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Old 11-22-2005, 03:47 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by Skye
That date does seem to appear in many apocalyptic prophesies, doesn't it? Its even more intriguing that the basis for these projections are so scientifically backed, you know? I agree: better saddle up for it.
A couple of facts:
-December 21 - End of the great cycle of the Maya calendar's Long Count and a 26,000 year planetary cycle in the Aztec calendar, and thus the alleged end of our world (the end of the cycle is dated December 22 or December 23 by some calculations).
-The Orion Prophecy predicts the end of the world in 2012 EC (or AD, whatever)
-Terrence MacKenna’s Timewave Zero theory; again December 21, 2012, not necessarily end of the world, but still.
-The Egyptian calendar ends in 2012.
-The Olduvai cliff will begin and permanent blackouts will occur worldwide, according to "The Peak of World Oil Production and the Road To The Olduvai Gorge" by Richard C. Duncan.
-Tibetan Monks specialising in remote viewing predict that divine extra-terrestrials will intervene at a point where the world's governments are about to deploy weapons of mass destruction. Adding to this, the Tibetan Monks say that the world is not ready to be destroyed and that our Earth is blessed and being saved continuously from all kinds of hazards that Mankind is not even aware of.
-According to the 1997 book The Bible Code the world will end due to a collision with a meteor, asteroid or comet. -Nostradamus (In my opinion, a crtic of the 16th Century, who disguised his works as prophecies), said the same; 2012.
-Interpreted by millennialists as a time when there will be an evolutionary change in human consciousness brought about by a series of world changing events or revelations. Following this period of upheaval they believe we will begin a new 1,000 year cycle in which peace, enlightenment and our environment take priority.
-43 more reason for the world to end on 21.12.12.

I must admit, I’m quite excited by this now. I’ve got that kind of “I know this ain’t true, but nevertheless it is still interesting” feeling; it is amazing what you can learn after a small discussion.

Originally Posted by Jofa Guht
You have to say that as many times I've called someone else a pessimist and they came up with the exact same response. (Mind you, this is with simpler topics, such as "if we drive downtown tonight we're all gonna die." which is much more absurd, no?)
Well, I am a pessimist then. But still there is a positive side of it. Suppose you give an exam which you thought you did not do well; two things can happen then:
-Either you get a bad mark, and since you were expecting it, you won’t be disappointed.
-Or, you get a good mark; you would then be quite happy, and “will promise to study more for the next time”.
If you are an optimist, you will not be as happy if you get a good mark, and will be deeply diasppointed with yourself if you don’t.
It is stupid, but it's just an example of the everyday life.

As said by the great Ambrose Bierce:
OPTIMIST, n. A proponent of the doctrine that black is white.
A pessimist applied to God for relief.
"Ah, you wish me to restore your hope and cheerfulness," said God.
"No," replied the petitioner, "I wish you to create something that
would justify them."
"The world is all created," said God, "but you have overlooked
something -- the mortality of the optimist."

PESSIMISM, n. A philosophy forced upon the convictions of the
observer by the disheartening prevalence of the optimist with his
scarecrow hope and his unsightly smile.

Originally Posted by Jofa Guht
It's not necessarily getting any worse either. There's always been "ebbs and flows" when it comes to the state of the world. Times when it's awful, and times when there's more hope than war, and creativity and technology leans toward the side of good. Now, we're in an awful phase, but the world's gone through worse.
That is discussible I guess…

And, I forgot to mention, that I feel the same about Strangers. I think I mentioned it in the anecdote I told at the Simultaneously Restless and Exhausted thread.

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