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darth-ackbar 12-27-2011 02:24 PM

KotOR III: The Search For Revan
 
Hi guys, I'm announcing my new mod for TSL, which essentially creates a new game, KotOR 3. So I'm going to give a quick story outline and you can tell me what you think.

15 years after the events of TSL, the republic is in disarray, a small band of sith are striking from beyond the unknown regions, destroying space stations and colonies the republic has worked so hard to rebuild. On Nar Shaadaa, a Jedi outcast, master Kotho'Epp, believes that these sith have a connection to Revan, and answers the Jedi order desperately seek lie with him. The problem is, he and his two apprentices are stuck as refugees on Nar Shaadaa...

Well what do you think, I have a lot more storyline but I don't want to give anything away just yet.

If you have any questions, or are interested in helping just write in this thread, or PM me.

Canderis 12-27-2011 02:46 PM

http://www.lucasforums.com/showthrea...wpost&t=207884

Gorgod 12-27-2011 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canderis (Post 2799668)

^ This.

Considering this is literally your first post and you just joined today, I have absolutely no idea what your modding capabilities are, therefore I am assuming that this is wayyy too ambitious. However, I've been proven wrong more than once. ;)

Zhaboka 12-27-2011 03:44 PM

This will be the sixth or seventh new TC this year, five or six of which have failed, one or two of which are still chugging along. Good luck, you're gonna need it.

Canderis 12-27-2011 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zhaboka (Post 2799679)
This will be the sixth or seventh new TC this year, five or six of which have failed, one or two of which are still chugging along. Good luck, you're gonna need it.

There are 3 that are moving at all. All the others died quickly...

Zhaboka 12-27-2011 04:55 PM

...like crack babies.

Too soon?

Marius Fett 12-27-2011 06:32 PM

..tasteful

darth-ackbar 12-28-2011 06:19 AM

To everyone who thinks this is too ambitious, I totally understand your pessimism and I know this is a huge undertaking but I do have past experience modding and even making games from scratch. I believe I am capable of doing this.

I have already planned out about 80% of the story and have a good idea about where I'm going to go with this project. I know it will take more than this post to reassure you but I will be releasing bits of the storyline over the next few days.

Again, if anyone is interested in helping, it would be helpful.

Canderis, I have read that previously and I think that I have covered those points in my plan. Thanks for pointing that out though.

SOME MORE INFO:

Current List Of Planets:

Nar Shaddaa
Nal Hutta
Sleheyron
Dantooine
Taris
Onderon
Korriban
Lehon
Dromund Kaas
Nathema

Some Party Members:

Kotho'Epp: An outcast in the Jedi order, Kotho'Epp sought refuge on Nar Shaddaa after the great Jedi purge. *There he found two orphaned siblings strong in the force and trained them. Now his two apprentices, Ceedra Mailra and your character, regard him as both a master and a friend.
*
Ceedra Malira: Ceedra has trained alongside you your entire life, although Kotho'Epp decided to keep the fact you are related to himself, you both feel that there is a bond between you, which gives strength to you both.
*
Kaila Atis: This woman works as a freelance mercenary, and she is known across the galaxy for her impeccable covert skills and her ownership of the fastest ship in the galaxy, the Ebon Hawk.*

Yaru Nesh: This duros has worked as technician for Vella the hutt for most of his life, and his father before him. When Vella's palace is overthrown, he becomes one of the few survivors. Although not known for his loyalty, he is a man of his word and serves as a mechanic aboard the Ebon Hawk, he's not bad with a blaster either.*

Main Characters:

Bastila Shan: A member of the Jedi high council, and a secret connection to Revan, Bastila could be valuable on the right side...

Zax: Remember the hutt from the Taris dueling ring, turns out he survived Malak's attack and he's waiting on Taris to spill the secrets on the Mysterious Stranger.*

Mandalore: Canderous has heard about your search for Revan and he's eager to know how your doing. Although he doesn't show his face until the end, he's keeping tabs on you through a fellow mandalorian,.

Master Vandar: The abandoned academy on Dantooine holds many secrets, including Vandar's holocron.*

Scorge 12-28-2011 10:33 AM

Sounds interesting, I could help with some skinning if you want.

Zhaboka 12-28-2011 11:24 AM

My pessimism remains, but if you ever get to the VO stage of all this I'm happy to voice. :D

LDR 12-28-2011 11:53 AM

My pessimism remains as well, but I hope for good luck on your part!

darth-ackbar 12-28-2011 12:07 PM

MrObiWan, when I get to skinning models (next week probably) I'll be grateful for any help you can give as I'm more of a story and programming person.

Zhaboka, it will likely be a while before I get to VO's but if your still interested then you can be first in line:)

UltimateHK47 12-28-2011 01:02 PM

i wouldn't mind helping around. Not too much as im working on a story conversion with someone but a bhit of scripting and dialouge writng wouldn't hurt. Id do some skins, not modules but items and you could put them in game. Good luck! :)

PS:When i have a job pm me with the details and ill try to do it. Take not im not very experianced so i wont be able to do alot of the hard stuff :)

darth-ackbar 12-28-2011 01:34 PM

DarthJangoWeasley, thanks for the interest, I'll get back to you if I need help with anything

EDIT: @mimartin, sorry about that will do in the future

mimartin 12-28-2011 01:38 PM

Please keep it on topic, everyone made their point about their feeling about the posters ability to pull off such an all encompassing mod. Now either keep it on topic or stop posting here anything else is merely a waste of your time and darth-ackbar time.

@darth-ackbar please use the edit button (right lower side of you post in gold “you may: edit…” instead of double or triple posting.

Thanks all

LDR 12-28-2011 02:23 PM

If you need any help with story, DLGs revised for grammar errors, or some tips on making modules and skins, feel free to let me know!

Again, I wish you best of luck. :D

darth-ackbar 12-28-2011 02:49 PM

@LordDeathRay, do you know how to edit the model files for areas. I have edited item models before but I'm having trouble working out how to do this with areas. Also, is it possible to import modules from K1 into TSL?

Zhaboka 12-28-2011 02:52 PM

If only...

Porting from K1 to TSL is strictly prohibited here at LucasForums, I believe. However, many of the K1 modules you might want to use may already be somewhere in TSL's game files.

Snard 12-28-2011 03:18 PM

I could help with skinning and DLG editing. There are a few people here on LF that can vouch for me and my skinning skills.

Darth InSidious 12-28-2011 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zhaboka (Post 2799805)
If only...

Porting from K1 to TSL is strictly prohibited here at LucasForums, I believe. However, many of the K1 modules you might want to use may already be somewhere in TSL's game files.

Not just at LF. It's a general prohibition which applies to all KotOR modding.

Also, very few if any modules from KotOR I were ported into KotOR II in tact. I can't think of any, in fact. The only areas based on KotOR I areas which are in TSL are:

Dantooine/Khoonda modules
Korriban - Valley of the Dark Lords, Cave, and Academy
Dxun - "Hidden Cache" interior.

Snard 12-28-2011 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darth-ackbar (Post 2799804)
@LordDeathRay, do you know how to edit the model files for areas. I have edited item models before but I'm having trouble working out how to do this with areas. Also, is it possible to import modules from K1 into TSL?

You probably won't even have to do this. There are a lot of skilled modellers on LF who might be willing to help you by creating new modules. You could also learn and try to do it yourself.

Zhaboka 12-28-2011 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth InSidious (Post 2799821)
Also, very few if any modules from KotOR I were ported into KotOR II in tact. I can't think of any, in fact. The only areas based on KotOR I areas which are in TSL are:

Dantooine/Khoonda modules
Korriban - Valley of the Dark Lords, Cave, and Academy
Dxun - "Hidden Cache" interior.

Sorry, this is just a smidge off-topic, but where in K1 was the Cache Interior?

Toasty Fresh 12-29-2011 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zhaboka (Post 2799874)
Sorry, this is just a smidge off-topic, but where in K1 was the Cache Interior?

I could be wrong but I think it's the Cantina on Tatooine.

Snard 12-29-2011 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toasty Fresh (Post 2799876)
I could be wrong but I think it's the Cantina on Tatooine.

Yeah I think thats it, but with the bar and stage removed.

darth-ackbar 12-29-2011 04:45 AM

SOME MORE INFO:

Party Members:

Dustil Onasi: Dustil has reverted to his dark side ways, and is terrorizing Sleheyron city. Having already been turned to the light side, only to revert back, Dustil will be hard to recruit. He has much the same personality as what you see in K1, but his appearance is much older and looks a bit more like Carth.*

HK-47: Unlike in TSL, HK is more than happy to reveal secrets about Revan when you meet him. It seems that ten years of solitary confinement have taken their toll. HK is now more crazed than he was in previous games (if that's even possible). Although his assassination protocols are still in working order.*

Jek: Jek is a mandalorian, he tends to think of his fellow crew members as a lesser species and himself as mandalore. He has a dark humor and gets along with HK very well. Given enough time, he starts to warm to you and will eventually give you the means to talk to mandalore.*

Builder Droid: The very same gatekeeper that Revan found 20 years earlier, this droid is more than willing to join you. This guy packs a serious punch, as you will remember from the other droids in the ancient ruins. He also knows things about Revan and the Infinite Empire which could prove vital in your search...

The 9th party member I will keep secret, at least until nearer the release date.*

IMPORTANT:*
I'm giving everyone the opportunity to have their character in the game.*

I'm holding a competition for best designed character, the winner will have their character as the 10th party member. All I need to know is the name, gender, species and a short bio of your character. If you win, we can discuss your character in more detail.*

REMEMBER: Your character must be a species already in TSL, and your character must not have been a party member in either of the previous games.*

PM me your entries, winner will be picked: 12th January, good luck.*

Toasty Fresh 12-29-2011 05:05 AM

I'm still skeptical about this, but are you planning on adhering to canon with this storyline?

darth-ackbar 12-29-2011 07:00 AM

I will be adhering to all canonical sources that I know about in the story. However, if I add something that is not in keeping with canon, please tell me so I can research and rectify if nesecary. One of my major goals is to create a story that does not interfere with canon in the way that many TC mods out there seem to do

Dak Drexl 12-29-2011 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snard (Post 2799839)
You could also learn and try to do it yourself.

This :lol:

Good luck with this thing anyway :)

Marius Fett 12-29-2011 04:18 PM

To add to what DI said, if you look at the Cantina on Onderon, that area is also based on the Taris Cantina's from KotOR I.

The layout is exactly the same, just with a new texture job. :)

Darth InSidious 12-29-2011 04:21 PM

^Not quite. The Onderon cantina has one room fewer than the Taris cantinas, as I recall. :)

Slstoev 12-29-2011 07:00 PM

Well, you can't count the arena though I think. That's a separate area on the same map.

Snard 12-30-2011 08:09 AM

I am curious as to how you will get VO's for these returning characters. Unless you can get the same voice actors(which is highly unlikely), or have people who can perfectly mimick their voices, then you might want to rethink the set of characters in the game.

Darth InSidious 12-30-2011 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slstoev (Post 2799941)
Well, you can't count the arena though I think. That's a separate area on the same map.

I wasn't including the arena. The Taris cantina, though, has a circular 'hub' area, with four rooms off it; the Onderon cantina has only three rooms off it, as I recall.

Marius Fett 12-30-2011 08:43 AM

^I've got a feeling you may be correct, DI.

I don't think the big square room where the Duel Organizer/Bounty Hunter Office are in KotOR is in the TSL version of the cantina. :)

UltimateHK47 12-30-2011 11:01 AM

NAME: Erin
FACTION: Sand People
GENDER: Male
BIO: A young warrior for the Sand People, Erin's clan were wiped out by the sith. Joining you to seek revenge, he is a hateful warrior who is strong and can rip enemies apart with his moddified gaffi stick. His sidequest is that while on a planet (any), rumer has it it is a sand person. By investigating and talking (you can only find out his clan was wiped out by talking to him), you find his father, and you get the chance to redeem Erin and make him good or ditch Erin and get another party member? (last part is just an idea)

DJW

EDIT: NAME FROM URIN :), to ERIN

LDR 12-30-2011 11:30 AM

Umm, you know you have to PM him, right?

Snard 12-30-2011 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthJango/Weasley (Post 2799990)
NAME: Urin

Uh, take a look at the name again. Take your time.

Scorge 12-30-2011 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snard (Post 2800002)
Uh, take a look at the name again. Take your time.

Snard, you make me laugh. But I agree, "Urin" doesn't sound appropriate to a Star Wars name. But we don't have rules for imagination. But seriously, take a look at the name again. And its also very creative that you are using the Sand People species, as most people do not use that.

Fallen Guardian 12-30-2011 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snard (Post 2800002)
Uh, take a look at the name again. Take your time.

Maybe he should make it Urrihn? And the h is silent? I really didn't realize it looked like urine until you pointed it out Snard. I was pronouncing it as Err-in.

But anyway, I wish you luck with your project darth-ackbar.

darth-ackbar 12-31-2011 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthJango/Weasley (Post 2799990)
NAME: Urin
FACTION: Sand People
GENDER: Male
BIO: A young warrior for the Sand People, Urin's clan were wiped out by the sith. Joining you to seek revenge, he is a hateful warrior who is strong and can rip enemies apart with his moddified gaffi stick. His sidequest is that while on a planet (any), rumer has it it is a sand person. By investigating and talking (you can only find out his clan was wiped out by talking to him), you find his father, and you get the chance to redeem Urin and make him good or ditch Urin and get another party member? (last part is just an idea)

DJW

DJW, Would you mind PM-ing me please, just makes it easier if i have all the entries in the same place when I judge.

Can everyone please stop saying that his character has a bad name, that's the name he chose and i don't have a problem with it, however if you want to change it DJW, now is the time :)

Quote:

I am curious as to how you will get VO's for these returning characters. Unless you can get the same voice actors(which is highly unlikely), or have people who can perfectly mimick their voices, then you might want to rethink the set of characters in the game.
Yes i'm currently unsure about that, however I only have about four characters that use human VO's, and i'm not worried about HK because I can edit his dialogue in goldwave. For the others, if anyone can do a good Bastila, Canderous, Vandar or Dustil please contact me!


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