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Sabretooth 06-11-2013 04:43 AM

The Outlander Club Console War Poll
 
Finally, it's E3. We have all the data. We have all the boxes. We have all the exclusives and wavings of phallic objects and jeering and cheering. We know what the consoles are and what they look like. What the smell like. One of them smells like victory. Tell us which.

Vote for the one console that you are most likely to buy. If you plan on buying multiple, vote for the one you value more (or are more excited for). Don't hold back, people! We want nothing but blood and guts in this thread! BLOOD AND GUUUUUTS!

Red Hessian 06-11-2013 05:46 AM

Ze glorious PC Gaming Master Race bows to no one! o_Q

But I must say I'm glad that Sony mopped the floor with Microsoft this time.

JesusIsGonnaOwnSatan 06-11-2013 06:29 AM

Am masterrace, but am willing to see how the rabble lives with a PS3. Closest thing on that list was a PS4, so.. yeah, chose that.

DarthParametric 06-11-2013 08:44 AM

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Lynk Former 06-11-2013 09:44 AM

I've already bought myself a Wii U and already have myself a capable gaming PC, so PS4 is next. Because as superior as you want to think you are, you can't play every great game on PC :xp:

Alexrd 06-11-2013 09:59 AM

PC master race, although I loved Sony mocking at Microsoft.

DarthParametric 06-11-2013 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Lynk Former (Post 2833808)
you can't play every great game on PC

Sure you can. You just need to wait until someone makes the appropriate emulator.

Taak Farst 06-11-2013 11:46 AM

while I am PC master race, I tend to own a console either way. And all I can say is wow, because Sony have beaten, nay, destroyed Microsoft in the next console war before it has even begun. Any game on Xbox One I want is either coming to 360, PC or going to PS4 anyway. I have no reason to pick Xbox One over PS4, and I will gladly give Sony my money, and at this point I'd give them the remaining 90 price difference for the very privilege of BUYING the PS4 over the Xbox One.

Lynk Former 06-11-2013 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthParametric (Post 2833813)
Sure you can. You just need to wait until someone makes the appropriate emulator.

Piracy isn't a legitimate option.

DarthParametric 06-11-2013 01:52 PM

Who said anything about piracy?

Astor 06-11-2013 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poll
I believe in Dreamcast 2.

Sega aren't out of this yet...

I'll be buying a PS4, most likely. ::

L0ki194 06-11-2013 03:01 PM

*sigh* I honestly don't know what to do. I always have had an xbox simply for Halo, but... Xbox One killed it for me. For now, I'm sticking with my Xbox 360, but I'm either gonna get a PS4, or upgrade the living crap out of my computer.... seriously, It's like someone took a good Laptop and stuffed it into a compact Desktop case....
BUT I do agree that Sony beat the crap outta Microsoft on Monday.

Alexrd 06-11-2013 05:57 PM

On other news, that new 360 model is almost perfect for me. :)

Lynk Former 06-12-2013 05:38 AM

Go for it... for me, I'm hesitant to buy any more stuff on my 360 since I no longer want to support Microsoft with anything they do on Xbox.

Taak Farst 06-12-2013 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Lynk Former (Post 2833887)
Go for it... for me, I'm hesitant to buy any more stuff on my 360 since I no longer want to support Microsoft with anything they do on Xbox.

This is pretty much my mindset. I'm a very 'I must be thorough' kind of gamer which makes me want to buy any of my xbox games for my ps3 so that I can catch up with them, in preparation for the ps4, but I am not touching another 360 title (other than Fable: Anniversary)

GeneralPloKoon 06-14-2013 10:42 PM

Hail PlayStation! The PS4 might make my happiness level go OVER 9000!!!!

igyman 07-16-2013 09:23 AM

PC gaming for the win! So, no consoles for me, thanks. Most worthwhile games will end up on the PC anyway, as for those that don't, well though luck for them, because I'm not willing to spend money on a console for just those few games (or worse, just that one game).

Also, as DP said, emulators, which have nothing to do with piracy (which is, btw, a bigger problem on the consoles, as most console versions appear on torrent sites days before their official release).

Lynk Former 07-16-2013 04:41 PM

Emulators have nothing to do with piracy? Well, yeah, if you want to go into the legal gray area bit about the emulators THEMSELVES. You can download all of the emulators you want and it's all legal... the emulators ONLY. As soon as you download the games you never owned or paid for... BZZZT piracy. Let's not pretend it's not.

As for piracy as a problem, it's about evenly spread everywhere, it's not a "it's more on consoles" thing... if people want it, it'll be pirated, consoles, PC, whatever. It's dead simple to find a pirated version of any game, it's not like there's a secret society preventing PC games from being pirated just so PC gamers can continue to feel some kind of false sense of superiority XD ...that would be pretty cool though, some kind of PC gamer illuminaty deal.

I also laugh a little at the thought of missing out on games because it's not worth the price.Jeez, if I had that mind set, I wouldn't have bought a second hand PS2 for 50AUD and a tonne of really cheap PS2 games which were all exclusive must play titles (most of them NEW). I would have missed out on so much which I had gotten so easily. Of course, I guess if you didn't care, you cuold pirate all of that stuff and then try to justify it and say it's not actually piracy because those companies wouldn't have made money off of you anyway...



Back to the topic though... I'm still leaning toward PS4 as my multiplatform console of choice... I still don't like the idea of the XBO watching me constantly with Kinect.

igyman 07-16-2013 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lynk Former (Post 2835460)
Emulators have nothing to do with piracy? Well, yeah, if you want to go into the legal gray area bit about the emulators THEMSELVES. You can download all of the emulators you want and it's all legal... the emulators ONLY. As soon as you download the games you never owned or paid for... BZZZT piracy. Let's not pretend it's not.

Err, what makes you think you have to download a game ilegally in order to play it with an emulator!?

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Originally Posted by Lynk Former (Post 2835460)
if people want it, it'll be pirated, consoles, PC, whatever.

True. Never said otherwise. I was simply commenting on the often used "piracy" excuse against PC gaming.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynk Former (Post 2835460)
I also laugh a little at the thought of missing out on games because it's not worth the price.Jeez, if I had that mind set, I wouldn't have bought a second hand PS2 for 50AUD and a tonne of really cheap PS2 games which were all exclusive must play titles (most of them NEW). I would have missed out on so much which I had gotten so easily. Of course, I guess if you didn't care, you cuold pirate all of that stuff and then try to justify it and say it's not actually piracy because those companies wouldn't have made money off of you anyway...

Well, first off a "must play" is a rather subjective qualification - what you consider a must play, might not be considered as such by others and vice versa.

Secondly, different people, different parts of the world, different living, financial (and other) conditions and mindsets - meaning not all of us have enough to spend on games on a regular basis, or are willing to spend much of what we do have on games on a regular basis. And I laugh a little at the mindset of "I just can't miss out on that game!" and especially at the "I have to have it now and will even spend money on a specific platform just so I can play that game." If I thought like that, I would have wasted around 400 euros on an xBox 360 and another 60+ on Mortal Kombat (and DLCs) just so I could play it on release day. Thankfully, I never did that and I can still play the complete game on my platform of choice and for less money at that.

Lynk Former 07-16-2013 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by igyman (Post 2835466)
Err, what makes you think you have to download a game ilegally in order to play it with an emulator!?

Is there a way for me to play console games using the original discs/carts that I bought? Tell me how, I've only assumed you could only get illegally obtained ROMs and ISOs to work with emulators, but if there's a way for me to insert my legit copy of The Last of Us into my PC BD drive and play it, I'm all for that... so where do I go, how do I make this happen? Doesn't have to be PS3, you seem to know about this more than I do, I'd like to know what you know so that I can have a backup plan in case my one or more of my consoles die.





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True. Never said otherwise. I was simply commenting on the often used "piracy" excuse against PC gaming.
You mean the people who bitch about developers making more games on consoles than on PC? You know, this is reminds me of Nintendo gamers complaining about third party developers not making games for Nintendo systems and instead making them for competing companies. The reason for both of these things is pretty simple... developers make games for platforms that have the majority of the audience that would like to buy their games to begin with. If a developer doesn't want to make a game for a Nintendo system or for PC, it's because they feel that there isn't an audience for them on that platform to justify that game being made.

However, this should be absolutely no problem for PC with the PS4/XBO since their architecture is the closest to PCs as it's ever been. Games that aren't bought or natural exclusives are going to be easily available on PS4, XBO and PC with very little fuss.



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Well, first off a "must play" is a rather subjective qualification - what you consider a must play, might not be considered as such by others and vice versa.

Secondly, different people, different parts of the world, different living, financial (and other) conditions and mindsets - meaning not all of us have enough to spend on games on a regular basis, or are willing to spend much of what we do have on games on a regular basis. And I laugh a little at the mindset of "I just can't miss out on that game!" and especially at the "I have to have it now and will even spend money on a specific platform just so I can play that game." If I thought like that, I would have wasted around 400 euros on an xBox 360 and another 60+ on Mortal Kombat (and DLCs) just so I could play it on release day. Thankfully, I never did that and I can still play the complete game on my platform of choice and for less money at that.
That's the other extreme... but I already mentioned that you can wait for prices to drop to a reasonable amount and then buy those "must have" games... I mean, you make it sound like consoles and their games stay at full launch price forever and that's the ONLY option any one has.

Sith Sizzle 07-17-2013 01:49 AM

PC gaming is hands down the best in my opinion, but it's only as good as the amount of money you put into your system, unlike with consoles where everyone has the same frame rate and graphics. Although if I had to choose between the PS4 and the Xbox One I'd choose the PS4. I don't feel like blabbering on about why, but for me there's not a single reason why I'd want an Xbox, yet there's plenty for the Playstation. The only exception is the Halo franchise. :P

igyman 07-17-2013 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Lynk Former (Post 2835469)
Is there a way for me to play console games using the original discs/carts that I bought? Tell me how, I've only assumed you could only get illegally obtained ROMs and ISOs to work with emulators, but if there's a way for me to insert my legit copy of The Last of Us into my PC BD drive and play it, I'm all for that... so where do I go, how do I make this happen? Doesn't have to be PS3, you seem to know about this more than I do, I'd like to know what you know so that I can have a backup plan in case my one or more of my consoles die.

Admittedly, I haven't fiddled around with any PS3 or xBox emulators, so to avoid talking out of my ass I'll limit this to the PS1 and PS2 emulators which do allow you to boot the game from your disc. They both, however, do require a console BIOS in order to run the games, which can be a bit of a gray area to obtain, I'll give you that. The games themselves, however, do not need to be obtained in any illegal looking fashion.

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Originally Posted by Lynk Former (Post 2835469)
However, this should be absolutely no problem for PC with the PS4/XBO since their architecture is the closest to PCs as it's ever been. Games that aren't bought or natural exclusives are going to be easily available on PS4, XBO and PC with very little fuss.

I hope so.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynk Former (Post 2835469)
That's the other extreme... but I already mentioned that you can wait for prices to drop to a reasonable amount and then buy those "must have" games... I mean, you make it sound like consoles and their games stay at full launch price forever and that's the ONLY option any one has.

I agree that waiting for a price drop is the way to go. But, even though the prices don't stay high forever, they do tend to stay at "full launch" level quite long, at least where I live. So again, depending on your part of the world, different prices and discount opportunities will or will not be available to you.

DarthParametric 07-17-2013 03:53 AM

On the subject of emulators, yes, some can play legitimate media. Optical-based media anyway. A bit difficult for cart-based consoles like the NES/SNES/Master System/Genesis (Megadrive) obviously.

But assuming you are playing legit copies of, say, Saturn or PS1 discs on an emulator, the issue of legality arises in the BIOS dumps that most emus require. Dolphin is interesting in that regard, as it doesn't seem to require any BIOS rom/s.

Lynk Former 07-17-2013 05:08 PM

@ igyman: Australia is absolutely TERRIBLE with video game prices. A full price PS3/360 game here is 100-110AUD (70-77 Euro) and they tend to stay that way for a long time. Believe me, I know EXACTLY what you mean... but I still stand by what I said. Wait and the prices will drop, sales will happen, etc... you may have to wait for a long time, but at least it WILL happen eventually. There's a lot of games I haven't bought because, while they're great games, I don't think they're worth the full price, so I've waited... waited for years in some cases to buy them.

Rogue15 07-18-2013 11:59 AM

sort of quitting to get into paintball when i get home.

mimartin 07-18-2013 12:11 PM

Kind of with Lynk...PC is my first choice, but I am not above buying a console if there is a must play game there. I bought my first XBox because of KotOR, I bought my 360 for Mass Effect. Sure I will buy one sooner or later, but it will not be because I want that Console, it will because I want to play that game...RIGHT THEN!

leXX 07-24-2013 04:04 PM

Might not even bother getting any of the new consoles, and this is the first time I've ever said that considering I've had pretty much every console since the Atari. Steam and The Humble Bundle seem more than adequate these days, but if I do it will be a PS4. I've only just realised how much I've been missing out on not being subscribed to Playstation Plus all this time, as I didn't realise it gave you so many games each month. Feel like a bit of a pratt tbh.

Sith Sizzle 07-24-2013 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by leXX (Post 2835787)
Might not even bother getting any of the new consoles, and this is the first time I've ever said that considering I've had pretty much every console since the Atari. Steam and The Humble Bundle seem more than adequate these days, but if I do it will be a PS4. I've only just realised how much I've been missing out on not being subscribed to Playstation Plus all this time, as I didn't realise it gave you so many games each month. Feel like a bit of a pratt tbh.

I think I will be doing the same thing you are - sticking with the PC.
I've always loved gaming on consoles. I like playing FPS/TPS and Action/Adventure games on consoles, but I've always liked playing RPG, RTS, and simulation games on PC better. However since Steam has been around, I'm becoming more of a PC gamer for all genres of games. They just give such great deals and since I've been gaming on PC more often I've come to realize that they are much better than consoles. When you buy a PC, you know that there will always be updates/support for as long as your OS is receiving them. With Windows for example, after a new version is released there is 5 years of mainstream support and 5 years of extended support for the previous version. Even after 10 years though, my OS Windows 7 will always work. It won't receive any new updates or features, but it will work. Consoles on the other hand can stop updating/supporting at any given time. When PS4/XBOX One comes out, eventually the servers for online play will be shut down. It might not happen until PS5/XBOX Two? even, but it will happen. At that point you will still be able to play single player, but you won't be able to play online. However with PC games, they usually work on multiple OS's and different versions of each. I can play online with people using XP and Windows 8 as they can with me. And if I have game with Steam Play I can play with people using Mac/Linux. I can't play a PS2 game online with someone on another PlayStation console though, in fact I can't even play with someone on another PS2 because they shut down the servers, like they will do with PS3 eventually. PC games, if they are popular enough and have enough players online each month, will always have servers open because even with a new OS released they can usually still be enjoyed on it.

PlayStation Plus is an awesome feature of PlayStation though. When PlayStation Plus first came out some of my friends laughed at me for having it. They thought it was funny that PS3 online was free yet I was paying for something they thought just gave you a little yellow plus symbol next to your name. Well I had the last laugh! There were certain games they were buying and when they told me they got one I would say something like, "Oh you mean the game that went on sale for FREE this weekend with PlayStation Plus? Yeah I got that." ;) In the end some of them ended up paying more each month for the games they were purchasing than I was for being a subscriber and getting them for free or reduced prices.

HED 07-26-2013 04:20 AM

I'm not really much of a gamer anymore, but I do have a Wii U so I suppose that's my answer. At the same time, I'm just as likely to play a game on my computer as I am on a console.


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