Originally Posted by Yar-El
thus, the only other way is to create a sense of doubt.
Not what I was saying at all.
"True Believers" have devised a system whereby belief in the face of doubt and/or evidence is rewarded (it's called "faith"). Helping to inform and providing sound reasoning for those that are not True Believers is a little different. And sometimes this is accomplished by debating True Believers, even though you know they won't hear you.