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Old 04-25-2002, 10:46 PM   #32
Kurgan
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no offense mr kurgan but i mean come on wtf. clogging the servers? jk2 isnt exactly tearing it up in the number of people online category. i agree raven deserves all the money they can get BUT. I dont think it was ravens call on this game. LucasArts, if worried, could have easily licensed the Q3 authentication scheme. I mean for christ's sake there isnt even a CD key for JK2.

An after purchase patch IMO is no place for including some sort of piracy prevention. That should be in the retail release or not at all. Dont waste time trying to patch in this stuff when you could be working on more game content.

just my $.02
None taken. When I say "clogging the servers" that's what I mean. I don't mean to sound elitest here, but who are these people?

They are the ones bragging and posting spoilers before anyone else had the game.

They are the ones endlessly whining about how they can't beat a certain section or can't figure out something, that they would know about already if they owned the game (and had read the manual).

They are the ones who are impatient and whine about the game in general.

They are the ones who cheat because they are bored.

What does it matter to them? They got the game for free, and it required no effort on their part. Instant gratification.

And, I know what's going to be said..

"well so and so (or I myself) pre-ordered the game, then I downloaded a copy because it's ethical and they got my money and I'm a devoted fan etc"

"I warez because (fill in reason) and I buy games I like etc etc"

Doesn't matter why you do it, the point is, it's against site policy to promote it, like it or not. These debates never go anywhere anyway, the con side will always have an advantage as long as we're officially anti-pirate.

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jk2 isnt exactly tearing it up in the number of people online category.
Compared to what, Half Life? I see quite a few people playing online, I think that says something. I was saying that I don't need warez kiddies playing alongside me in games, that's all I'm saying.

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I dont think it was ravens call on this game. LucasArts, if worried, could have easily licensed the Q3 authentication scheme. I mean for christ's sake there isnt even a CD key for JK2.
Maybe so. We don't know the real reason. I wish they had. That would have meant I wouldn't have to had play next to these jag-offs. ; p

Think of it this way.. what if you waited in line to see Star Wars Episode 2, and you paid ahead of time and got great seats etc, and you paid full price for tickets, way in advance.

So you show up and this big group of loud, obnoxious people budges ahead of you in line, and sneaks into the theatre, pays nothing and sits right in front of you at the movie. They talk during the film and make a general annoyance of themselves, but they don't get thrown out of the theatre.

They get up and leave just before you do and you hear them whining about how the movie "sucked."

Wouldn't that kind of ruin the experience for you? That's how many of us see the whole piracy of JK2. I know that the lack of a cd key is partially to blame, but the other part is the ease that pirates have of distrbuting stuff, and the care-free attitude people have about it.

Yeah, I know, "it can't be stopped" and a free game is too hard to pass up for many many people. But there's a reason why it's resented on a fan site like this. I don't want my tax dollars to go to arrest people for copying games, but I just would like people to show a little respect to the developers and their true fans, for a change.
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