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mimartin 07-15-2013 05:23 PM

Happy Birthday Knights of the Old Republic!

Can't believe no one made a thread.... Even that evil MMO that destroyed all our fun has celebrated KotOR than us..

Happy 10th anniversary KotOR, the game that brought me here, introduced me to RPGs and all of you...

Sith Sizzle 07-15-2013 06:03 PM

No one made this thread because we used force sense and saw that you would make one! I don't know if it's just because of my obsession with Star Wars, but KOTOR was the best RPG experience I've ever had. My only regret is that I didn't discover this forum sooner.

Mandalore5 07-15-2013 06:17 PM

KotOR - one of the greatest RPGs ever made, definitely the best Star Wars RPG. TOR doesn't even begin to come close...And the celebration today really wasn't that much - in fact I bet we can out-celebrate them!

Taak Farst 07-15-2013 10:20 PM

Happy Birthday KotOR, the reason many of us are here!

Red Hessian 07-16-2013 04:45 AM

Wow, 10 years. Who would have thought the game would age this well? :D

And like mims said, KotOR is what brought me here and introduced me to RPGs.

Happy anniversary!

Obi-Wan Bologna 07-16-2013 10:52 AM

Long live KOTOR! Still such an amazing game after 10 years, I think it will always stand up at least in my mind.

purifier 07-16-2013 11:50 AM

Oh! Oh! Yeah. Happy Birthday KotOR! :bday2:

Now where's the KotOR Birthday cake? :raise: I don't see no KotOR Birthday cake.

Sith Sizzle 07-16-2013 08:01 PM

milestails 07-16-2013 09:07 PM

Looks like a decent game...I should try it out lol

Sith Sizzle 07-16-2013 11:19 PM


Originally Posted by milestails (Post 2835471)
Looks like a decent game...I should try it out lol

Shem 07-17-2013 12:53 AM


July 15th marks the 10-year anniversary for Star Wars®: Knights of the Old Republic™ (KOTOR™). BioWare™ was the development studio behind the critically acclaimed RPG which LucasArts published on the Xbox® in 2003. Aspyr Media later brought KOTOR to the Mac in 2004 and recently released the full-game experience exclusively on the iPad, making the game available for the first time on mobile devices. To celebrate 10 years of KOTOR our guest blogger Jon Carr was lucky enough to chat with KOTOR Lead Designer James Ohlen from BioWare for a Q&A on the development of the game and more. Read more below on how your favorite Star Wars RPG came to be!

Jon Carr: Can you introduce yourself to our readers and explain the role you had in creating Knights Of The Old Republic?

James Ohlen: My name is James Ohlen. Currently I’m a VP/Studio Creative Director at EA/Bioware. I’ve worked as Game Director on Star Wars: The Old Republic as well as lead designer on Baldur’s Gate 1 and 2, Neverwinter Nights and Dragon Age: Origins. I was the lead designer on Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic. In that role I handled story, level design and game systems.

JC: You were also lead designer on Baldur’s Gate and Neverwinter Nights. How did your role in creating those games influence the development and vision of KOTOR?

JO: Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic was built on all of the learning we gained about storytelling and level design from the Baldur’s Gate games. The Neverwinter Nights engine was used to build KOTOR, so that game had a big influence on the game systems we put into KOTOR.

KOTOR lead designer James OhlenJC: Given the large amount of Star Wars movies, games and books, how did you decide on the timeframe and story for KOTOR?

JO: We wanted a timeframe that gave us the freedom to tell an epic story where the player’s choices could impact the entire galaxy. That would be difficult during the movie era as Luke, Han and Leia were the movers and shakers of that time period. So we decided to base the game in The Old Republic era. Even though the game takes place thousands of years ago, we felt it was important that it feel similar in tone to the original trilogy, both in story and in art style.

JC: The murderous yet amusing HK-47 Droid is probably the biggest fan-favorite character in KOTOR. Do you have a favorite character personally?

JO: Probably Carth, since that was the name of a character I played as a kid in the West End Games pen and paper Star Wars RPG.

JC: What are you most proud of in the creation of KOTOR?

JO: The story twist. I thought we managed to pull off a twist that almost had the same impact as when Darth Vader revealed to Luke that he was his father. We used the Sixth Sense as a guide for how a good twist was pulled off. One of the lessons from that movie was that you had to leave enough clues that a sizeable percentage of the audience would figure out the twist before you revealed it. If you didn’t leave enough clues, then the twist would ring false.

JC: You were the lead designer on both KOTOR and Bioware’s most recent Star Wars game, Star Wars: The Old Republic (SWTOR). How did your experience with developing KOTOR affect or influence SWTOR later on?

JO: If you look at all the games on which I’ve been the lead designer, you’ll notice that there are certain recurring elements:

-Epic heroic story arcs
-Difficult moral choices that impact the story
-Interesting companion characters
-Classic class based RPG game systems

All of those elements were in KOTOR and the goal was to put all of them into SWTOR. That was a big challenge, since storytelling had never been done in a massively multiplayer online world and at such a large scale before.

JC: KOTOR is a masterpiece of RPG design and execution. Looking back a decade of RPG creation, do you think some of the magic has been lost, or have developers found new ways to innovate?

JO: I don’t think the magic has been lost all. Casey Hudson and the rest of his team have done a great job of building the Mass Effect series into a franchise that has innovated in many different ways. The guys over at Bethesda have done some amazing stuff with the Elder Scrolls series and Fallout 3. I think it’s a golden age for Western RPGs right now.

JC: In your mind, what makes Star Wars® such a compelling universe for games?

JO: Star Wars leans more towards fantasy than science fiction and I think that’s to its benefit. It has good vs. evil, monsters, princesses, knights, magic items, etc. All of these make it as easy fit for the RPG genre. Star Wars is also one of the most beloved IPs in the world. Since the first movie came out in 1977 fans have wanted to live in that universe and video games are the closest they’ll ever get to that fantasy.

JC: How did you get into Role-Playing-Games to begin with? What inspired you to start creating them?

JO: When I was ten years old, a friend of mine introduced me to Dungeons and Dragons with the adventure Keep on the Borderlands. After killing my first goblin, I was hooked. My main hobby from that time forward was pen and paper RPGs. Since I didn’t know anyone who liked to be the Dungeon Master, I found myself always taking that role. It was fun creating worlds, but the most interesting challenge was telling an epic story that my players were able to influence. I played a lot of RPG systems, but the main ones were Dungeons and Dragons, Mechwarrior, West End Game’s Star Wars and FASA’s Star Trek.

JC: What games are keeping you busy now?

JO: I’m kind of addicted to World of Tanks right now. I liked the Walking Dead game.

JC: Thank you for your time!

Sabretooth 07-17-2013 02:30 AM

The best part about this thread is knowing that there almost certainly will never be as much media attention for KotOR II's 10th anniversary.

Shem 07-17-2013 03:35 AM


Originally Posted by Sabretooth (Post 2835484)
The best part about this thread is knowing that there almost certainly will never be as much media attention for KotOR II's 10th anniversary.

Considering how TOR pretty much disregarded TSL, I would imagine that it won't get that much respect in 17 months from now.

Alexrd 07-17-2013 06:01 AM

I'll celebrate it on December, which was when the PC version was released over here.

Miltiades 07-17-2013 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by Shem (Post 2835488)
Considering how TOR pretty much disregarded TSL, I would imagine that it won't get that much respect in 17 months from now.

TOR or no TOR, the amount of respect TSL gets wouldn't change all that much, I'd bet. Which is a shame, considering it's the better of the two games. But most people don't seem to think so, so yeah.

But credit where credit's due. KotOR played a pivotal role in my personal gaming history, as it introduced me to RPGs, of which I have played many since. It has long since been pushed off of my favorite games list, but I sometimes catch myself being nostalgic about walking around on KotOR's planets (often times Manaan, can you believe it?). So happy birthday, KotOR!

Taos 07-20-2013 10:57 PM

It's hard for me to believe it's been 10 years since the release of Kotor. This game was what brought me to the Lucasforums. Of course, I haven't been around here in years, but I'm playing SW:TOR (despite my own wishes for Kotor 3 - what can I do?). But this anniversary reminded me of days gone by. And many fond memories of craziness in Aresen/the Swamp (looking at you Lynk, Wacky and many many others). Is Rogue Nine still around? lol

I remember when the only staff members (of were myself, Hannibal, and Com Raven. We only had like two different forums at the time. Pretty awesome to see how the community has evolved over the years. Even though I haven't posted in a while, I do drop in and read. But for this occasion, I had to post. This is my favorite game of all time. I'll never forget the Revan reveal, for some reason, I never saw it coming.

Happy Birthday SW:Kotor!! :)

~Leemu Taos

CptPriceless 07-21-2013 12:52 AM


Indeed. First RPG I ever played, still among the best.

milestails 07-21-2013 01:26 AM


Originally Posted by Sith Sizzle (Post 2835474)


Sith Sizzle 07-21-2013 03:45 AM


Originally Posted by milestails (Post 2835623)

I know it was but I just had to post that!

VanillaFrostAxe 07-21-2013 04:00 PM

The PC version of the game was released to my native country on November. I'd rather wait before I celebrate.

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