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Old 04-29-2008, 05:02 AM   #55
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Originally Posted by Achilles
I guess the point of this rant is to point out that the U.S. has absolutely no intention of estabilishing a truly independent democracy in Iraq....
Frankly, don't think it would matter if we did have that intention or not. By which I mean any truly "independent"* democracy would last about as long as the Weimar Republic did after WW1. Took several centuries for the west to develop workable systems and a thorough beating down for the Germans and Japanes to come around. Arguably, in the west, it also required a certain amount of decoupling of strong religious influence from the levers of state power. Not likely to see that in the Middle East for some time, it seems.

*as in not "controlled" by the US, not necessarily others, apparently

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