the tree, the rock, everywhere, yes. Even between the land and the ship.” So really the destructive power of the weapon would not matter as it does not touch the hand, but the Force which is even between the lightsaber tip and the palm.

I think my eyes have just became even more brown.

Seikan 06-15-2010 05:09 PM

Well the problem with the armors, is that the clone armors are based on the mandalorian armors, the Mandalorian Shock Trooper armor, that was invented thousands years after, so these armors that look just so much as the clone trooper's armors, are clearly based on an armor model created thousands years later, so based on mandalorian armors...

And also, the bounty hunters:

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The new armor was a collection of blast resistant plates, made from Mandalorian iron or duraplast, which were attached to a waterproof, armorweave flight suit. A liner shirt with a micro energy field projector and two layers of ceramic plates greatly improved protection around the chest, back, and stomach. This careful layering of segmented armor plates ensured mobility, which could be further increased by wearing a jetpack. The Mandalorians began to see the value of extra weapons mounted on the suit, and so simple dart shooters, grappling wires, wrist-mounted rocket launchers and flamethrowers were added to the overall assault capabilities of a Mandalorian Supercommando
And then.... the bounty Hunters, have like the republic forced invented an armor creater thousands years later...

Seriously, if they wanted too much to just trace all the existing stuff of star wars, on all the eras, they should have made a game AFTER the prequels... like this there would be no problem by taking the triangle ships, the LAAT/i, the clone's armors, the mandalorian supercommando armor, the emperial uniforms, the ship looking almost as a TIE fighter while it's far, and probably more...

Endorenna 06-15-2010 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GTA:SWcity (Post 2731822)
Shame milady, you obviously did not read the article below the video--you must have a faster buffering connection than I do. ;) (click the OP's link if you're still skeptical!):

Well, I did read it, actually, so I was expecting Malgus to show up. However, that Sith really didn't look like him--to me, at least. Maybe he's just younger than he is in the Decieved trailer and looks a lot different around the eyes.

About the grenade: I figured it was a grenade designed to kill (not a flash/stun), but the Sith contained it with the Force as it went off, creating a shockwave but little collateral damage.

Negative Sun 06-15-2010 05:50 PM

Fact:

This trailer and the previous TOR one are better than the entire prequel trilogy combined minus the Qui-Gon/Obi-Wan vs Maul duel...

JediAthos 06-15-2010 06:16 PM

Ummm...k...not sure I'd go that far...the prequels had some redeeming qualities...at least for me anyway. There are plenty of things I could have done without but to me this trailer looks like you could substitute any particular time in SW timeline and it would work. So, yeah...gonna have to ahead and disagree with you there.

HdVaderII 06-15-2010 07:07 PM

With the kind of graphics technology these trailers are showing, why have a cheesy looking kids show, when you could have an incredible looking adult Clone Wars show.

igyman 06-15-2010 07:18 PM

I'm probably stating the obvious here, but it's because "incredibly looking 30 minute show" = extremely expensive, while "cheesy looking 30 minute kids show" = a bargain.

JediAthos 06-15-2010 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by HdVaderII (Post 2731862)
With the kind of graphics technology these trailers are showing, why have a cheesy looking kids show, when you could have an incredible looking adult Clone Wars show.

One word...demographic

Canderis 06-15-2010 07:59 PM

who the hell charges a sith with A KNIFE!
and also who blows up a grenade 5 inches from your face?

Darth Payne 06-15-2010 08:00 PM

Mandalorians?


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