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Old 07-24-2005, 10:39 AM   #1
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Pure Pazaak: Standalone Multiplayer Pazaak!

Latest Version: v1.2.4 (29/07/2007)
- My Pure Pazaak Homepage (with download links and screens)
- Obsidian Board Thread

New to Pure Pazaak? What is Pure Pazaak?

Pure Pazaak is a fan made Pazaak clone made by me in VB6.0 (yeh I know...yuck). It's a standalone, multiplayer capable Pazaak game designed to as closely as possible mimic the original Pazaak while providing more flexibile game options and ofcourse some basic multiplayer capability.
Main features of the project:
- Play Pazaak without starting or even installing KotOR.
- A configurable/flexible version of Pazaak in general
- Network Play! (Human-Human play, via DirectIP)


Some screenshots for you to preview the game . More screenshots in the screenshots link above.

and also has a what I hope is a nice looking manual I created...eventually:


Just some quick clarifications:
- This is not a mod (in the normal sorta way). It is a fully standalone from KotOR, so no need to start it up or even have it installed.
- All this stuff is copyright LucasArts, Bioware, Obsidian, (blah blah blah). My point is that the graphics and stuff are from the KotOR games themselves, not hand painted or anything like that but the have been some edits like the game backgrounds and stuff.
- Network play is via Direct IP, so it will be hard to find players to have games without some sort of meeting place. Best you can do (and might not be too useful itself) is to join the IRC channel which someone created to act as a game lobby. See the manual for more info.
- Like all the mods this is all an "amateur" project. I'm not a professional programmer or graphic designer or anything like that.

Hope you have fun and enjoy the game. If you have any feedback, suggestions or bugs to report just post in the thread.

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Old 07-24-2005, 11:11 AM   #2
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Hey dufflover!

Glad to see you made it over here hehehe...

Thanks for the heads up on the release! Going to download this puppy (again) and "replace" my free time from solitaire with Pazaak!


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Old 07-24-2005, 11:14 AM   #3
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Great job dufflover! Glad you posted this over here

EDIT: I just tried it out in arcade mode, its great! I always wanted a pazaak game outside of kotor. Great job!


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Old 07-24-2005, 11:15 AM   #4
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So I take it this is some online sort of game outside of TSL or Kotor where you play a real game of Pazzak?


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Old 07-24-2005, 11:21 AM   #5
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So I take it this is some online sort of game outside of TSL or Kotor where you play a real game of Pazzak?
I just tried it out, and it has arcade, campaign, and network modes.


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Old 07-24-2005, 11:41 AM   #6
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Hey cool, a standalone pazaak game. I'll definitely enjoy this, thx man
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Old 07-24-2005, 11:52 AM   #7
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Heh, I've been waiting for this, nice job.




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Old 07-24-2005, 03:20 PM   #8
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Old 07-26-2005, 08:16 AM   #9
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OK, I've finished off the rest of the web page. If there's a problem you have not answered on the Help/FAQ page then Message me - I'll be glad to help if I can.

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Old 07-26-2005, 08:50 AM   #10
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Pretty cool! You did an excellent job with this!
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Old 07-26-2005, 01:27 PM   #11
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Comment/Question

Just wanted to say first off very kewl "unmod"

I will admit something almost none have ever said I'm betting....What's Pazaak?...lol j/k but in all honesty I've never actually played in either KOTOR or TSL.

I've just downloaded your game however and am wondering if you need to learn how to play in KOTOR I only? or if you can learn in TSL?

The closest I've ever gotten to playing it is when Atton trains you to block your mind and I'm sure that doesn't count

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Re: Comment/Question

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I've just downloaded your game however and am wondering if you need to learn how to play in KOTOR I only? or if you can learn in TSL?
The only new things in TSL which you have to learn about would be the new cards. Have you been to the "Rules" page of my site. It has a link which goes to a site describing the basic rules.
Back to original question; learning how to play in KotOR 1 only is good enough.

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Thumbs up

Thanks man

I did the deed and installed your game and it's a hoot I'm def. gonna learn to play now that I have a kewl game to play with

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Old 07-26-2005, 09:43 PM   #14
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Nice work man
I love to just play Pazaak



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Old 07-27-2005, 12:32 AM   #15
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I was just playing it, and I noticed something that might not be right. First, the +/-1T card means that if you and your opponent score 20 but you play this then you win the tie, right?

If I am right, then I played a -1T card when I had 21, and then my opponent (the computer) played a +1 to give him 20 as well. So I should have won, shouldn't I have?


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Old 07-27-2005, 12:55 AM   #16
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I was just playing it, and I noticed something that might not be right. First, the +/-1T card means that if you and your opponent score 20 but you play this then you win the tie, right?

If I am right, then I played a -1T card when I had 21, and then my opponent (the computer) played a +1 to give him 20 as well. So I should have won, shouldn't I have?
It was going to be like that but then someone asked about it on the Obsidian boards (why it didn't work for him in the real game) and that's where I found out that it only applies if it's the final card played (by any player).

So you played your Tie Breaker, then the computer played his +1, which means the Tie Breaker doesn't apply - yeh, I know, it's kinda strict but it's supposed to be close as possible. I've tried to confirm this myself but I can never seem to get a case to do it in...

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Old 07-27-2005, 09:53 AM   #17
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It was going to be like that but then someone asked about it on the Obsidian boards (why it didn't work for him in the real game) and that's where I found out that it only applies if it's the final card played (by any player).

So you played your Tie Breaker, then the computer played his +1, which means the Tie Breaker doesn't apply - yeh, I know, it's kinda strict but it's supposed to be close as possible. I've tried to confirm this myself but I can never seem to get a case to do it in...
Ahh. OK, well thanks for clearing that up. I guess its good that somethings not wrong with it then


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Old 08-06-2005, 12:17 PM   #18
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Version 1.0.1 is ready to download.
Here's the Pure Pazaak page URL again:
http://www.k0m3k.htmlz.net/pazaak/

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Originally Posted by Changelog.txt
v1.0.1
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- AI now knows how to use the Special K2 cards
- Re-added deck card dragging (doesn't work if you drag by the # label)
- Slightly increased the game speed
- Fixed incorrect cards with Sol'aa
- Removed a VB Control dependency (NOT the comctl32.ocx one)
- Remade the Campaign screen, added new opponent(s), existing ones unchanged.
- Dimmed cards are now manually dimmed rather than dimmed pictures
- Portraits now loaded only when needed (loading delay has been "moved")
- You now start with 1/4 of your highscore in Arcade (or 100 credits)
- Main menu now also reports your highscore
- Made sure the program wouldn't crash with too many credits (max is 2,000,000,000)
- AI is more compromising but may cause some unexpected "stupid" behaviour loop-hole.
Just as a little warning; it's 2:00am for me now so there's a chance something stupid has skipped past me and into the program - although it played fine for me.

So anyway, howz the netplay side of it going?

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Nice job Dufflover! I edited your thread title to reflect the new version
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Old 08-09-2005, 09:36 PM   #20
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Yeah I just downloaded that update and it's not working. When I unzipped it, I doubleclicked the icon and it gives me this error message:

Could not find file 'pzkdata.dat'


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Old 08-09-2005, 11:16 PM   #21
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Yeah I just downloaded that update and it's not working. When I unzipped it, I doubleclicked the icon and it gives me this error message:

Could not find file 'pzkdata.dat'
I believe you have to extract all of the contents of the compressed file into a new folder so it can find all of its components.


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Old 08-09-2005, 11:26 PM   #22
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Yeah I just downloaded that update and it's not working. When I unzipped it, I doubleclicked the icon and it gives me this error message:

Could not find file 'pzkdata.dat'
Sounds like you only downloaded the v1.0.3 Update and not the rest of the files, or you've only extracted the EXE without everything else.
Download and extract v1.0.2, then get the v1.0.3 Update and overwrite the v1.0.2 EXE.

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Old 08-09-2005, 09:46 PM   #23
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hehehe i just thought this was a mod for the game

i just downloaded it, but haven't played it yet...


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Old 08-09-2005, 11:19 PM   #24
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WOW I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I clocked over 200 hours in Kotor 1 by playing so much Pazaak! Now I can keep playing...woooooooot \o/


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Old 08-10-2005, 06:18 AM   #25
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Another update: v1.0.4

The good news is that all the bugs fixed here were there all along and not newly introduced ones.

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- Feature: Double-click a portrait to temporarily hide it
- Fix: Clicking the highscore tag in Arcade now correctly wagers the difference
- Fix: Card Screen temporary variables bugs
- Fix: Flip labels in-game now disappear properly when all relevant cards are used
- Fix: Delayed the Bust message so it wouldn't garble the "play deck card" Sound

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Old 08-10-2005, 01:15 PM   #26
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Hey I just downloaded this program. Great job Dufflover! I have a question though, how do I progress through the campaign game? I've beaten Deadeye Duncan 7 times, and no new opponents are showing up?
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Hey I just downloaded this program. Great job Dufflover! I have a question though, how do I progress through the campaign game? I've beaten Deadeye Duncan 7 times, and no new opponents are showing up?
It's 10 times.

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Old 08-11-2005, 11:37 PM   #28
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Hey Duff, like i was saying in our e-mail discussion, i think this version is the good one, no bug found yet. keep up the good work...

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Old 08-13-2005, 08:30 PM   #29
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I just downloaded it and and updated to 1.4 and I love it. I never understood how to play it in kotor, and now I finally get how to do it. One suggestion for the next update, it would be kinda cool to be able to upload your own avatars for network play, so if you could find a way to put that in it would be pretty cool.
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I just downloaded it and and updated to 1.4 and I love it. I never understood how to play it in kotor, and now I finally get how to do it.
Thanks for the comment! Although how can you "get it" thru Pure Pazaak and not in KotOR where they've got the whole tutorial and stuff?

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One suggestion for the next update, it would be kinda cool to be able to upload your own avatars for network play, so if you could find a way to put that in it would be pretty cool.
In the Obsidian thread someone asked about this too.
I know it's possible but my network programming knowledge is very low so I don't how (sending files thru the connection) and overall is not a very high priority for the things to do.

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honestly I have no clue how I didn't learn it in kotor, must not have paid very much attention

Edit:I think I may have found a problem, either that or I just didn't figure this out, after you lose all of your money in the campaign , you can't start over, the only way I found out how to start over was to delete your player profile.

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after you lose all of your money in the campaign , you can't start over, the only way I found out how to start over was to delete your player profile.
When you fail your campaign and the Campaign button is disabled in the main menu, double-click the blue campaign stats text (the blue bit that says "defeat" or was it "failure") and it should come up with a question box asking you to reset.

After losing the "final" match, did you get a message box saying you reset by double-clicking it?

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my bad, never noticed that the first time, I just failed a campaign quick, and I noticed it, n/m
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Always had the idea of using something like IRC as a gamelobby since it's got the whole online user listing, public and private chat.
Well eXtortion is finally giving it a go:
Obsidian Thread Post

and incase you haven't checked the website or Obsidian thread, the next version is v1.1.0 where I've finally got to use the original sound files from KotOR! (granted they're 22 kHz Mono but still sound alright and u can't beat original). The sounds were in the Sounds.bif file which I never looked in till now which is why I never got to use the original files. Also added some new sounds now that they are original and no interference from other sounds. You may notice the current turn sound has half of the card dealing sound in it - not anymore!

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v1.1.0 Released

Version v1.1.0 Released

Looks like I didn't have to wait for the mid-semester break to quickly get Pure Pazaak back - probably because I forget some of the changes I wanted to make.

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- Feature: Original & more Pazaak sounds from KotOR (old ones weren't original)
- Feature: A minimize button (consider it beta)
- Fix: Updated the website URL shortcut in the Splash screen
- Fix: Data file now holds a bit more info so EXE is slightly smaller
- Fix: Save errors now have a warning displayed
- Fix: Made all For loop variables 32-bit longs (apparently register friendly)
- Fix: Changed some pulse related timings

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A bug reported on Obsidian has been fixed and v1.1.1 update is now out.

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- Fix: The busted Wager window text box
- Fix: Minimize button now match the titlebar colour (like with K2 screens)
- Fix: Minor adjustments with OO objects

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Old 09-12-2005, 02:18 PM   #38
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Hi DUFF,
I just want to say that you shouldn't never uploaded your file through filefront, thats just bull... we have to wait in line & all. There is so many other place with no wait time & upload/download limits, at least think about it please, think about us...

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OK, I've done a google and just put the file in a couple of places - obviously there'll be ads of some sort so well, take your pic (on the website).

It all depends on when you go on but I don't mind waiting 30 seconds...

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OK, I've done a google and just put the file in a couple of places - obviously there'll be ads of some sort so well, take your pic (on the website).

It all depends on when you go on but I don't mind waiting 30 seconds...
WoW your Lucky 30 sec, i've never been that Lucky in the past with FileFront...

Anyway, thank you, its appreciated

If i may add something, it seems that you didn't create a folder with all the sounds files in it in the v1.1.0(yes, i've updated it with v1.1.1) coze, when i clicked on the exe, it says that it can't found "accept.wav" but, after created a folder named sounds & puting all the sounds files in it, everything went well.


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