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Old 09-16-2005, 11:34 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by Astrotoy7
re- clone wars series..... surely you noticed the whole "battle for coruscant" events were out of whack in each description. Never have two EU sources described the same event with such differences. eg, Jedi involved in abduction and chase of palpatine, events of chase. What Yoda and mace were doing at the time and what Obi and anakin were doing at the time...

of course, even in ROTS, the stated facts align more closely with LoE, with "The Business of Cato Neimoudia" and the mission to rescue the chancellor being led by Obi Wan. The CW series ends with Anakin rushing to his ship in a huff
I think it is pretty clear that the novel version of events is the canonical one. The CW is over the top in almost every respect (Mace jumping 5 miles, Mace controling a droid fighter by pulling the wires, etc.) and I think it is clear that they are an exaggerated telling of the actual events. For example, in the episode where Mace takes on hundreds of super battle droids on Dantooine, a little boy runs up to the top of the hill to watch. Perhaps what is shown is his description, which of course would look even more fantastic through a child's eyes. Just my take.

In any event, I take most of the CW as an over the top telling of the events of the clone wars. In the cases where there are contradictions, I take the books as factual. The CW group was given a lot of freedom in terms of story, whereas LoE was influenced heavily by Lucas himself. I think applying the general rules of SW canon clear things up for the most part.

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Originally Posted by Astrotoy7
I loved the CW series, but it was just hilarious to hear people describing Grievous cough as a deliberate move by Lucas because Mace "crushed" Grievous lungs in the series.
Indeed. If anything, it was likely the other way around. Likely Ghendy learned or was told about GG's cough in the film, and decided to add his own explanation of why it is so. I think his is a reasonable enough solution to explain it away.

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Long before the series was aired, GL was in a sound studio with Matt Wood during the recording of some of grievous lines and coughed into the mic. He insisted that cough be put into the film and Grievous be animated accordingly. GLs view of GG seems to be at odds with the Grievous portrayed in the CW series. A ruthless/unstoppable killer with a creepy metallic voice in the series, Lucas describes the General as a "moustache twirling villain, a coward, not a killer" (source - The Making of ROTS)
And I think that is what he is. He is a bully, plain and simple. He is confident when he is matched against foes that he is superior to. He is deadly enough, as shown in the various CW stories, but when he is stood up to by equal or greater opponents, he tends to flee when he finds he doesn't have the advantage. In RotS, he is faced by Anakin (the Chosen One) and Kenobi (A JC member and the master of the Form III lightsaber style), two of the greatest members of the Jedi Order. He choses to flee. I don't think that really contradicts what we see in EU stories where he usually faces less capable foes.

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At the end of the day its just a very vivid example of how GL/films always supercedes any EU material. Whilst I love EU, Im not upset at that idea at all, as the SW universe is GLs creation and he has the right/freedom to change/do whatever he wants with it...this includes the whole Greedo and Shaw scandals(perhaps unfortunately??)
Indeed. We know he views films and the EU is different entities, and I am content to use the various levels of canon to resolve any discrepencies. Overall, the continuity of the SW saga is pretty solid, and I do appreciate the fact that Lucas is willing to give others a pretty reasonable amount of freedom when adding to the lore.

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