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Darth_Tempust 02-18-2013 09:32 AM

Improved Bastila Head
 
I know there was already an improved texture (or mesh? not sure), but here's my take.

We all know what the stock head looks like, so I won't bother posting a pic. WIP using the front cover art as a ref:

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/3861/piczn.th.jpg

50% self-illum in Max.

VarsityPuppet 02-18-2013 01:45 PM

Side by side comparison wouldn't hurt.

Sam Spain 02-18-2013 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CptPriceless (Post 2828316)
Well it definitely looks smoother, but it... I don't know, something about the model makes it seem not "Bastila-like." Can't put my finger on it... In any case, the model itself is terrific.

Looks like Bastila to me.

Great work!

battle111 02-19-2013 04:02 AM

wow it looks totaly cool !!!! good work!!

Darth_Tempust 02-19-2013 04:18 AM

Haven't added any tris, just vert shifting with UVW tweaks. I think I made her a bit too 'sandra bullock', so I'll rework it.

Sith Holocron 02-19-2013 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth_Tempust (Post 2828338)
Haven't added any tris, just vert shifting with UVW tweaks. I think I made her a bit too 'sandra bullock', so I'll rework it.

Hold onto that original version ... as I think I'd like to have it!

Canderis 02-19-2013 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sith Holocron (Post 2828339)
Hold onto that original version ... as I think I'd like to have it!

^^^

Dak Drexl 02-19-2013 09:16 PM

Yeah great job so far, I think it's a huge improvement. I always thought the Bastila on the game cover looked way better than the in-game one, so thanks for bridging the gap!

Looking forward to some updates.

Darth_Tempust 02-19-2013 10:31 PM

For something different, I could perhaps make a SWTOR version of bastila:

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/707/bastilator.png

She is a Master in that holocron so I'll have to make her younger and with her KOTOR hairstyle.

Fallen Guardian 02-19-2013 10:47 PM

Meh, I never really liked any of the KotOR characters adaptations into TOR.

Sith Holocron 02-20-2013 01:17 AM

If you're looking to go for a different style, perhaps you should be looking at the concept art for Bastila.

http://www.rpgfan.com/pics/starwars-...box/art-16.jpg

or base it on the voice actress for Bastila, Jennifer Hale. (Apparently that's how they came up with what's in the game.)

But I still want the one you have in your original post though.

Darth_Tempust 02-20-2013 03:49 AM

Tweaked UVWs, fixed the topology a bit, added new eye & eyelid meshes:

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/1893/picdt.th.jpg

Made her a tad more asian.

milestails 02-21-2013 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth_Tempust (Post 2828393)
Tweaked UVWs, fixed the topology a bit, added new eye & eyelid meshes:

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/1893/picdt.th.jpg

Made her a tad more asian.


I like this version a lot. Would definitely download and use right away.

Shem 02-21-2013 11:49 PM

It's fun to sometimes look through threads like these and see what some of you guys are up to. Keep the spirit alive! :D

Darth_Tempust 02-22-2013 03:35 AM

If you guys like it now, wait until I'm done. :D

Darth_Tempust 02-26-2013 08:43 AM

My Reference:

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3...tor1024.th.jpg

Original Head:

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/6683/oldfmv.th.png

Improved Head:

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/8381/picoa.th.jpg


Both with 50% self-illum.

Canderis 02-26-2013 06:57 PM

Awesome. She looks like such less of a .... mean person than before.

Bob Saget 02-26-2013 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Canderis (Post 2828674)
Awesome. She looks like such less of a .... mean person than before.


Now now, that may not be a bad thing.

Zhaboka 02-26-2013 09:01 PM

Awesome work! Definitely an improvement, yet still looks like Bastila... well played.

Darth_Tempust 02-26-2013 09:35 PM

Pretty good for UVW fixing & vert moving/adding. Now need to get it ingame. :P


Btw I was going to put SWTOR's Bastila head in KOTOR, but the model gets grabbed with no texture coords & ill-captured normal maps so I abandoned that idea. :(

Darth_Tempust 02-27-2013 10:57 AM

Ingame:

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/4...3022800006.jpg

Still need to tweak the auroraflex, and finish weighting it.

Canderis 02-27-2013 04:50 PM

Wow! Amazing! Might be a nice idea to do her body model too.

Darth_Tempust 02-28-2013 08:33 AM

Nothings really 'that' wrong with the body, plus it would just get swapped out for robes or armor ingame lol.

Improved head is ingame & weighted. Currently mucking around with the auroraflex which is a slow painfull process of tweaking, compiling, headfixing and then testing ingame lol.

Disturbed205 02-28-2013 11:12 AM

Something looks up with the nose in the ingame picture that looks abnormal, seems different from the render.

redrob41 02-28-2013 02:56 PM

Excellent work; the lips, nostrils, eyes and hair all look much more believable now, while staying true to her original. The only thing that seems off to me, and it's only personal preference, is that the slope of the bridge of her nose is too straight. The slight ski jump up turn of her original nose helps give her a youthful cuteness that we've all known for so long. The straight nose looks a little generic to me. She doesn't quite look like Bastila any more.

Now, it's your mod, so release it the way you want her to look. I'd still download it, and enjoy it :D

Darth_Tempust 02-28-2013 09:42 PM

Thanks for the crits on the nose. I made the tip a little more rounded and gave the profile a small bend inwards:

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/7...3030100009.jpg

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/4...3030100011.jpg

Got the auroraflex sorted with no clipping issues.

milestails 02-28-2013 10:02 PM

Must have

JuniorModder 02-28-2013 11:07 PM

I would recommend making her lips and cheeks a little bit redder and adding some purple/blue tones to her eyelids. Then it would be perfection. ;)

~JM

Darth_Tempust 03-01-2013 04:39 AM

Here's my release candidate:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/o45nq2

LORD SPARTAN 03-01-2013 06:18 PM

Great work so far, I really like where it's going. I've tried the beta and beside the dark lighting of the model, it's great to look at it.

Darth_Tempust 03-01-2013 06:23 PM

Which areas are dark?

Sith Holocron 03-01-2013 07:33 PM

Though I downloaded your beta version, I was hoping for the "Sandra Bullock" version. As I can see little changed between your final version screenshots and the regular in-game Bastila, I probably won't be using it.

Does anyone else feel like we've had a "bait and switch" pulled on us?

LORD SPARTAN 03-01-2013 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth_Tempust (Post 2828823)
Which areas are dark?

I've tried to make pics in various locations, with different lighting.

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Fallen Guardian 03-01-2013 10:06 PM

It seems as though it looks fine in the sun (Tatooine), but it gets darker in darkish places. I remember Dak wrote this tutorial up a year or so ago, detailing how to fix those issues with a custom gun model. 2 post's below Dak's tutorial, Darth DeadMan posted a different way to fix the lighting issue, and said it also worked with character models. So I'd assume if you did what Darth DeadMan specified then everything would be normal.

Darth_Tempust 03-02-2013 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sith Holocron (Post 2828827)
Though I downloaded your beta version, I was hoping for the "Sandra Bullock" version. As I can see little changed between your final version screenshots and the regular in-game Bastila, I probably won't be using it.

Does anyone else feel like we've had a "bait and switch" pulled on us?

I posted that I was making an improved head based off of the cover art. If this head is not to your liking, then by all means don't download it but don't try to stir things up and say that there has been a "bait and switch" pulled here.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallen Guardian (Post 2828830)
It seems as though it looks fine in the sun (Tatooine), but it gets darker in darkish places. I remember Dak wrote this tutorial up a year or so ago, detailing how to fix those issues with a custom gun model. 2 post's below Dak's tutorial, Darth DeadMan posted a different way to fix the lighting issue, and said it also worked with character models. So I'd assume if you did what Darth DeadMan specified then everything would be normal.

I'm still new at KOTOR modding, I'll have a looksee at the tutorial thanks. :D

Also thanks for those screenshots LORD SPARTAN, big help. :)

Zhaboka 03-02-2013 02:34 AM

Her eyes seem kinda big and off-center of each other. If that makes any sense. That's my one and only complaint. Great, great work!

Darth_Tempust 03-02-2013 03:27 AM

Keep the crits coming guys, it'll only make this better. :D

Darth_Tempust 03-02-2013 08:43 AM

Second release candidate:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/jtrnxc

Fixes:

- Texture darkness in non-lit areas is fixed
- Added a fix for Bastila's standard clothes having some alpha when it shouldn't
- Moved the eyes mesh a little bit back so there's no clipping
- Tweaked eyes texture coords

LORD SPARTAN 03-02-2013 01:38 PM

Again with different lighting

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Don't give up, it's close very close.

Canderis 03-02-2013 01:49 PM

Its amazing how much better she looks compared to the others. Nice work!


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