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RC-3556 10-09-2010 12:24 PM

Karen Traviss (un)official thread
 
Seeing as there has been so much debate about Karen Traviss on these boards, I thought that I should put a debate thread in here, seeing as we all have an opinion on the Republic Commando and Imperial Commando author. Please move this if needed Astor.

Mandalorian Mercenary 10-09-2010 03:40 PM

Glad someone thought of starting this :)

I personally think she should've finished the series, she could have always found another publisher or something.

RC-3556 10-10-2010 05:37 AM

Yeah, although there aren't many publishers that will agree with star wars books.

Astor 10-10-2010 05:56 AM

My opinion of Traviss is well documented throughout this forum, but I'll clarify it a little - I have no problem with people liking her work, but it's not for me.

I liked the first few Republic Commando books, but her other work in the Star Wars universe was unforgivable, not least because she gladly admitted never having read a single book or even watched the damn films before writing about the universe at large. This lack of knowledge was plain to see right from the start, beginning with her 'only 3 million clones in the galaxy' claim.

There's something very wrong with an author writing for with no knowledge of how large the lore for it is. It's not entirely her fault, but her bragging about not knowing anything about Star Wars certainly did her no favours.

Although the worst thing by far was her insulting behaviour towards fans who disagreed with her - calling them 'Talifans', and equating anyone who defended the Jedi with the Nazis.

Criticism is part of being an author, especially a Star Wars author - that kind of behaviour is just unacceptable, and unbecoming of anyone who wants to be considered a serious author.

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Originally Posted by Mandalorian Mercenary
I personally think she should've finished the series, she could have always found another publisher or something.

That wouldn't be possible - Lucas Licensing has an exclusive contract with Del Rey to publish anything with Star Wars on it.

Alexrd 10-10-2010 07:11 AM

Karen Traviss: Jedi are bad and evil because I say so. Mandalorians are good and the best because I say so.

I think that explains what I think of her books.

RC-3556 10-11-2010 12:05 PM

Although she painted Jedi in a very bad light, and she did get a bit extreme she taught us a lot about Mandalore, and afterall, mando'ade are awesome.

Mandalorian Mercenary 10-11-2010 04:15 PM

Yeah Mando'a are the best :D

Hm, didn't know that Astor. Thanks for telling me :)

HockeyGoalie35 10-11-2010 09:11 PM

see, i dont mind her POV (jedi<mandos)
i just didnt like the WAY she writed......it just didnt flow right to me

Samnmax221 10-12-2010 01:36 AM

Karen Traviss is a terrible author who can't take any amount of constructive criticism without flipping out. She turned Mandalorians into a bunch of generic space marine characters which is pretty much all she writes, and probably gets off on it. Also, her work on LOTF contributed to it being even worse than DN.

tl;dr Karen Traviss is a big, stupid, PMSing baby who can't seem to write anything but homoerotic stories about space marines.

Alexrd 10-12-2010 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RC-3556 (Post 2751961)
and afterall, mando'ade are awesome.

They are because she says so. She made them a bunch of Mary Sue's. As for the Jedi, I better not get started...

Johnny Snake 10-13-2010 09:06 AM

Well, i'm on the second book so far (Triple Zero), and till now the book is very good. Showing their past and all this things (Skitara, Jango, etc...). The only thing i really don't like is that military pression you know. Like the guys said before, she transformed the Mandalorian Warriors (one of the coolest guys in SW universe) in Marines, and that sux a lot. But the story regarding Omega Squad, Delta Squad, Etc.. is nice. I like Etain too, despite shes an unexperienced Jedi.

RC-3556 10-17-2010 05:19 AM

Those are strong words samnmax, or as mando's would say gar ramaanar par megin.

Astor 10-17-2010 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by RC-3556 (Post 2752578)
Those are strong words samnmax, or as mando's would say gar ramaanar par megin.

I'm sorry, 'You die for that'?

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RC-3556 10-17-2010 10:08 AM

yeah, for that accusation. I see you're playing a great game.

Alexrd 10-17-2010 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RC-3556 (Post 2752578)
Those are strong words samnmax, or as mando's would say gar ramaanar par megin.

Strong and true.

RC-3556 10-17-2010 11:10 AM

Nope, just strong

Alexrd 10-17-2010 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RC-3556 (Post 2752590)
Nope, just strong

Do you see any counter-argument from the Jedi in her books?

Astor 10-17-2010 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RC-3556 (Post 2752585)
yeah, for that accusation.

Disagreeing with each other is no reason to make threats, in jest or not.

RC-3556 10-18-2010 12:31 PM

Sorry Astor for that. BTW she did not critisize the jedi in her TCW books, and the RC books were from the viewpoint of mandos and clones

Alexrd 10-18-2010 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RC-3556 (Post 2752697)
Sorry Astor for that. BTW she did not critisize the jedi in her TCW books,

Yes, she did.

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Originally Posted by RC-3556 (Post 2752697)
and the RC books were from the viewpoint of mandos and clones

And what about the rest?

RC-3556 10-19-2010 01:22 PM

I admit that she was not the correct writer for anything other than CW books,GOW and Halo, and the thing she did with Boba Fett was bang out of order.

Mandalorian Mercenary 10-20-2010 08:10 PM

I dunno, the Boba books were good. Specially Bloodlines, I read it once, then skipped through it again to all the parts with Fett in it :nutz3:

CommanderQ 10-20-2010 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mandalorian Mercenary (Post 2752988)
I dunno, the Boba books were good. Specially Bloodlines, I read it once, then skipped through it again to all the parts with Fett in it :nutz3:

I did exactly the same thing....the Boba Fett parts were the best parts in that book....:D

RC-3556 10-21-2010 01:40 PM

They were good but she shouldn't have used that lame excuse to keep him alive.

Mandalorian Mercenary 10-21-2010 03:15 PM

Well it makes sense...I mean, it's quite possible to recieve a bone transplant from a relative (in this case a clone) and survive. But yeah, I see where you're coming from.

michonicle 10-24-2010 10:10 AM

her books
 
I read one of her books. It was okay; it wasn't the best book I've read.
After playing RC I wished she had written books concentrating more on Delta Squad. And what about Sev? I know she said something like she had nothing to do with that, but it would be nice to know what happened.

RC-3556 10-24-2010 10:46 AM

I believe there should have been more Delta, Sev and Scorch 's humor was great

michonicle 10-24-2010 01:13 PM

Scorch= funny
 
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Originally Posted by RC-3556 (Post 2753315)
I believe there should have been more Delta, Sev and Scorch 's humor was great

I totally agree. Sev and Scorch's convos were hilarious. And Scorch is funny on his own. My favourite line by him: "Something nailed the leader! Can I be in charge now?" :)

RC-3556 10-24-2010 03:22 PM

I loved
Scorch: Man, this place gives me the creeps.
Sev: Ah, Scorch... Nothing better than a jungle hunt. Hiding in the bush, putting a plasma bolt through a hostile's cranium...
Sev: Makes me feel alive.
Scorch: Okay, now Oh-Seven's giving me the creeps.

michonicle 10-24-2010 04:22 PM

I found that funny as well. Here's some more I liked:

Scorch: I think we may have to blast our way through that... And I'm *not* just saying that because I love to blow stuff up.
Sev: Yes, you are.

i loved this one:

Scorch: [after killing a Geonosian] Hey Sev, this one looks like your mother.

Hilarious!

RC-3556 10-29-2010 12:15 PM

I know. Made me laugh so much despite being impossible.


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