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Old 02-19-2012, 06:33 AM   #1
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KOTOR III

I found this videos on youtube and i was amazed. Does anyone know about this project, or what this is? Is this some kind of fan made KOTOR 3? If yes then it is realy good.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL2uq...q3N1Tx1OPjaxmc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tePT...q3N1Tx1OPjaxmc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tePT...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEbNw...q3N1Tx1OPjaxmc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPlN4...q3N1Tx1OPjaxmc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4_x4...q3N1Tx1OPjaxmc
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Old 02-19-2012, 06:58 AM   #2
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...eeeeeeh... it's okay, but there's a better game which you can find more about here...

http://www.lucasforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=730

...and here... http://www.starwarsmmo.net/

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Old 02-19-2012, 07:10 AM   #3
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...eeeeeeh... it's okay, but there's a better game which you can find more about here...

http://www.lucasforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=730

...and here... http://www.starwarsmmo.net/
I am not going to pay 15 euro every moth just to play TOR!!
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Old 02-19-2012, 07:53 AM   #4
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I am not going to pay 15 euro every moth just to play TOR!!
You have to pay moths? On a more serious note, if you don't want to play TOR, you may be interested in a game mod being developed called KotOR: Revenge of Revan; It seems good enough to take the place of KotOR III, if K3 is never officially made.


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Old 02-20-2012, 08:58 PM   #5
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...eeeeeeh... it's okay, but there's a better game which you can find more about here...

http://www.lucasforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=730

...and here... http://www.starwarsmmo.net/
^^ This.

Coming from first-hand experience and with some skepticism going in.. I have to say that ToR is a bit unique and far from the typical MMO experience.

In all honesty, there's very little "MMO" involved.. a few flashpoints and areas, but nothing that's game/story dependent. It's probably one of the largest and longest single-player Star Wars games I've ever played (and it's a blast!)

Sure there's a subscription price.. but even if you just paid for one month or 6, you would get your money's worth.

With 8 classes, 3 tiers (or random) skillset trees PER CLASS.. there's (near) endless re-playability. Even the class stories differ... so it's not like firing up KotOR and playing the same story just with a different playstyle.

If anyone has any questions about ToR as far as SP/MMO elements or the game in general, pop a question in the links that Lynk posted. I'd bet half of the naysayers would be pleasantly surprised if you gave it a chance.. (I did).


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Old 02-21-2012, 12:11 AM   #6
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Coming from first-hand experience and with some skepticism going in.. I have to say that ToR is a bit unique and far from the typical MMO experience.
I concur, I was highly skeptical going in as a matter of fact I did not want to play it at all. Lynk talked me into because of the forum. I wanted KotOR 3, not some stupid game I had to pay a monthly charge for the pleasure to 500 Revan Jrs.

384 hours into the game and I’m sold (264 hours of those are with one character). While the Trooper has some of the same quest as the Smuggler, the class quest are different enough to make up for it. My Imp Agent, while having similar playing style as my smuggler isn't totally different quest. So around $60.00 for the game and $15.00 doesn’t seem like a bad when I consider KotOR took me about 30 hours on my first playthrough. I almost feel like I have bought 8 different games, so I'm not upset about the continued cost.

Also haven't seen any Revan Jrs running around.


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Old 02-19-2012, 07:02 AM   #7
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Looks like someone is just messing around in 3DS Max, Photoshop, After Effects, and the Unreal Toolset. I wouldn't expect to see an actual game out of it. Even if anything did ever actually appear, LucasArt's lawyers would nuke it into oblivion in a heartbeat.
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Old 03-09-2012, 08:24 PM   #8
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Even if anything did ever actually appear, LucasArt's lawyers would nuke it into oblivion in a heartbeat.
I agree. While the videos might look very cool at first, I don't think it'll be successful. Especially if there are only two to three people behind it. And they can't release anything legally with content that is owned by someone else, aka the whole star wars universe.

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Since this is from the developers of Force unleash...
This could be for the Force Unleash 3 with a more RPG element to it.
This could also be for a New Jedi Outcast/academy (Kyle) game.
Don't get me wrong, but the source states that it's an 'open-world RPG'. And the games genres (Force Unleashed and JK-series) are Action-Adventure and First/Third person shooter. If they continue one of these series (which would be pretty dope ), they wouldn't go away from Action to RPG.

On a side-note: Has anyone thought of the Star Wars Galaxies MMORPG?

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Old 02-19-2012, 07:27 AM   #9
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You don't have to pay EVERY month *looks around*

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No, but you have to pay every moth! EVERY SINGLE ONE!


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Old 02-19-2012, 01:09 PM   #11
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No, but you have to pay every moth! EVERY SINGLE ONE!
This cracked me up.

But realistically, man, I think 80% of this forum's community has spoke up in friends saying ME WANTZ KOTOR III. It doesn't change anything. Give up.


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Old 03-01-2012, 06:39 PM   #12
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This cracked me up.

But realistically, man, I think 80% of this forum's community has spoke up in friends saying ME WANTZ KOTOR III. It doesn't change anything. Give up.
Why should everyone sway to your P.O.V just because you think holding out for, or keeping hope alive for a KIII is ridiculous? Is it ridiculous for those of us here who are still wanting a Battlefront 3 or a Jedi Knight 4? Either way I more or less will be holding out (without choice in the matter) until something comes along for the 360.


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Old 02-20-2012, 06:34 PM   #13
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But ToR is like KotorIII times 100!

That's why you have to pay 100 times the price to keep playing it.

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Old 02-21-2012, 12:16 AM   #14
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To me, other than two flash-points. TOR is cool. Personally other lore and some returning locations, I didn't like the idea of Hk-47, Revan or Jedi Exile in character returning within TOR.

TOR has many good merits but it shouldn't have Revan, Hk-47 and Jedi Exile within the game.
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Old 02-21-2012, 11:01 AM   #15
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Is the combat still very much RPG oriented as well? That was one of my concerns. I loved the combat style in KOTOR II a lot! Unfortunately I've not been able to try TOR yet, I'm hugely put off by the monthly fee and plus do not have a comp that could even run it yet either.


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Old 02-21-2012, 12:06 PM   #16
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I went in to tOR with an open mind and full of excitement, and I'm no stranger to monthly fee's... but I've never been so disappointed in a game in my life, I've not had one single minute of fun, it is lifeless, watered down poop, and I wouldn't play it again even if it was free to play. I fear it will have longevity based on the name alone, so I think games that could of been (other than K III)will not be made

Edit: This is merely my Opinion, and unwavering, I do not need to lower my standards/expectations, nor group up more



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Old 02-21-2012, 12:59 PM   #17
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I went in to tOR with an open mind and full of excitement, and I'm no stranger to monthly fee's... but I've never been so disappointed in a game in my life, I've not had one single minute of fun, it is lifeless, watered down poop, and I wouldn't play it again even if it was free to play. I fear it will have longevity based on the name alone, so I think games that could of been (other than K III)will not be made

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I couldn't agree more. I played the BETA I realize it's a little different then the released version, But not that much.
It was like a reskined version of Guild Wars. Don't get me wrong. I like Guild Wars, but it was free monthly at least. I won't pay $15 a month for recycled materials.
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15 is bit much. Well I can understand why for the monthly fee but not all can afford, want or like the price per month.
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Old 02-21-2012, 03:37 PM   #19
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Recycled materials? Not really sure I understand that, I haven't seen any recycled materials in TOR and like I wrote I'm almost 400 hours into it.

Way I figure it, I have played TOR for round 60 days now (not including the beta). 60.00 (game price) + 15.00 =$75.00 (the first 30 days comes with the game. 75/384=.20 per hour... Tell me what entertainment you can get for 20 cents per hour? Sounds pretty cheap to me...

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Old 02-24-2012, 05:52 PM   #21
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Why must people continue to tempt and tease with KOTOR III?

The videos look nice, and the dubbing of Atton Rand almost fooled me. The menu especially is a nice rendition, but it seems like more of the same stuff we've seen over the last 8 years since TSL came out. KOTOR III, as much as I hate to admit it, is not going to happen. It might be time to move on.
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Why must people continue to tempt and tease with KOTOR III?

The videos look nice, and the dubbing of Atton Rand almost fooled me. The menu especially is a nice rendition, but it seems like more of the same stuff we've seen over the last 8 years since TSL came out. KOTOR III, as much as I hate to admit it, is not going to happen. It might be time to move on.
Well, that may be true, but some people work on massive content mods (i know this isn't the place for that) that could be the equivilant of kotor 3 (all the modules will be reused, but its about the story)


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Old 02-28-2012, 04:03 PM   #23
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Guys! This could be it! I don't know about you but we've been asking for so long this could be it:
http://sillegamer.com/2011/09/28/luc...november-2011/

Spread the Word!!!!!
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Guys! This could be it! I don't know about you but we've been asking for so long this could be it:
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I've heard about this myself but it could any number of games, most probably a jedi knight or battlefront sequel.

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Struck a nerve did I? You don't need to get your panties in a bunch just because someone's opinion stifles your wet dreams.

If you'll read my previous posts...none of my wording was hostile, or even negative. I expressed my own desire for a KOTOR III, but followed it with my opinion that it might be time to bury a dead topic.
I think maybe someone struck one of your nerves, have a look round on LF and it might come to your attention that people here don't flame everyone for no apparent reason. Your entitled to your opinion just as much as everyone else is but you don't need to get all aggressive, unless you want the fast road to being banned.

However, reading your recent posts consular, it seems that you've decided to be a bit more courteous, so I don't mean to be mean but maybe you need to think through what you're saying before you say it.


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Old 02-28-2012, 08:35 PM   #25
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Since this is from the developers of Force unleash...
This could be for the Force Unleash 3 with a more RPG element to it.

Even if this game is based between kotor2 and TOR...it won't be centered around Revan. It would be a new story with possible reference to kotor2 characters except Exile.

This could also be for a New Jedi Outcast/academy (Kyle) game.

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Hm. Maybe with what little tidbits were there by Obsidian, Lucas decided to beat the dead horse one more time for profits. Again.

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Old 03-01-2012, 09:03 AM   #31
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Just because it's LucasArts doesn't necessarily mean it's a Star Wars RPG, but we can hope. As long as it's not a Indiana Jones RPG I will probably be very excited about it.


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Just because it's LucasArts doesn't necessarily mean it's a Star Wars RPG, but we can hope. As long as it's not a Indiana Jones RPG I will probably be very excited about it.
I'll have to agree. I'm hoping its starwars, if it is it's probobly their way of shutting up the fans who wanted a star wars rpg (kotor 3) and it would shut me up for a while hehe

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The ones in the first post, though thats proboly fake oh well, wont stop me hoping


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The ones in the first post, though thats proboly fake oh well, wont stop me hoping
It looks like a fallout mod, or rather someone just playing around with it. At least I think it's fallout - I've never played.

Oh, and on the topic, I'd love to see just about any new single-player SW title for the next-gen systems. Is it just me or has it been like 10 years? TFU is the only one I can think of. I thought it was fun, but really forgettable.

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Ziost, it certainly was not my intention to put myself on a pedestal above others. I'm really trying to extend an olive branch here. I spoke out of turn. It is my opinion that a KOTOR III will not happen, and that to keep discussing it at this time is pointless. Not foolish as you thought I indicated, which might seem like I'm splitting hairs to save myself, but I do not consider those who still actively hope for a KOTOR III to be fools. I think they are wrong, but I do not think they are unintelligent. Again though, its an opinion, everyone has one and I don't expect anyone here to change just because it is what I say. I'm just one individual who has played KOTOR games and enjoyed them thoroughly. I'm not an expert, I do not work for LA, or any company which has been or might ever be involved with production or development of any KOTOR game.

To your second point, yea my friend and I have an odd relationship. I consider him to be like a brother. Although we often rip on each other to the extreme.


On your third point, yea you got me. SWTOR is not a sequel to KOTOR, but when I said pseudo-KOTOR III I meant it in the context that because of SWTOR's mere existence, I think it further supports the idea that a KOTOR III will not happen. So for all intents and purposes, this is the closest thing we will get to a KOTOR III. Again, its what I think. But, leaving 300 years in between KOTOR I and II and TOR does leave a nice buffer for the possibility of a game in the interim, who knows?
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You are correct. Basically what happened is I made a dick comment, and people here called me on it.
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You are correct. Basically what happened is I made a dick comment, and people here called me on it.
It's ok, I've done it myself before without even meaning to. It just pi***s people off when people just come on the forums to greif everyone.

Anyway, to get back onto topic, has anyone heard anything else about this game christos brought up? It looks quite interesting.


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For me, the fact that Bioware/LA developed a game within the overall KOTOR genre but was not a KOTOR III says to me that any remaining likelihood of a KOTOR III occurring is greatly diminished if not destroyed entirely. Which means that we will likely never get a physical manifestation in RPG video-game format of what happened in the storyline immediately following TSL with regards to Revan, the Exile, and the party characters from the first two games. I would sort of compare it to reading the first two Tolkien novels in the LOTR trilogy with the third book never being released. I never got to experience the end of the arc, and never got any sort of closure. Although TOR does not have much to do with this lacking of closure directly (except for the tidbits of info on the Exile and the scenes with Revan) its mere existence in my estimation is a reminder of how I will never see that closure.

Besides those feelings, I also dislike TOR because of its MMORPG format. I'm a KOTOR fanboy, and I like to think that the story I developed playing KOTOR and TSL was as much uniquely mine as possible. That feeling gets lost (at least to me) somewhat when completing a quest I see another real player in the game, especially when they have a vulgar screen name (ex: something like...luvs2splurge; well this is not that vulgar but I think you get the point). This occurs a lot, especially during my short tenure playing WoW. That atmosphere makes the game feel arcadey to me and lessens the experience of the game. It serves as a reminder that this is not a thrilling story that I'm creating with my choices and actions, but just a video game filled with other real people doing the exact same thing. Obviously, with every video game this is the case, but I don't see that when playing RPG's like Skyrim, KOTOR, Mass Effect etc. The only characters I encounter are NPC and the only real person they react to is me. For a story-driven game, I prefer that dynamic.

I've never played TOR, it might be a very good game on its own merit (as proven by the many who play it), but for what it does to the canon of Revan and the Exile, and because it is a KOTOR game in MMORPG format I dislike it.
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Besides those feelings, I also dislike TOR because of its MMORPG format.
Can't argue with that...

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I'm a KOTOR fanboy, and I like to think that the story I developed playing KOTOR and TSL was as much uniquely mine as possible.
That makes sense to me too, but are you sure this isn't a argument for not making KOTOR III. I mean if they make a third game, wouldn't they have to use a default choices (canon Revan and canon Exile)? Wouldn't that make your story's uniqueness moot?

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That feeling gets lost (at least to me) somewhat when completing a quest I see another real player in the game, especially when they have a vulgar screen name (ex: something like...luvs2splurge; well this is not that vulgar but I think you get the point). This occurs a lot, especially during my short tenure playing WoW. T
That happens zero, none nought, nil with TOR for me, why because; 1. TOR controls what names can be used. 2. You can turn off name plates. 3. Sure some quest you will see people also doing the quest, but many of the important and class quest you get your own instance, so there is no one else around unless you are doing the quest with a group of friends.

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For a story-driven game, I prefer that dynamic.
Again, can't argue with that, but TOR gave me that. No clue about other MMOs, like WOW, have not played them, but my understanding is that unlike TOR they are not story driven.

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but for what it does to the canon of Revan and the Exile, and because it is a KOTOR game in MMORPG format I dislike it.
I feel the same way, but then I would feel the same way about a KOTOR III RPG if my playthroughs of KOTOR and TSL meant nothing and they went with canon Revan and canon Exile.
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