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mariners2001 03-19-2002 12:37 AM


I read on JK Mod Central that you recently attended the JK2 Launch Party. It must've been great seeing the game in action. :eek: You said "It's all good..." on your site, but is it possible to emphasize more on what you saw and possibly answer some of our many questions about the game (ex. bat sabers, force powers, enemy AI, saber combat) and possibly give your own little review?

What d'ya say guys, a little encouragement for the man?! :D

If not, we'll understand, I'll have the game in my grasps in no time....

Roger 03-19-2002 12:45 PM

Thanks for reading JOMC, mariners2001

I was thinking about writing a review, but I feel that I didn't play long enough to really know what the game is all about and to be able to write a good review (plus there's the fact that I'm not a good writer...).

I can tell you though that it definately has a JK 1 feel to it (to me anyways). The model animations are perfect, force powers impressive and the levels BIG! I didn't notice the batsaber effect, so I guess that's a good thing. The enemy AI is really cool. Stormtroopers running away from you, or hiding behind something. Or when you made some noise outside, they'll be waiting for you behind a door, on their knee, arms ready. There was one level on Bespin where some security guards fight along with you, pretty cool. The weapons are really nice too, nice effects, good weapon animations, you know the drill...

So that's what I meant with: "It's all good..."

That's really all I can tell... If you have any questions, let me know and I'll try to answer them...


TUS_Tomcat 03-19-2002 12:53 PM

Nah you can tell more, such as:

- Did you notice if you can fully customise saber color for MP (like 24 million different colors, or are stuck to say, ten presets (red, blue, green etc...)

- Did you see any saber duels? if so, were the fights looking more like hit fights or miss fights...

explanation: hit fights is like the moveis, almost every swing they make is parried by the opponent, miss fights are like, almost every swing only hits air, and sometimes one swing is blocked or someone dies...

(i prefer hit fights :) )

just, TELL US lol :D how long did you get to see the game (did you get to PLAY it? omg bastard)

we love you ;)

TUS_Tomcat 03-19-2002 12:54 PM

Did you just edit that post? Cause i read it, then typed my post, came back to the thread, and it seems theres more info in your post now... Am i going insane?

Roger 03-19-2002 01:03 PM

I edited it Tomcat.

I can recall picking the saber color... I think it's pre-set, so no infinite amount of colors.

The saber fights were kind of tricky. The one I had in single player rocked, definately a hit fight. The ones I had in multiplayer were another story. I think Brett Tosti (producer for LucasArts) turned the bots on some kind of "highest difficulty" setting to mess around with us. So for me it was miss, but for the bots it was hit fighting...

Another thing about the bots, I don't know if someone already told you about this, but each bot model has his/her own character. So one bot model might be more soldier like (like the stormtrooper and rebel trooper) while the reborn and Luke are more Jedi like (so they will use the saber more often)...

TUS_Tomcat 03-19-2002 01:14 PM

good that im not going insane then (i already was)

Sounds good man :)

So, you played multiplayer, did you get an idea if the force powers are balanced? Or was it too short for that? I mean, could you just use grip and get the enemy all the time or not?

ALso, yeah i heard about character a bit, a bit different but also interesting in that matter is that Changkhan said in another thread:

"There are 3 player-usable saber animation sets, distinct from each other, then 2 more that are used by certain NPC characters only (for a total of 5)."

So the NPCs have two saber stances of their own as well it seems... We'll need a mod which allows us to use them...

Did you get a look at all the multiplayer models? No Fett, no Vader?

Leia? Solo?

Thanks for anwering man, i really appreciate such things!

Roger 03-19-2002 01:17 PM

Like I said before, I played too short to really go into gameplay (force powers, balance, etc.) details...

No Vader, no Fett...

TUS_Tomcat 03-19-2002 01:27 PM


thanks man :)

Hannibal 03-19-2002 01:35 PM

Re: Roger

Originally posted by mariners2001
... said "It's all good..." on your site...

What's the address of your site?:)

Roger 03-19-2002 01:35 PM

digl 03-19-2002 06:38 PM

No vader model ? :eek:

I know there will be user made BF and Vader really soon, but I would have liked official models from characters out of the timeline. I mean c'mon it's Darth Vader! How many people out there think they are going to play online as Vader? (not me, but I know there are many)

Belgirion 03-19-2002 06:41 PM

Roger that!

lol! :lol:

Roger 03-19-2002 06:56 PM

Well, I think it's no fun to be Darth Vader...

There can only be one Darth Vader...

It's a lot cooler (IMHO) to create your own skin or use a more generic skin to be part of a team...

Belgirion, it's actually Roger as Roger in French... but the people over here (in the US) have a hard time pronouncing that... so I changed it to Roger as in Roger Roger (battle droid)...

[sico] 03-19-2002 06:58 PM

hope some one makes an obi wan model!

mariners2001 03-19-2002 07:00 PM

Hey, Roger. Thanks for answering our questions. Did you get to use force speed in SP? Is it "slo-mo" like we heard?

Also, if you don't want to write a review, what are the three best things and the three worst things about JK2?


At least this will help time pass for JK2's release...:D

Roger 03-19-2002 07:07 PM

I did see someone else use force speed in SP and I'm not going to comment on it... you have to see for yourself, I don't want to spoil things ;)

The three best things (from what I saw):
- the character animations
- the models
- the levels

(remember, I didn't play that much of the game, I didn't want to spoil it for myself)

The three worst things:
- didn't get to play the whole game
- there was no LAN for multiplayer
- the bread was kinda dry


[sico] 03-19-2002 07:17 PM

did you manage to cut off some stormtrooper limbs in sp?

Roger 03-19-2002 09:48 PM

I didn't see any limbs flying, now that doesn't mean there aren't limbs that you can cut off. I just don't remember...

Blame the Heineken :D

[sico] 03-19-2002 09:58 PM

*shakes fist at the heineken*

Zek 03-19-2002 10:00 PM

Wait... NO MANDALOR?(think that's what it's called, the boba fett-ish model)

Roger 03-19-2002 10:03 PM

No Boba, Jango or other Fett, no mandalorian armour...

But, I'm sure there will be a model within days for download somewhere on the net

[sico] 03-19-2002 10:05 PM

you happen to spot any different saber colours in mp? (other than yellow,orange,red,blue,green,purple)

Roger 03-19-2002 10:07 PM

Nope... again this doesn't mean those are the only colors... those are the colors I saw...


[sico] 03-19-2002 10:18 PM

*shakes fist at the heineken again*

Roger 03-19-2002 10:24 PM

You can shake your fist all you want, but the PR peeps at LEC sure know how to throw a party! Other than the dry bread ;) everything was perfect!

Desslock 03-19-2002 10:48 PM

*note to self: Dont tell anyone about the playtest you had...* Uhh, oops. :D

Necro 03-19-2002 11:02 PM


Originally posted by Roger
I did see someone else use force speed in SP and I'm not going to comment on it... you have to see for yourself, I don't want to spoil things ;)

The three best things (from what I saw):
- the character animations
- the models
- the levels

(remember, I didn't play that much of the game, I didn't want to spoil it for myself)

The three worst things:
- didn't get to play the whole game
- there was no LAN for multiplayer
- the bread was kinda dry


what is the meaning of this! saber/dueling not one of the best?!?!?!

no lan!?!?!?!?!

im gonna crrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyy

/me cries

Roger 03-19-2002 11:21 PM


No, it means that they didn't have a LAN setup at the party. They had two PC's running the game, but they weren't connected, so we could play against eachother at the party...

Ofcourse there is LAN support in the game...

And if you read my first post you'll see that I think the saber duelling rocks, I just didn't duel that much and saw more of the character design, level design and force powers being used by me and other players...

You see, this is why I don't like talking about the game... I didn't play it long enough to make a judgement, so I don't want to talk about it but then I end up talking about it, and people get me wrong...

So, I'm not going to talk about it anymore (I think I said everything about all that I saw/played anyway)


Darth Ergotht 03-19-2002 11:38 PM

Whoa ! Well thanks for answering our questions Roger. Are all the stormies running away from you when they see you with the lightsabre ?

Roger 03-19-2002 11:41 PM

np, you're all welcome...

I did see them run away, but I don't know if it was because of my light saber or because I just mowed some of their buddies down...

You see, now I'm talking about it again!


Darth Ergotht 03-19-2002 11:43 PM


For the time you've played, how much would you give to this game on a scale of 1 to 10 ?

Roger 03-19-2002 11:46 PM


You won't stop won't you...

Well, I'm not the right person to ask... I run a Jedi Outcast Website, I'm a fan, I'm not an objective journalist...

So I'll keep it at what I said initially:"It's all good..."

10 baby, IT ROCKS!!!

Rogue_Ace 03-19-2002 11:54 PM

Did you get a chance to experiance the different difficulty levels (aka Rookie, Vet.,Expert) and if so how much contrast was there between them.

BTW its really cool that you take the time to answer our pitiful questions:D


Darth Ergotht 03-19-2002 11:55 PM


So much questions, so little time. HAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!

I know how you feel, I'm a really big fan too, 17 years of dedication to Star wars.

One last :) , you said the game is like "immersive" but did people get tired for playing after 1 or 2 hours ?

Roger 03-20-2002 12:00 AM

I never said "the game is immersive" :cool:

There was not enough time... I played, all in all maybe 15-20 minutes (SP and MP combined) and watched other people play.

People didn't get tired, they were reluctant to stop playing :D but they had too, cause other people wanted to try it out too...

I didn't have the chance to check the difference between the different difficulty levels... Again too little time...

Darth Ergotht 03-20-2002 12:08 AM

ok, maybe you didn'T say that the "game was immersive" but you were thinking it ! :p

TUS_Tomcat 03-20-2002 10:14 AM

Okay let's wrap it up...

Roger, we thank you for your time for conducting this interview with the forum folks, it's much appreciated!

Now, let's shift our attention to Desslock


:) talk away !@?

Rogue_Ace 03-20-2002 10:25 AM

Yes, Yes, tell all:D :D


Scrobes 03-20-2002 10:52 AM

roflmao @ the whole thread

Excellent, excellent.

And Tomcat, you make me crack up with nearly all your posts, and I've hardly been on here yet. Am I doomed? ;)

Rogue_Ace 03-20-2002 10:58 AM

OOHHH an Newbie... lets eat him:evil6: ... just joking welcome to the forums:)

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