"That is what it is to be Sith. The apprentice learns everytihng he needs, then overthrow the master to become Lord of the Sith. But this is for another discussion as this is a thread about Plagueis."
if we are talking about one of the most influencial Sith that ever walked or taught, anything, dont you think that it is part of what the thread needs to get you to think on Plagueis? especially if it is about him and his apprentice, being Sidious learned from Plagueis? we cant just get into a theory without contemplating every possible idea about why this is the way it is or what it is about without considering all the facts.
and Yoda lost his cloak, lol, and never wore it again......
Yoda could have gone full force, but this goes against his teaching to Luke:
"never for attack." Master Yoda.
it doesnt mean he couldnt of killed Sidious, it just means that he didnt and considered what might happen if he tried; he could have failed not only against saving the Jedi Order, but failed by losing his life and the Jedi Order never coming back. he had a chance with Luke and succeeded. was Luke even a Jedi after maybe 3 years in training? just because you knew some things on the force doesnt mean you know enough the bring back the Jedi Order, even though Luke did, what could happen to it if he were to have an apprentice who disagreed with his teachings, slew him and started the Sith teachings once again, as the Sith do? the Jedi Order would be in even more darkness because he never truely understood what it meant to know the force, enough to teach it.
like any teacher or Master you have to understand what is possible with what you know. like Yoda also said before he died:
"Remember, a Jedi's strength flows from the Force. But beware. Anger, fear, aggression. The dark side are they. Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny. Luke... Luke... do not... do not underestimate the powers of the Emperor or suffer your father's fate you will. Luke, when gone am I... the last of the Jedi will you be. Luke, the Force runs strong in your family. Pass on what you have learned, Luke. There is... another... Sky... walk...er.” Master Yoda
"pass on what you have learned" is a way for both Jedi and Sith, because in order to teach you need to know what you have learned, what you have experienced with what you've learned and what you know is evident with what to know; by using it.
Plagueis was killed for what he taught Sidious, the ways of the Sith, does this mean that even Sidious understood anything other then what his Master taught him? it does not matter his politcal accomplishments, yes, they were part of it, but that is something more complex; but, in everything that we do, we are to be True with what we know, towards how we are in what we do, in everything it is that we do. this can be for either the Sith or the Jedi and is part of them both.
if we want to get into a conversation about Darth Plagueis we need to know more information on him. does anyone know where to get this information?
"there is darkness in you Jedi Knight, i can feel it...."
Last edited by shaded6; 01-20-2006 at 10:21 AM.