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Old 07-06-2010, 06:10 AM   #1
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The name was Bond, James Bond.

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MGM has deep financial troubles and doesn't have the money to start producing a new part in the legendary James Bond franchise.

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MGM won't sell the rights to the franchise I suppose, so our favorite spy is retiring early.

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Old 07-06-2010, 06:24 AM   #2
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I thought that had been cancelled months ago...

Not really bothered, if i'm honest. The new Bond wasn't bad, but I never liked it as much as the classic ones.






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Old 07-06-2010, 11:43 AM   #3
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Not really bothered, if i'm honest. The new Bond wasn't bad, but I never liked it as much as the classic ones.
Same here. No one can replace Connery.

Besides, the Cold War has been over for nearly 20 years, so what's the point?


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Old 07-06-2010, 12:26 PM   #4
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Same here. No one can replace Connery.
Thirded. Connery IS Bond. No substitutions, thanks.


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The real reason is that they know they can never make a spy movie as good as Alpha Protocol.


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Old news.


But in the meantime Daniel Craig is working on the remake of GoldenEye for Wii... I guess they have to do something...

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Old 07-06-2010, 07:06 AM   #7
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Meh, I'm waiting for the new Bourne anyway :P


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Old 07-06-2010, 01:05 PM   #8
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I think the franchise will return eventually. If MGM continues to have financial troubles they will either get bought out or shutdown all together either of which will put Bond in someone else's hands. If not that they will eventually sell it to help pay off their debts.


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Old 07-06-2010, 01:11 PM   #9
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Not suprising really. So many companies are going bankrupt. However I think it's wrong to torture the fans and not sell the franchise.

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Old 07-06-2010, 04:27 PM   #10
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MGM won't sell the rights to the franchise I suppose, so our favorite spy is retiring early.
22 movies over 46 years, does not sound like early retirement to me.

I'm just happy the franchise became somewhat respectable again before fading away. Still want to poke my eyes out for watching A View to a Kill. Cannot believe Roger Moore played Bond in 32% of the Bond movies.


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Old 07-06-2010, 05:46 PM   #11
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22 movies over 46 years, does not sound like early retirement to me.
I'm just happy the franchise became somewhat respectable again before fading away. Still want to poke my eyes out for watching A View to a Kill. Cannot believe Roger Moore played Bond in 32% of the Bond movies.

Yeah, I'd tend to agree. Craig was also more in the mold of Connery (who probably should've said no to Never Say Never Again, btw) and a more worthy successor than Moore for the title of 007. Didn't hate Roger, just thought he was more pretty-boy than hardass. Didn't care from Brosnan for pretty much the same reason.


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Old 07-06-2010, 06:06 PM   #12
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Didn't care from Brosnan for pretty much the same reason.
Of course I agree, Connery was the best, but my 2nd and 3rd choices may out my bad taste. I liked Timothy Dalton and Pierce Brosnan. Dalton gets the nod because he was a very welcome changed from Moore who I liked at first, but I grew to loath him with each movie. I liked Brosnan since he was on Remington Steele and wanted him to replace Moore when Dalton got the job.


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Old 07-07-2010, 05:30 AM   #13
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I'm just happy the franchise became somewhat respectable again before fading away.
Quantum of Solace made no sense whatsoever. It really didn't; I still have no idea what the plot was, and even if I did I doubt there'd be much direction to it. People die, there's a party, more people die, there's a fire, someone else dies.

To quote Mark Kermode: Title, rubbish; taken from a story which this had nothing to do with. And I'm sorry, if you call something Quantum of Solace there needs to be a point at which you go 'oh, OK, that's a really clever thing to have called it' rather than [it making as much sense as] Pond of Wood, Fish of Trees.


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Old 07-07-2010, 10:13 PM   #14
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Quantum of Solace made no sense whatsoever
Never saw Quantum of Solace, I was speaking towards the lines of how Bond was rescued somewhat after the gadget happy days of Roger More.


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Old 07-08-2010, 06:24 AM   #15
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Never saw Quantum of Solace, I was speaking towards the lines of how Bond was rescued somewhat after the gadget happy days of Roger More.
I don't think anything Roger Moore did was quite as bad as Die Another Day


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Old 07-08-2010, 03:01 PM   #16
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I don't think anything Roger Moore did was quite as bad as Die Another Day
I don't know, A View to a Kill would give Die Another Day a good fight. Since I'm not willing to watch either of them again to judge, you win.


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Old 07-06-2010, 07:41 PM   #17
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Didn't really have a problem with Dalton as Bond, except that I wasn't really crazy about his enemies and Miriyam D'abo wasn't really hot for a bond chick (not saying ugly, btw). Dalton's 007 (like Craig's) was more Connery-like in overall attitude. I liked Moore in Live and Let Die, but by View to a Kill he just looked like he'd hung on to the part too long. Might have been interesting to see how Brosnan would have handled the part earlier on had it not been for his Steele contract.


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Old 07-06-2010, 09:26 PM   #18
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Miriyam D'abo wasn't really hot for a bond chick (not saying ugly, btw).
Her cousin Olivia was (and still is) much, much hotter!


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Old 07-06-2010, 10:28 PM   #19
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Her cousin Olivia was (and still is) much, much hotter!
Indubitably.


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Old 07-06-2010, 08:29 PM   #20
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Man, Daniel Craig is the best Bond I've ever seen.

Probably because I never saw the Connery movies.




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Old 07-06-2010, 11:59 PM   #22
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Craig is my favorite as well, and I've seen all the movies


I don't think this means the end for Bond at all, I just think it means a longer wait till the next one. I just hope it's not so far away that we won't get another movie with Craig, though that is seeming likely.


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Most of the ones I saw were with Pierce Brosnan. I thought I'd seen some good stuff. Then I saw a classic or two with Connery and it became obvious that I *clearly* hadn't seen anything but the tip of the iceberg. Those modern ones were respectable and good for today. The ones that started it were the REAL prizes.


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Seconded.

I doubt this will be the end either, but it may be a very long time before we see another installment.

I just hope the next super power laser it uses is Green.


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Old 07-07-2010, 01:08 AM   #24
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I can't imagine having to sit through countless hours of Bond films... it just doesn't interest me enough. I love Casino Royale and that's about it. Quantum was a disappointment. Goldeneye was cool but not more than that. Casino Royale was what gave me some of the tricks I use today, in poker and in life.

Though I will say, they play really crappy poker in that movie.




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I can't imagine having to sit through countless hours of Bond films... it just doesn't interest me enough. I love Casino Royale and that's about it. Quantum was a disappointment. Goldeneye was cool but not more than that. Casino Royale was what gave me some of the tricks I use today, in poker and in life.

Though I will say, they play really crappy poker in that movie.
You don't have to watch countless hours of Bond films, just watch Goldfinger at the least. I'm not saying I don't like Craig, Casino Royale was quite good, Quantum was not, but that was not so much his fault. You should also check out You Only Live Twice, if only to see azn Connery.


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You don't have to watch countless hours of Bond films, just watch Goldfinger at the least. I'm not saying I don't like Craig, Casino Royale was quite good, Quantum was not, but that was not so much his fault. You should also check out You Only Live Twice, if only to see azn Connery.
Yes, and Goldfinger has one of the best villian one-liners in the whole series, as well as a few good Bond ones.


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Yes, and Goldfinger has one of the best villian one-liners in the whole series, as well as a few good Bond ones.
Bond: "You expect me to talk Goldfinger?"
GF: "No Mr. Bond I expect you to die"


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I'm sure the third bond movie with Craig will definitely end up being the last bond movie with him... and most likely the third and final of the "origin story" that they've been going with with Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace...

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The franchise had to end sooner or later. Craig is a very good Bond but Connery will always be Bond!


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Not to mention the first Bond MILF.


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Bond: "You expect me to talk Goldfinger?"
GF: "No Mr. Bond I expect you to die"
And the 'mildly' suggestive names of the Bond Girls!!
I remember Xenia Onatop? Honey Rider was the girl on the beach right?

And yes...Moneypenny. I'll happily join MI6 if every secretary is as hot as her!

On a side note, I went out to a prom several weeks back, so I got suited up. It ended early, so me and friends moved to a normal club. The suit does draw attention from teh ladiez. RL lessons from Bond!


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And the 'mildly' suggestive names of the Bond Girls!!
I remember Xenia Onatop? Honey Rider was the girl on the beach right?

And yes...Moneypenny. I'll happily join MI6 if every secretary is as hot as her!

On a side note, I went out to a prom several weeks back, so I got suited up. It ended early, so me and friends moved to a normal club. The suit does draw attention from teh ladiez. RL lessons from Bond!
Duh. Suits represent power. It's the closest thing you get to wearing a superhero costume.

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Craig's movies have very little to do with the old school 007 movies

Quantum of Solace was a lot more of Bourne movie than a Bond movie
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I'll admit I haven't watched too many Bond movies (I remember snippets of Goldeneye, saw Die Another Day and the classic movies up until The Man With the Golden Gun, and the two Craig movies), but I think Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace could have been much better. I mean, Q and Money Penny weren't even in the movies, for starters. Just keeping in two minor characters like that would have made it better, IMO.


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^^^Well, I used to not care but when I finally saw AMC channel with a Bond-a-thon over a span of 3 weekends and seeing various episodes, all that changed. Just one of those things you don't try too hard to watch, but when you finally see it it's like a magical pleasant surprise.


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A View to a Kill was god-awful, including the title track by Duran Duran. Die another Day seems like high entertainment in comparison, but I guess that's just IMO.

Roger Moore was great for humour, for sexy ladies, for campiness. There was more humor in those Bond films, despite an air of silliness that did undermine the franchise. Only at the end, for Octopussy and A View to a Kill, was it too cheesy to take. But Chris Walken is seriously funny in AVtaK.

No more new Bonds for a while? Meh.

How about anything new from Hollywood. I would welcome something fresh to work on!


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Old 07-09-2010, 11:38 AM   #37
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Moonraker was the ultimate Roger Moore cheesefest, disco soundtrack and all.


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^^ Yeah, but the movie had Jaws in it. I was always happy, even satisfied, if Jaws was in the film.

I feel slightly simple right now with that admission....


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I should've mentioned that I enjoyed Moonraker. It was the good kind of cheesy, whereas AVtaK wasn't.


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Fix their home team score on the board to the debt clock, they can win every game 17,000,000,000,000 to 24. Losing team gets taxed by the IRS 100%, then droned."
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