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Old 12-14-2006, 03:19 AM   #190
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Originally Posted by The Sith'ari
Ok, I ain't gonna do all the quoting again. And this is getting unnecessarily messy. In short, it's plain simple: Jawajoey, throughout his little paragraph, has been referring to "fighting". As a matter of fact, it's implied that he was also referring to fighting, i.e. combat, when he said Nihilus "sucks". If you don't get it, then fine by me.
I admit I should have known he was talking about combat and not Nihilus' character. But, should I have known that he was talking about gameplay combat, not plot combat? No. I've already explained why.

Originally Posted by The Sith'ari
And for that quote you said you didn't say, my wrong, maybe it's Jediphile. Sorry about that. But this you did say: "in terms of gameplay, Nihilus did indeed suck, however in terms of plot, Nihilus could beat anyone, except the Exile." Now that you've clarified, I take that you meant in terms of plot, Nihilus could beat anyone with his draining ability. I mistook your meaning as him beating anyone in combat then, because in the first sentence you were talking about combat in gameplay. With all due respect, you may consider expressing with more clarity next time then.
Why would I need to clarify that? Why would I dismiss Nihilus' draining ability? You can't do that. It's simple. In terms of gameplay, Nihilus did suck, he was weak. In terms of plot though, he could beat anyone except for the Exile. It's the truth, because whether he was good at saber combat or not is irrelevant, because of his draining ability.

Originally Posted by The Sith'ari
But I just wanna point out that, the fact that Nihilus's fighting is anti-climatic doesn't make the gameplay not consistent with plot, as you seem to imply in your previous arguments here (however you deny it) and in this thread. Maybe he's meant to be weak in combat. Since no other sources suggest otherwise, we might just as well refer to the gameplay as "canon", that his fighting sucks.
I don't agree with that, because no one from a plot perspective has said that Nihilus' sucked in saber combat either. You can make an assumption based on the gameplay if you want, but it doesn't change the fact that we don't know if his fighting skills did/didn't suck.

I could very well argue that the Exile's super gameplay build and the level 50 cap were the reasons why Nihilus appeared to suck in combat. I wouldn't take stats, skills, force powers, feats and all that crap with a grain of salt. Hey, maybe the Exile was an awesome duelist, better than Revan perhaps. We just don't know, or do we? I do not claim to be an expert on this type of stuff.

Originally Posted by The Sith'ari
I don't know MacCorp, but if someone shared the same opinion that I gave, I don't know, maybe it's true in some context. But, Architect, I meant no hostility. I just pointed out something I found questionable. I hope we're friends, genuinely. So, .
Friends? I wouldn't say that, because you don't know me, and I don't know you. That's not to say I don't like you or anything, but friends is not the term I'd use.

Forum buddy? Yeah, sure. Why not? I have nothing against you. You're all that and a bag of potato chips IMO (I assume you've seen Austin Powers)? No offence taken to what you've said at all. You're fine by me.

About MacCorp? Well, check out this topic and see for yourself so you can make a decision on that matter if you want:

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