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Old 10-21-2008, 06:20 PM   #1
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RPG vs. MMORPG

Basically, is the announcement that this is an online game what you've been waiting for or is it a big disappointment? Would you have preferred what we seem to be getting, or a single player game that ties up the story from the two KotORs?

I definitely would've preferred the latter.

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Old 10-21-2008, 06:23 PM   #2
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I would have preferred both...so now I can't vote on either.


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Old 10-21-2008, 06:30 PM   #3
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Single player, definately. I'm disappointed that they seem to have cast aside all they've done for KOTOR and killed it off with just 'He's dead'.






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Old 10-21-2008, 07:14 PM   #4
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Single player, definately. I'm disappointed that they seem to have cast aside all they've done for KOTOR and killed it off with just 'He's dead'.
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Old 10-22-2008, 09:40 AM   #5
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Single player, definately.
Me too. But I'll see how this pans out.

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I'm disappointed that they seem to have cast aside all they've done for KOTOR and killed it off with just 'He's dead'.
Actually, that is something that I really like about this.

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Old 10-21-2008, 06:33 PM   #6
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I don't know man, that Yoda idea is looking like a good choice at the moment.


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Old 10-21-2008, 07:22 PM   #9
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Single Player. I have not yet used an MMO, and would regardless prefer to be free to explore the story (and mod, and cheat, and restart, etc., etc.) at my own leisure.


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Old 10-21-2008, 07:40 PM   #10
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Ever since this game was just rumors I have thought that an MMO in the KotOR Universe would be very good if done right. I do not think I can say which I would prefer, as the original KotOR is still my favorite game, but I would not argue with either.


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For me it'd be certainly singleplayer. The announcement wasn't a disappointment, though, because it was clealy expected. Still, it's far of what I truly wanted.


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Characters seem plastic or World of Warcraftish. Is this due to it being pre-alpha?
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Characters seem plastic or World of Warcraftish. Is this due to it being pre-alpha?
I wouldnt say WoWish, Id lean more towards CoHs. It looks like Superheros with everything so...plastic shiny.

And it was stated that it is all Pre-Alpha footage. So, It is not something to worry about. It is easily worse than the graphics in the original KotOR.
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I hope so. I honestly hope they don't look like that come launch day.


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^ I fear the cartoonish design may derivates from the use of the Hero engine on the game....


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Can someone explain the Hero engine please?
It would be healthier to read directly from the source.


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Old 10-21-2008, 09:55 PM   #18
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It would be healthier to read directly from the source.


On a second thought, the unreal design may very well been just an artistic choice.
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Old 10-21-2008, 09:42 PM   #19
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Uggh... Single player. Man - I don't know how well this game is going to do in the market, with all of the series fans giving it a bad wrap.

I hope some LucasArts or Bioware representative is keeping track of this pole.
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Old 10-21-2008, 11:05 PM   #20
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It doesn't matter as long as it is KOTOR 3 and not a sad fake like "the old republic" If the story were set properly, then gameplay would be just as good one way or another to me.
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Old 10-22-2008, 09:47 AM   #22
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I still would like K3 but until than I have hopes and feelings TOR will be good.


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Old 10-22-2008, 02:25 PM   #23
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I wish people would stop trying to be negative and enjoy this wonderful advancement, KoTOR I and II were wonderful but they are part of the past, and this is the present and the future. There will be much to appreciate and experience I am sure from the KoTOR world and there is every reason to appreciate it. So what they are making for us is a combination of both single and multi and you did not have a category for that so i will not vote.


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I wish people would stop trying to be negative and enjoy this wonderful advancement, KoTOR I and II were wonderful but they are part of the past, and this is the present and the future. There will be much to appreciate and experience I am sure from the KoTOR world and there is every reason to appreciate it. So what they are making for us is a combination of both single and multi and you did not have a category for that so i will not vote.

I hope it's not the future. Plenty of people still like single player games. And many people do not play MMO's. I kind of hope it tanks spectacularly so they have to make a proper SP game to recoup their losses
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... I kind of hope it tanks spectacularly so they have to make a proper SP game to recoup their losses
If it tanks, they will just bury KOTOR forever. What they need to do is learn how to LISTEN to their customers. When LA/SOE made the NGE for SWG, people on the forums told them "if these changes go live, I'm canceling all my accounts." Well, guess what. They weren't lying. Subs went way down after the NGE.

Lucasarts needs to learn to listen. The majority of players wanted KOTOR 3 with realistic graphics

Instead, they are giving us KOTOR MMO with cartoon graphics.

I mean, this was simple... K2 is finished. Now work on K3 (but give this one a little more polish). Continue and/or finish the story. We weren't asking for much. The games sold well. It's not like we were asking for a handout. We were asking for another product to buy.

Then there is the long break without any information. Rumors about an MMO start popping up. Most people on the forums say they don't want and MMO. They want K3. But Lucasarts is so darn stubborn, then pretend we don't exist.

I read when TOR is going to take place, and it all sounds good... until I remember that they can't possibly tell a great immersive story, BECAUSE it is an MMO. Too many people named Revan420 will be running around, all trying to be the main character of the server. It just doesn't work. Single player RPGs work because you are separated from the other players, and you CAN be the main character.

The sad part is they will probably make more money off of this, due to the subs. They will then feel vindicated, because that is the only way they measure success. It doesn't matter if it is a quality game or not. Lucas has a bazillion dollars. You would think that since he will never go starving, that he would be more focused on keeping his company's reputation strong, than earning every last penny he can.

I truly hope I am proven wrong, and that TOR is an awesome game. But when I saw awesome, I mean that it reminds me so much of K1 and K2 (strong story, that once gets immersed in). If it doesn't do that, I hope LA loses a lot of money on it, so more people can tell them "Don't blame us, WE wanted K3, and we told you so. You gave us something else"


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^CrisG - Umm... if KOTOR III would have been made, it would of been a lot like Mass Effect, which just so happens to be a "Present and the Future" type of game.

The last thing I want to do is go into the town, where everyone is begging for "12 MOAR PEACES OF SIBLER PLZ."

I quit WoW for a reason. MMORPG's drain money, too. Kind of depressing...
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the MMO will totally blow, I would much rather have KOTOR 3, and if I ever get the MMO it will be used as toilet paper
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Singleplayer.

Revan and the Exile are too important to just eliminate with no information.
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I don't mind an MMO aspect to the game, such as for larger events or pure socializing or for RP sessions, but I'm not really interested in a strictly MMO ala WoW.

Personally, I enjoy the KOTOR games for the single-player experience.


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Single player by far...not b/c I care bout the ongoing story...not b/c I think they couldn't get an MMO right (I think if anyone, Bioware can make a killer MMO)...it's b/c MMO's as a whole suck. Let's buy the game and then pay monthly (around 15 bucks!) to play...not a good deal at all...who knows, this could change my opinion, but don't count on it...



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Single player by far...not b/c I care bout the ongoing story...not b/c I think they couldn't get an MMO right (I think if anyone, Bioware can make a killer MMO)...it's b/c MMO's as a whole suck. Let's buy the game and then pay monthly (around 15 bucks!) to play...not a good deal at all...who knows, this could change my opinion, but don't count on it...
You don't have cable then?
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You don't have cable then?
Another downside to MMOs, while I was impressed at the ability of WoW to run over a low connection, a more powerful connection than dial-up is pretty much a requirement. I pay $60 for my connection a month, add $50 for the game, and then $15 a month, and while the base cost of the game is spread out infinitely over play time, I'm now paying 25% more on my internet bill, just for ONE game. Little much don't ya think?


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Another downside to MMOs, while I was impressed at the ability of WoW to run over a low connection, a more powerful connection than dial-up is pretty much a requirement. I pay $60 for my connection a month, add $50 for the game, and then $15 a month, and while the base cost of the game is spread out infinitely over play time, I'm now paying 25% more on my internet bill, just for ONE game. Little much don't ya think?
I wasn't talking about cable internet. I was talking about cable in general. See this is the same argument that was used against cable TV for the longest time. Why pay a monthly fee. I already paid for my TV, why would I spend money monthly to watch TV?

SWG runs on dial up. Most MMO's run over a dial up connection.
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True, but there's no denying they run BETTER over a faster connection. Opening a web page can kill your WoW connection on dial-up.


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Basically, is the announcement that this is an online game what you've been waiting for or is it a big disappointment? Would you have preferred what we seem to be getting, or a single player game that ties up the story from the two KotORs?
The original Kotor game was what brought me here to Lucasforums so many years ago. I just loved that game, I'll never forget how I felt at the spoiler moment either - totally never saw it coming lol. The second was pretty good, I didn't enjoy it as much as the first, mostly because of the way it ended.

Now to answer your question, I would have been happy either way. I love the time period. That said, I am extremely happy to have a chance to play Kotor in an online world with friends I've made from other games. Should be a great experience.

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I have fought over this for several days. I keep flipping back and forth on this issue. I finally realized what I'm feeling. The Old Republic should be made into a singleplayer game. Why? It will feel more personal to me. I love the whole premise behind this game; thus, I have been fighting over my feelings for days. I have a Jedi on one shoulder and a Sith on the other. Each are making a hard to disagree with case. Its looks like an amazing game; however, I see some very convincing cons. (1) Spending monthly costs on an internet connection and game subscription is too high for me. (2) Spending the money so an angry player can kill me while I make progress is also annoying. (3) Being bothered by other players while wanting to explore alone is also annoying. I like playing games alone in my den. I go to work everyday, and I interact with the office gang. I walk through the door after a long day, and I just want to be left alone. Games allow me to push away human contact after a long day. Massive online roleplaying games require a level of human contact; thus, I want a singleplayer game that doesn't meet that requirement. Games are my escape from life.

Does this mean that I overall hate this game? No. There is some amazing things being done; therefore, you can see the pain in my decision. Visiting Korriban once again would be great; however, I just can't get passed why I like playing games. I do it to escape from human contact. Its that simple.
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