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Old 03-24-2009, 06:17 PM   #12
True_Avery
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Then tell me scientifically how life began on this planet and we evolved so quickly considering the allowable time frame for life to have taken shape on this planet, because evolution breaks down when we talk about how life began.
No, it does not. Evolution does not address how life began.

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The Chemical Composition of Amino Acids when looking at the composition of the Atmosphere in which life began is extremely destructive to Amino Acids due to the fact that the chemicals that made up the atmosphere was more reactive to Amino Acid components, than the components of Amino Acids were to each other.
How is this relevant at all?

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No, you're the one claiming there is no higher power, and I'm going to say flat out: "Prove it."
Then learn to read. He said "Why is it not okay to just accept that we don't know something?", not "God doesn't exist".

You are the one that believes your christian god exists. Skinwalker has stated multiple times that he cannot prove or disprove the existance of a diety, but automatically saying "god did it" does not help the situation or problem.

The burden of poof is entirely on your shoulders, as you are the one that believes it.

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Fact is antimatter was considered to not exist at one time, and it exists.
How is this relevant?

We may not know how life began, but just because we don't know does not automatically mean it was your concept of god. Like you said, we didn't even think anti-matter exist. Turns out is does.

Now, apply that to your theory. We do not know how life began, but that does not automatically mean it will never be proven.

Same with god. There is no proof of the existence or non-existence of god but that does not automatically assume that it exists.

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There is all kinds of things on the subatomic level that you can't observe directly yet they exist.
So, you want to scientifically prove the existence of an intelligent, benevolent deity that gave you the bible?

Ok, go ahead. We're saying that it has not been proven or disproven, so to think absolutely that it exists is fallacious logic. The burden of proof is on your shoulders, so feel free to be the one that builds that super microscope that zooms in on god.

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Well, problem with your argument is that people have had near death experiences where they've seen various things that scientists can't quite explain. While many brain functions are the result of electro-chemical interactions, there are things that happen in the brain that cannot be explained even still.
People have hallucinations that bugs are crawling out of their skin. In their mind it is real and they react, but in reality they are just in their bed having a panic attack.

Just because your mind sees it does not necessarily mean it is there. Take schizophrenics for example.

A lot of stuff happens in your brain when it starts to die. Lack of oxygen is well known for creating bursts of apparent light in the brain, and in the panic of injury the brain is known to do amazing things.

This does not mean, however, that these things are super natural. This does not mean that everything your brain sees when you are on LSD is 100% real.

And this by no means proves god. Prove that it does, or you are just supposing.

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I think I'm going to get out the book I have that was written by a former atheist whom started out writing a book trying to disprove God's existence and ended up becoming a devout Christian.
I could also find you books of people who claim that Xenu blew an alien race up with hydrogen bombs around a volcano and their spirits live in us.

Like blogs, hallucinations, etc... just because someone says they think it is real does not make it proven fact. Until we can prove that the drunk sees a purple elephant in the room with him, then it is all in his mind.

So your book on an atheist-turned-christian is irrelevant. You can still share, however, and I'd be glad to link you to books about Christians turning to atheism.
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