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jermy721 09-21-2011 10:29 PM

Grim Fandango Fan Game
 
So theres a lot of Monkey Island and Maniac Mansion fan games being made ( and a sam and max one currently in production) But No fan games for Grim Fandango. So i thought lets do it! Lets gather together all of you brilliantly talented people and make it happen. We need story writers , Artists, voice actors, programmers, animators and just about anything else you can think of. So if interested please reply

Longcat 09-22-2011 11:35 AM

Interested but not optimistic. What are you aiming for exactly? A remake? A sequel? What is you story idea? Are you planing to do it in 3D or 2D? What do you bring to the table?

I think you need to flesh out your concept a bit more if you want to attract anyone willing to contribute to your project.

Jackpumpkinhead 09-22-2011 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jermy721 (Post 2791593)
So theres a lot of Monkey Island and Maniac Mansion fan games being made ( and a sam and max one currently in production) But No fan games for Grim Fandango. So i thought lets do it! Lets gather together all of you brilliantly talented people and make it happen. We need story writers , Artists, voice actors, programmers, animators and just about anything else you can think of. So if interested please reply

i would be willing to throw my "talent" in to help. though i have yet to play Grimm :confused:

Thrik 09-22-2011 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jackpumpkinhead (Post 2791637)
i would be willing to throw my "talent" in to help. though i have yet to play Grimm :confused:

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bgbennyboy 09-22-2011 04:55 PM

I second that .................................................

Alex IDV 09-22-2011 05:19 PM

That's morse, isn't it? ;)

Jackpumpkinhead 09-22-2011 05:39 PM

i know, i know

there are tons of the old lucas games that i still need to get to
i kind of got stuck on monkey island and stopped there

jermy721 09-22-2011 06:44 PM

I want 2D (comi style) and it will be a game that takes place after the original. New characters same world basically.

N3mo 09-22-2011 09:17 PM

I'm so interested.
I suggest the Zelda Wind Waker style. Not the game engine, the graphic style.

jermy721 09-22-2011 09:47 PM

^ I don't know if that will work. That seems to complicated for the average programmers to do. We usually use ags when we make these games and i don't know if that kind of style will work

Cyrus7 09-23-2011 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jermy721 (Post 2791670)
I want 2D (comi style) and it will be a game that takes place after the original. New characters same world basically.

Love the idea! I think I could help you with plot and puzzle design, but we need a really good artist.

jermy721 09-23-2011 06:35 PM

Alright now that we've got a few people we need a first idea to start the story. As i said before will be a sequel to the fist game but it will a different protagonist. We need to work within this realm for the story idea

Cyrus7 09-24-2011 10:11 AM

Whom would you rather want to be the protagonist: a secondary character from the first game or a totally new one?

N3mo 09-24-2011 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jermy721 (Post 2791684)
^ I don't know if that will work. That seems to complicated for the average programmers to do. We usually use ags when we make these games and i don't know if that kind of style will work

It's not about programming, it's about graphic. Instead of CurseOfMI style, I was suggesting something like this. Just to be more close to the originale game concept.


Some idea for the story.
In the original Grim, Manny makes a four-year travel just for saving a woman and pay off a debt. Hector is dead, the corruption is over (?) and maybe there is no more need of the Lost Souls Alliance. BUT:

1- A new young man comes to the land. He doesn' want to go to the next level but just to enojoy his stay among the dead and make a profit, resumin the falling criminal organization. Until something makes him change is mind.

2- Hector is dead, but there are still lots of lost soul out there. Some of them still walking the land, some of there still imprisoned somewhere. One of this prisoner guides the others to freedom.

3- Strange nights in Rubacava, one man was found sprouted under mysterious circumstances. A young (but dead) detective must find the truth, among corrupt police and flashing nightclubs, he will find the purpose of his non-life.

jermy721 09-24-2011 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyrus7 (Post 2791772)
Whom would you rather want to be the protagonist: a secondary character from the first game or a totally new one?

Totally new main character and villain. Secondary characters can appear but i don't want them to be a big part. I want as original as possible

Thrik 09-26-2011 05:15 AM

I think if this project is going to take off you need to define what exactly the game is going to be about and who will be doing what. You're clearly decided to take the reigns as the project leader, but project leaders typically take a very hands-on role when it comes to indie games. Are you going to be writing the story, programming, or what? Because if you're not writing the story I think you need to hold off on determining what and who will feature in the story because that's the writer's job.

Or to put it another way: if you're going to be an armchair project leader who expects a team to create his ideal game without doing anything himself this project won't get anywhere, and projects like this almost never work out unless things are planned properly from the outset rather than basically making it up as the project goes along — that I can tell you from experience.

Also, release episodically. Keeps team motivation up, keeps fans interested, and gives you more than one chance to hit the headlines. ;)

Cyrus7 09-26-2011 01:37 PM

You may get some inspiration from this :thmbup1:

gos 09-27-2011 01:48 AM

i agree with those who said COMI style 100% !, but the problem is its not easy to do that style...its so hard, but i dont know how are you planning to do this.

http://i51.tinypic.com/xl9sv9.jpg


:thmbup1:

N3mo 09-29-2011 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Thrik (Post 2791879)
I think if this project is going to take off you need to define what exactly the game is going to be about and who will be doing what. You're clearly decided to take the reigns as the project leader, but project leaders typically take a very hands-on role when it comes to indie games. Are you going to be writing the story, programming, or what? Because if you're not writing the story I think you need to hold off on determining what and who will feature in the story because that's the writer's job.

Or to put it another way: if you're going to be an armchair project leader who expects a team to create his ideal game without doing anything himself this project won't get anywhere, and projects like this almost never work out unless things are planned properly from the outset rather than basically making it up as the project goes along that I can tell you from experience.

Also, release episodically. Keeps team motivation up, keeps fans interested, and gives you more than one chance to hit the headlines. ;)

This is absolutely right. Things like these needs planning. We can do a brainstorming all together for the main plot and storyline and other ideas, but then we need to split the work.

Cyrus7 09-30-2011 05:51 AM

I agree with both Gos and Thrik. I think the plot should revolve around some sort of detective/supernatural mystery, perhaps involving mafia as well. I suppose Glottis should certainly be in the game (he's way too cool to forget about him), perhaps as a piano player in the bar.

Cyrus7 10-01-2011 05:15 AM

Why not Toonstruck 2? :confused:

N3mo 10-02-2011 12:12 PM

This was made a year ago for a little personal project (never realized), just for let you see what I had in mind. But I don't see here a solid project with active people. Come on, it's Grim Fandango!

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/1782/studioaw.jpg

Jon N/A 11-15-2011 11:12 AM

I'd like to help with the story!
And since I'm helping with the GFDelux Project to remodel and rerender the 3D backgrounds, I may be able to help with that as well. Especially if I get to learn 3D charachter modelling/sculpting.

A good question to ask is, Whether it's best for the fan-game to has a hero and antagonist similar to the usual TimSchafer character type [A guy who loves the new tech (bad) and the guy who loves the old tech (good). See Trenched, Full Throttle, ...] or should it have a totally different story style.
I'm for taking a different story style. I say let's take the surreal mood and atmosphere of the game and add some dark-humor a la Terry Gilliam (Brazil) or Coen Brothers (Barton Fink/Fargo/TheBigLebowski).
I think a good approach for creating the story is to take GF's world and mix it with a classic story/fable and expand/brain-storm on that idea till we reach somewhere.

@N3mo: I love your style! It's like a hybrid of Saul Bass and the classic Pink Panther toons + Mif2000 [mif2000.blogspot.com] [gameletgame.blogspot.com]. I'm gonna follow your blog. Why don't you post your art and design on DeviantArt?

N3mo 11-17-2011 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jon N/A (Post 2795485)
...since I'm helping with the GFDelux Project

Good luck with that! And if there is a little something I can do for it, PM me!

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Originally Posted by Jon N/A (Post 2795485)
A good question to ask is, Whether it's best for the fan-game to has a hero and antagonist similar to the usual TimSchafer character type [A guy who loves the new tech (bad) and the guy who loves the old tech (good). See Trenched, Full Throttle, ...] or should it have a totally different story style.
I'm for taking a different story style. I say let's take the surreal mood and atmosphere of the game and add some dark-humor a la Terry Gilliam (Brazil) or Coen Brothers (Barton Fink/Fargo/TheBigLebowski).
I think a good approach for creating the story is to take GF's world and mix it with a classic story/fable and expand/brain-storm on that idea till we reach somewhere.

These are great ideas, and I would see a GF fan game absolutely like that. But I think that the project here is dead (well, never born, actually).

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Originally Posted by Jon N/A (Post 2795485)
@N3mo: I love your style! It's like a hybrid of Saul Bass and the classic Pink Panther toons + Mif2000 [mif2000.blogspot.com] [gameletgame.blogspot.com]. I'm gonna follow your blog. Why don't you post your art and design on DeviantArt?

Thank you very much, you are so kind! And thank you for linking that artist, it's great inspiration. I'm here anyway, I'm going to post some Grim Fandango poster in the near future! :)

ThunderPeel2001 11-19-2011 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by N3mo (Post 2795652)
Good luck with that! And if there is a little something I can do for it, PM me!

Don't be afraid to get in touch if you have time and energy to spare!

Jon N/A 11-24-2011 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by N3mo
These are great ideas, and I would see a GF fan game absolutely like that. But I think that the project here is dead (well, never born, actually).

Sorry to reply late N3mo.
Well, I'd like to start one!
I'm going to analyse Grim Fandango and understand what made it special. I'm gonna observe Grim Fandango, Follow Grim Fandango, Walk with Grim Fandango, See through Grim Fandango and finally, become Grim Fandango!
Then I'm gonna try to merge it with a classic novel/story/fable for brainstorming purposes and see what I can come up with.
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Originally Posted by N3mo
Good luck with that! And if there is a little something I can do for it, PM me!

Thanks! Your talents can be of great help recreating some of background's textures! As ThunderPeel said the post above,
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Originally Posted by ThunderPeel2001
Don't be afraid to get in touch if you have time and energy to spare!

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Originally Posted by N3mo
Thank you very much, you are so kind! And thank you for linking that artist, it's great inspiration. I'm here anyway, I'm going to post some Grim Fandango poster in the near future!

You're very welcome!
*looks at the DeviantArt page and is shoced after seeing N3mo's avatar*
Wow! Unbelivable! I was following you on G+ earlier without knowing you! You +1'd my comment on the Tetris comic you posted! So you're the creator of this page! [https://plus.google.com/u/0/113706064247578443528]
Heh, "Small world"! This is my profile on Deviant Art [http://jonnotavailable.deviantart.com/]
Looking forward for the GF posters! The original was ... not very impressive ...

N3mo 11-25-2011 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jon N/A (Post 2796262)
Sorry to reply late N3mo.
Well, I'd like to start one!
I'm going to analyse Grim Fandango and understand what made it special. I'm gonna observe Grim Fandango, Follow Grim Fandango, Walk with Grim Fandango, See through Grim Fandango and finally, become Grim Fandango!
Then I'm gonna try to merge it with a classic novel/story/fable for brainstorming purposes and see what I can come up with.

With a solid project, I will surely help you. I love this game. If you need to truly understand it, read the originale puzzle document (if you already haven't done yet). For anthing well-designed, I'm IN!

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Originally Posted by Jon N/A (Post 2796262)
You're very welcome!
*looks at the DeviantArt page and is shoced after seeing N3mo's avatar*
Wow! Unbelivable! I was following you on G+ earlier without knowing you! You +1'd my comment on the Tetris comic you posted! So you're the creator of this page! [https://plus.google.com/u/0/113706064247578443528]
Heh, "Small world"! This is my profile on Deviant Art [http://jonnotavailable.deviantart.com/]
Looking forward for the GF posters! The original was ... not very impressive ...

Oh wow. It's a small world indeed :) Yes, that Google+ page is mine, as well as the Facebook page. I already told I was a fanatic..

Jon N/A 11-25-2011 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by N3mo
If you need to truly understand it, read the originale puzzle document (if you already haven't done yet)

Oh yeah, Thanks for reminding me to read that! I got it a while back and forgot about it ...
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Originally Posted by N3mo
For anthing well-designed, I'm IN!

Cool! I'll look forward to working with ya, If I get to design something good ...
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Originally Posted by N3mo
I already told I was a fanatic..

Heh! I like the page's Icon. After seeing your avatar and blog here I kinda suspected you might be the owner of that page :)

N3mo 11-26-2011 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon N/A (Post 2796289)
Cool! I'll look forward to working with ya, If I get to design something good ...

Uh no, I didn't mean to be arrogant, it's just my questionable english :)
Anyway, I'd love to work in a Grim-related project, so let's do something! :)

jermy721 11-26-2011 04:08 PM

I have an idea for the story. The main character of the game is seeking revenge for something that happened to him when he was living.

Jon N/A 12-01-2011 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by N3mo (Post 2796374)
Uh no, I didn't mean to be arrogant, it's just my questionable english :)

No! No no no, It's a double-misunderstanding! I didn't mean to seem as if I thought you were arrogant. I honestley hoped for the fan game to turn out well made.
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Originally Posted by N3mo (Post 2796374)
Anyway, I'd love to work in a Grim-related project, so let's do something! :)

Yeah! Let's do it! Do you happen to use Dropbox? We can share a folder using that service.
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Originally Posted by jermy721 (Post 2796388)
I have an idea for the story. The main character of the game is seeking revenge for something that happened to him when he was living.

That's a good story arc to consider, But before writing the plot, I'd like to understand truly what makes Grim Fadango, Grim Fandango. I'd like to analyse the game 1st.
But, I'm not saying that brainstorming [like you did Jeremy] is prohibited! Not at all. In fact, It's very desired and welcome. but I don't like to start doing so. I want to analyse the game 1st.
One thing, Do you still want to direct this project? Or are you willing to work with my fan project? Because, I'd like to make something new with the setting and atmosphere of Grim Fandango. I lke storys with neutral or bad endings and dark-comedy's. And you may not like that.

N3mo 12-01-2011 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jon N/A (Post 2796812)
Yeah! Let's do it! Do you happen to use Dropbox? We can share a folder using that service.

Let's do this!
I don't use Dropbox, I know it's a useful tool, but It's a software.
Considering that I use multiple laptops during the days, I would find more helpful to use GoogleDocs, where you can deposit files and documents, and even communicate (with notes or chatting) with others members of the project upon every single file; all on a browser (1GB is the limit).
But I'm open to everything. Really. I'm excited.

Jon N/A 12-01-2011 04:37 PM

Google Docs is good too ... I've never worked with it before ... Sure, I'll try it to see if it's good enough and if it works well with my 230 kB/s connection ...

jermy721 12-02-2011 12:55 AM

I don't really want to spend to much time developing the story. To many fan games get cancled because they spend to much time trying to make a big complex story. By the time proggraming begins every gets tired of the game and abandons it
I really want this game to be made

N3mo 12-02-2011 07:35 AM

^ Jermy721, we think that we will put together some ideas after a pretty careful analysis of the original game. This is for the sole purpose of creating a fan-game that really is a credit to the work we want to celebrate; and to give something more apart from the title "Grim Fandango".
At least for me and JonN/A, we do not want to rush. This doesn't mean we will spend years around the initial preparation, but we agree that this is a critical phase in a project like this.
We too want this game to be made, but desire is not enough.

Anyway, for anyone interested, something is moving :)

ThunderPeel2001 12-04-2011 03:15 PM

Hey N3mo! I just noticed that I missed your message in the Residual thread. No idea why that happened. I sent you a PM and replied to your message in the thread itself. I hope you can help out, I'm really impressed by what I've seen of your work!

Thanks,
- Johnny


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