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Old 06-20-2003, 08:28 AM   #41
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What do you mean by air quotes, Neil? When people "write" sentences like this? Just curious.

That's the best use of the English language, man. Now, people who "do" little air quotes in real life are the worst. ¬
Actually I meant the latter cause i can't actually see the frigging air quotes in messenger. If they type it, then it's okay.
And about the George Orwell, yes he was the first to say it, but that inspired a book which inspired the Tv show.

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Old 06-20-2003, 12:42 PM   #42
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Neil, Oystein's right, and you're wrong. 1984 by George Orwell is the book.
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Old 06-20-2003, 01:07 PM   #43
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Oh, just to clarify, the idea of Big Brother came from a book by the same name which talked about the government watching us all the time, sort like in 'Enemy of the State'. The TV show by the same name with locked up people, the inventor of that should be killed. Never read the book, but I'm pretty sure the person who wrote it didn't want to sprout this spawn of television satan.
George Orwell's fantastic novel 1984 has nothing to do with that appalling tripe the call programming. The only link between them is that the all powerful leader in 1984 is called big brother.

The book has nothing to do with attention grabbing losers being locked up in a house for a few months.

Orwell is dead anyway, and digging him up to do him further injury might be distasteful work.
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Old 06-20-2003, 02:04 PM   #44
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Okay, yeah, I was wrong (and never actually said Oystein was wtrong) as I got my facts wrong, yes, Orwell did write the book. But i must say that even though it was a great book, it did inspire the idea behind Big Brother the TV show, although that was inadvertantly. Orwell never meant for a crappy TV show to start. In 1984, the insidious order is known as "Big Brother," a personification of the regime that both demands and ensures absolute loyalty and obedience from all of its citizens. This 8is what inspired the TV show as obviously, all people in the house are under direct order of 'Big Brother'
Also, perhaps the most often-discussed component to Big Brother´s control is the use of the telescreens, television-like gadgets installed in every home that act as surveillance devices and keep track of who is obeying and who is not. Winston, skeptical of Big Brother, but unsure of who or what to trust, tries to find ways of resisting the state´s coercive power, and asserting his individuality. But Big Brother is watching. Obviously the idea behind all of the cameras in the house. I am not insulting the fantastic book by linking it with the Tv show, but it is quite evident that this is what inspired the show. Orwell is probably spinning in his grave and for that I'm sorry.

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Old 06-22-2003, 04:42 AM   #45
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You're right Neil. The links between the book and the show are greater than I admitted in my previous post.

I wonder if the beneficiaries of Orwell's estate are being paid anything.

Poor George.
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Old 06-22-2003, 01:14 PM   #46
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Anyone in a black sitcom - You know the ones I mean, the ones that only have black people in and any white people are the stupid and/or annoying comedy sidekicks, and seem to think a joke's humour is directly proportional to the volume of which you say it. 'Smart Guy' actually sometimes parodies these quite well, sometimes, but is still included in this catagory because I hate his face.

Anyone that works for EdExcel - They made countless mistakes in our GCSE Science textbooks, and some in our specimin exam papers too.
and also, yes, Jamie Oliver's book was part of my GCSE English exam. i cried. We had an extract of his autobiography or whatever in our unseen text, and we had to compare it to a cookery book from 1940. I spent all the time cussing down his "colloquial" and "unproffessional" style of writing.

Disney - The Little Mermaid 2 was a crime against humanity.


Hmm. I'm sure I'll think of more later. I'm not hateful enough right now. I'll go watch some Nickelodian or Disney Channel.


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Old 06-22-2003, 04:52 PM   #47
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Anyone in a black sitcom - You know the ones I mean, the ones that only have black people in and any white people are the stupid and/or annoying comedy sidekicks, and seem to think a joke's humour is directly proportional to the volume of which you say it. 'Smart Guy' actually sometimes parodies these quite well, sometimes, but is still included in this catagory because I hate his face.

Disney - The Little Mermaid 2 was a crime against humanity.


Hmm. I'm sure I'll think of more later. I'm not hateful enough right now. I'll go watch some Nickelodian or Disney Channel.
I agree to a certain degree (on both). PLease note that many american sitcoms these days feature both black and white people now except friend which never did and will and grace which is crap. A long time ago, Happy Days would have never dreamt of having a black man on the show (as a regular) and so to come back with this, they had the cosby show and all the other black comedies (remember, fresh prince was also parodying this whole thing). But please remember, the cosby show had respected white people on all th time, and I won't even start with different strokes.

And with Disney, I never saw The Little Mermaid 2 but I hate all there sequals anyway because the basically make sure you know that sequels can never be as good as the original. Saying that, I for one would like to put my head (and possible any other body parts) on the line as saying that the originals are always in my opinion brilliant. The Little Mermaid was meant for little girls, true, but hell, I just love it. The Lion King, Aladdin, Tarzan, can't beat em. And you could all find faults with all of them making you all hate them, but hey, I don't give a flying rats arse. If you think that they are too much for kids and never having any mature content, take a leaf out of Touchstones book.

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Old 06-22-2003, 08:51 PM   #48
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I agree with Mort, although I would like to combine both of his choices into one, more apalling televisual genre that should be cut into little pieces (metaphorically speaking): kids shows that promote moral values.

They always learn that "sharing is good" or that "everybody is special", and they're usually created by Disney. These "values" are usually just completely unfounded though, and the worst thing about them are the completely stereotypical and apallingly politically correct characters that kind of make children worse off.

They have to have a "mandatory black kid", who is just the BEST ATHLETE EVER. Then they have to include a girl, to show that sexism is bad in the playground. And they always have the smartest kid in the world, who is more intelligent than anyone ever and builds giant robots that help them to be all ethical. And then they usually pick a few characters from the rest of the line-up, which generally include the obese kid, the bully, the scaredy-cat, the kid-who-tells-on-people, the stupid kid, the horribly disfigured kid... take your pick.

A general rule of thumb with Disney films is to not ever view any that went straight to video. They're generally the exact same story featuring the children of the main character in the original film, with roles reversed and ****tier music etc. etc.
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Old 06-22-2003, 09:08 PM   #49
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Scabb, you reminded me of what the Maths books are like. They always have an example group consisting of a member of every minority in the world. Non racist, non sexist. Example:

"Henry, Jacques, Jacinta, Helena, a dog and a cat are playing poker. THEY ALL HAVE AN EQUAL CHANCE OF WINNING. What is the probability that they all get three of a kind?"

Etc.


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Old 06-22-2003, 10:23 PM   #50
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Whoever Thought Of Making "The GodFather III"
I liked one and 2 but 3 man if you've seen 3 theres probably only one good part in that whole movie and then the rest is bull.

Pedafiles (I have no idea how to spell it)
If someone lined them all up, i mean every single one of them in the world and gave me some magical gun with nlimated ammo or a sord i would kill every single one of them in a split second.

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He hated the movie "O Brother, Where Art Thou?" and i just can't stand for that .

Paula Abdul
I don't think she had an opinion about the singers in any episode of American Idol, all she said was, yeah i have to agreee with these guys or Hmmmmmmmmmmm.....well..........Randy?


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Old 06-22-2003, 11:10 PM   #51
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Mario Brothers (the movie) and everyone involved with it- need I say more

Hackers- But don't tell anyone I hate this movie, or someone might send me the cookie monster virus.


WE HAVE TO STOP THEM!!!!!!!
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Old 06-23-2003, 07:31 AM   #52
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Anyone in a black sitcom - You know the ones I mean, the ones that only have black people in and any white people are the stupid and/or annoying comedy sidekicks, and seem to think a joke's humour is directly proportional to the volume of which you say it. 'Smart Guy' actually sometimes parodies these quite well, sometimes, but is still included in this catagory because I hate his face.

Disney - The Little Mermaid 2 was a crime against humanity.


Hmm. I'm sure I'll think of more later. I'm not hateful enough right now. I'll go watch some Nickelodian or Disney Channel.
Black Sitcoms= White Sitcoms .. since i got an color tv .. i watch it in stereo and color. stupid stuff is seen everywhere on tv. did someone ever watch roseanne?

if you dont like mermaid 2 dont watch it or dont let your children watch.

there are many interesting things that can be seen on disney and nickelodeon. you just dont have to watch the crap ..


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Old 06-23-2003, 08:13 AM   #53
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As this thread is quickly turning serious, I figured I might as well mention the one group of people I really hate:

Patriots. Abolishing patriotism will society's greatest achievement to date, if it happens. and I think it will, because of the internet. Patriotism strings a country together and tries to hang it up above all other countries, and every country does this. Patriotism is either the cause of wars, or at the very least the general support for war. The 'war on terror' is a perfect example, though it makes no difference what country the patriot is from.
Patriotism also prevents progression. Although there are several good reasons why Britain should not to join the Euro, most of the opposition is just patriotic "I'm british and the pound is British and I'll be less british without the pound!!11" garble.
Yes, although patriotism can bind a country together against a domestic matter, like China's 'War on SARs', more often than not it is used to look superior to all other countries and makes a mockery of the other more sensible people that live in the same country.

Also, hating one single country is just as silly as loving one single country, in my book. Love all countries equally. Or hate them equally.


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Old 06-23-2003, 08:28 AM   #54
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gee. if mankind will ever understand..?????

there may be 1 million of countries .. it's still 1 planet.

all that discussion is so stupid. we owe OUR CHILDRENS a future guys. not f*****n nothing but hateNstuff.
hey and if someone would kill my mother or hurt my little daughter .. then i dont care WHERE he comes from or which color his eyes got.. hey that guy will come down real fast and than he will never gonna have a happy thought again for the rest of his very painful NOTlife.


harrrrrr.



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Old 06-23-2003, 03:12 PM   #55
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Old 06-23-2003, 06:55 PM   #56
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There are two different type of partriotism though. A friend of mine supports our towns football team even though he knows full well they suck. They finished bottom of the league (although he would have been ecstatic if they'd come second to bottom) and he knows they'll never do any better, but he still goes to all of their games (or most at least) and supports them whole heartedly without supporting any other teams simply because their not his home team. That's true patriotism right there.

But I agree with Mort, sometimes it does hinder us and makes us snobbish to other countries. If we started using the euro, I wouldn't care much. Sure, I'll have to learn to use a new currency and all, and that would be annoying, but hell, a couple of years and it would be common place, it'll bring europe closer together rather than have us alienated from the rest of europe like we seem to be.

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Old 06-23-2003, 07:21 PM   #57
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I wouldn't call supporting a crappy football team 'true patriotism'. British patriotism doesn't usually extend beyond waving a British flag at a football game, the only negative result being those idiot football yobs. 'True patriotism' is supporting your country and be willing to die for your country for no reason other than the fact that you happened to be born there. This also leads on to judging people based simply on their nationality, and such prejudice disgusts me. Are they really people I want to kill? Well, I think the mindless patriotism as seen in the World War 2 and Cold War-era are greatly on the decline from what I see, which I think is fantastic. Killing all patriots would speed up that process, but it's not necessary. Not yet.


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Old 06-23-2003, 08:26 PM   #58
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Old 06-24-2003, 07:44 AM   #59
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I wouldn't call supporting a crappy football team 'true patriotism'. British patriotism doesn't usually extend beyond waving a British flag at a football game, the only negative result being those idiot football yobs. 'True patriotism' is supporting your country and be willing to die for your country for no reason other than the fact that you happened to be born there. This also leads on to judging people based simply on their nationality, and such prejudice disgusts me. Are they really people I want to kill? Well, I think the mindless patriotism as seen in the World War 2 and Cold War-era are greatly on the decline from what I see, which I think is fantastic. Killing all patriots would speed up that process, but it's not necessary. Not yet.
Well, there was a slight hint of humour there, but not much as real patriotism is rarely seen these days. So rare infact that the bar has to be lowered a bit to what I explained. He is not willing to die for this football team, but he shows up anyway, in rain or shine (actually he's pretty lazy so probably not). It may not be the patriotism we saw hundreds of years ago where people died for theirmonarch not because they like the monarch, but because they loved the country, but we'll probably never see that again, so it's as cose as we're going to get. I applaud him (actually I take the piss out of him all the time, but it's all in fun and he knows it).

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dont twist being a football, soccer, anythingfan with patriotism. in fact of being a bunch of (sometimes international) guys there in a team this cant be patriotism at all.

patriotism is ment for being proud of the country where you were born.. something like we are the best country .. blahblah like that.

but this starts in small villages, then come the bigger ones, states, countries.. i mean it is stupid.. yeah i am from Hamburg, Germany and i am f-in better than you. because you are only from Berlin, Germany ..

HOW STUPID IS IT TO THINK LIKE THAT!

You can only be better by doing better. and if you once done better than this does NOT mean you will do better from now on for ever.

.. .. this sucks


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Old 06-24-2003, 09:10 AM   #61
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weee. my faouvorite subject.

Punishment, revenge and such also is stupid.

"We need punishment too keep people from commiting crimes" seems to be the most common argument and it's just embarrasing (spelling?) since it's already proven that it does not work. In medieval times there were totally tortureish punishment for many crimes. Did people stop commiting crimes?


I think most criminals are sure they are going to get away with it... And the rest don't have a choice.


Nationalism and penalism must die.


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Old 06-24-2003, 09:13 AM   #62
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Hackers

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people not do crimes because there will be punishment or not. ..

its a mental problem.

as long as there are religious, social and whatelse IDEALS .. there is no help for it.

People prefer to say it's not my fault god must have done this .. or crap like that.
Hey i just saw that IRAQI SOLDIER on tv. He was up to clean and fold and iron his clothes. And his VERY only comment (he seemed to be veryvery concerned about this): dont tell my wife that i am doing this here. So next point is that man over woman OR woman over man attitude. Both are damn bloody wrong.

And there is more. But it all ends up in a definition of senseless "historical" waste.

Then there are these people saying: we didnt need it in the past, we dont need it now. Then they give an example like "i dont need mobilephone to call or message anyone from anyplace, i can do this from home! "
Yeah, particially he may be right. But if i am on the way and im growing to be daddy, then i would feel ( oh yes indeed, i felt much easier!) much easier with the knowledge of being reachable every second of time ..

So inventions are never useless. (like they try to make us believe)..

We must start believing in our own power as the 'intergalactical' species we are.

but society is changing.. and with some luck and muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch time..


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Old 06-24-2003, 01:30 PM   #64
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dont twist being a football, soccer, anythingfan with patriotism. in fact of being a bunch of (sometimes international) guys there in a team this cant be patriotism at all.
Okay, no need to be so serious here, I wasn't. Unless you didn't notice, this isn't the most serious of topics (oh scabb's serious, you know he want's to kill all these people). I wasn't nessecarily joking, only talking on the humour side of things in saying that this football fan is a patriot. I know for a fact that he's not and i know what patriotism means (the love of his/her own country to be specific), but sometimes big words can be used to describe small things in order to show how big this small thing can be. I use the word patriot to show how much this guy loves his team.

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I use the word patriot to show how much this guy loves his team.
.. i wasnt that serious .. just wanted to point at the difference between patriotism and FANism (fan comes from FANATIC .. ?)..

.. words just have the meaning WE give them ..


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that's exactly what i'm trying to say, but we give them new meanings all the time. patriot means to love ones home country, but we use it in everyday language as to love a home town o maybe something smaller.

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There should be some kind of award...

Kvasi-intellectual internet community of the year..... Mojo would win every year no doubt.


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Old 06-25-2003, 12:57 PM   #69
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The Harbour wins that, hands down.


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also!
People that, when you tell them something, they respond with 'really?' or 'did you?'.

Like
"Hello."
"Hello!"
"I went to town yesterday."
"Did you?"
"Yes. I bought socks."
"Really?"
"..yes. The socks are blue."
"Are they really?"
"...yes...I like these socks"
"Wow, really?"
"...."
"Really?"
"*gunshot*"


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I'd like to kill Bill Gates for allowing this abombination to plague the xbox. DAMN YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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What?!? You have to collect power-ups to be able to gallop?

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I agree. Games where you ride horses are cool (Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Little Big Adventure), but needing power-ups before you can gallop? That's like those bull**** Jedi Knight games that make you wait until you're four levels in before giving you a bloody lightsaber.
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Old 07-18-2003, 12:39 PM   #75
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There are just so many people I hate that if I tried to list them all I'd forget someone. But here's a sample
  • People who say "Cheer up it might never happen" It usually has happened.
  • People who say "At least you've got your health"
  • Newsreaders
  • The royal family
  • Royal Correspondents
  • Mothers on the school run in 4x4s.
  • Moaning Old people.
  • Smelly old people.
  • etc etc
And that's just the start. I'll post more when I remember it.
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