The Thought Box

[Kroms]

Here's where you can post a thought. You don't have to discuss a thought with someone; just a thought if you want.

I wonder who invented fashion, or trends. Instead of everyone being themselves, everyon wants to be someone else; and at some point a lot of people decided a trend X is what they wanted to be, and suddenly it was important to be like them.

[urluckyday]

I've always found that Lucasforums is awesome...

[Sven_Q45]

Originally Posted by urluckyday

I've always found that Lucasforums is awesome...

And LucasArts sucks. *I´m off*

[Kroms]

According to Hobbes, if humans didn't have government or law we'd descend into chaos. According to Rousseau, if humans didn't have government or law we'd be better-off, as society corrupts. But did neither of them think that countries are essentially people in the state of nature, fighting to dominate the top of Power Chain?

[s-island]

But Rousseau died on Lost last week!

Ok, don't read my post unless you've watched that episode.

[The Tingler]

What really annoys me about Jesus is his "holier than thou" attitude.

[urluckyday]

Star Wars is Awesome, So Is Indiana Jones...

[Kroms]

I wonder who pulled-out a potato from the ground and decided to bite it.

[Haggis]

I wonder what brought Kroms to creating this topic.

[Kroms]

I dunno. I had good ideas and then as soon as I created this topic it they were gone.

[Haggis]

Haha, well, yes, that's how it often goes. For that matter, I wonder why sometimes late in the evening I have the most fantastic ideas, and when I wake up the next morning, I completely forgot what was so wonderful about them.

[neon_git]

I wonder how the universe keeps consistantly obeying it's own rules.

[elTee]

I am addicted to pizza

[Thrik]

Still?!?

[Kroms]

I wonder why we forget our dreams as soon as we begin to talk about them.

[Thrik]

You can remember dreams for years if you write them down in the morning, man. You also remember them much more often if you do it regularly. ;

[urluckyday]

How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood.
He would chuck as much as woodchuck chucks if a woodchuck could chuck wood.

*sigh*

[CHOP-E]

I wonder who got/gave the first haircut.

[elTee]

Heh Thrik, it's a new addiction. It was kicked for years! Well, since we stopped playing worms anyway.

Also! I'm fairly certain I gave you that dream advice back in the day. Well maybe not but I do remember talking to you about it. Good times!

Bah. I just looked in the log but I couldn't find anything really good.

<elTee> Now I was running along the rooftops of buildings, trying to get into the centre of town. I remember thinking something about horses – along the lines of “I wonder if you’d be allowed to ride a horse down that road” (the road alongside the buildings I was jumping from) and thinking you might have to write to ask the council before you tried it. I also wondered how the police got their horses into the town centre, and if civilian riders would be privy to the same rights as to be able to ride them down the high-street. I’m not sure, but at one point I may even have been riding a horse, but I at least imaged one on the roof with me, because I could hear the sound of its hooves on the slate tills, and I thought it might slip off.
<elTee> I've got 8 ****ing pages of this ****
<elTee> you should do it too thriko ;
<elTee> when your recall improves you realise what ****ed up **** you dream about every night :~
<elTee> one or two online people have ****ing cropped up in mine
<elTee> last night I was driving down a freeway and gabez was in a car behind me
<Thrik> hahaha
<elTee> seriously!
<elTee> once Remi was in my kitchen

[neon_git]

I wonder how embarrassed elTee will be when he realises this is the wrong thread.

EDIT: I wonder how embarrassed I will be when I read the whole of elTee's post

[Kroms]

I wonder if racism started when the whites realised their own shortcomings when they saw the naked black men of Africa.

Originally Posted by Thrik

You can remember dreams for years if you write them down in the morning, man. You also remember them much more often if you do it regularly. ;

I'll try

[Sven_Q45]

What happens in 5 billion years? The sun "dies" the earth "burns"?
I want to see it, but we´ll never see that.

One of my biggest question: I can´t answer it myself.
How look like the world, if there is NOTHING: No world, no big beng, no nothing, no matter, not even THE NOTHING!

[Kroms]

Originally Posted by Sven_Q45

What happens in 5 billion years? The sun "dies" the earth "burns"?
I want to see it, but we´ll never see that.

One of my biggest question: I can´t answer it myself.
How look like the world, if there is NOTHING: No world, no big beng, no nothing, no matter, not even THE NOTHING!

True. But then again we've only been here for a few million and we're yet to evolve even more. I wonder if we'll adapt though?

[elTee]

Sounds like someone needs a large dose of medicine ;D

[Sven_Q45]

Lol, no seriously. That´s a big interesting question.

[elTee]

Try watching this. It's quite old now but it's an interesting idea, certainly fun when thinking about the nature of reality.

[neon_git]

Originally Posted by elTee

Try watching this. It's quite old now but it's an interesting idea, certainly fun when thinking about the nature of reality.

As I was watching that I thought, hey this seems just like Flatland (The narrator then goes on to present a portion of it practically verbatim!). Flatland deals with explaining multiple spacial dimensions rather than arbitrary "infinities". It's well worth reading if you can find it although the first half is a bit of a slog.

Originally Posted by Kroms

True. But then again we've only been here for a few million and we're yet to evolve even more. I wonder if we'll adapt though?

I'm no expert, but it seems to me that humans as a race wont evolve anymore (until society collapses anyhow). Evolution is a process which progressively makes changes to an organism so that it better suits it's environment. Human beings posses the ability to change their environment to better suit them. This means that if somebody's genes have mutated outside the norm then they will be less suited to the environments we have created for ourselves.

I know alot of people who are way smarter than me disagree but I've never seen an explanation of why.

[Kroms]

Originally Posted by neon_git

I'm no expert, but it seems to me that humans as a race wont evolve anymore (until society collapses anyhow). Evolution is a process which progressively makes changes to an organism so that it better suits it's environment. Human beings posses the ability to change their environment to better suit them. This means that if somebody's genes have mutated outside the norm then they will be less suited to the environments we have created for ourselves.

People who live in Africa have noses that are flatter than, say, mine. This is because of all the dust, and they have had to adapt to breathing in less of it. The nostrils are thus shut-in, as a process of human evolution/adaptation.

You raise a good point on us changing the environment...but at some point it'll get out of our hands. Say a nuclear war broke-out: we're essentially screwed. This is Frankenstein's monster. We can't keep on changing nature because it'll cream us.

Originally Posted by elTee

That said I know what you mean. I guess it's just that the variations are so small, and happen so slowly, that it won't be easily visible as a mutation at an individual level. But then suddenly in a few thousand years we'll all be a different shape or something.

I forgot where I read this, but apparently humanity is just the first step in a long chain of evolution. If our species survives long enough, our great X 100^(million zeroes) will be the start of an even newer species. Man my great x 100^(million zeroes) grandson will be Wolverine! :P

Originally Posted by Thrik

The only real way to survive is to simply get the hell out of here.

True.


This all being said, I do believe in God and I'm religious. I'm not saying ZOMG evolution is wrong or anything, I could write for days about this (I've done some of my homework) but I still find it oh-so annoying that science will now replace God. Ask half of the people who say that what that means and they say they have no clue. 90% of the "scientific" population are in it for the orgies, I guess.

But that's just me.

[Thrik]

We won't adapt through evolution to a sun that'll get so hot the entire surface of our planet will be melted off until it becomes a flat, featureless sphere.

Evacuation is always an answer, of course.

[elTee]

The environment we have created for ourselves is capable of sustaining most forms of life - certainly very-slightly-mutated human beings anyway. It might not have been designed for them, but then, what environment has ever been designed for a new form of life? It either adapts to the environment it is given or it dies.

That said I know what you mean. I guess it's just that the variations are so small, and happen so slowly, that it won't be easily visible as a mutation at an individual level. But then suddenly in a few thousand years we'll all be a different shape or something.

[Sven_Q45]

It happens in ca 5 billion years.

Where is bgbennyboy?

[Thrik]

Well, not quite five. It's going to take less than one billion years for the constantly rising temperatures to kill the vast majority of life on earth, and within two billion years the water will be permanently vapourised.

While we may hang on by living very deep underground and somehow coming up with an alternative to water (or simply keeping our existing stocks recycled down there), there's no way we'll reach anywhere near five billion years — nor will the planet as we know it.

The only real way to survive is to simply get the hell out of here. The only complications is: will we survive long enough to develop the technology to do so? Whether it's war or premature global warming (it's inevitably coming sooner or later), there's a lot that could take us out.