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Old 10-05-2003, 03:20 AM   #41
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Taking life too seriously, eh? And this is a two page thread containing a heated argument concerning the name of another forum which is a sub-forum of another forum of a site called LucasForums which is about 0.00001% or the Internet, which is a moderately small part of our society, which is part of this planet, which is so infinitely small that it really doesn’t matter at all in the grand scheme of the universe, which is probably only one of an infinite amount of other parallel universes which alltogether makes up something that the human mind can't even comprehend.

Dude, put it into perspective. ;;
Then why care about ANYTHING that happens in life at all?
Certainly not a forum name being changed... or even spending the time, effort, or energy it takes to GET the forum name changed in the first place.

It's pretty obvious to all involved that the forum name change signifies SOMETHING,.. otherwise nobody would ever bother to do it.
What's not exactly clear is the message or the lesson we are all supposed to glean from this effort.


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Old 10-05-2003, 08:57 AM   #42
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Sure, I read it. And your point is? This has nothing to do with the admins, so "bringing it to their attention" is completely unnecessary.
And who are they supposed to talk to about retitling the forum, the Almighty? Just once I'd like to see you explain the administration's policies to the members without being utterly full of crap.

Groovy: Hmm. They are being a bit boorish, aren't they? 'Thrik' it is!

Everyone has upset me so thoroughly that I almost forgot my new title idea: 'Monkeyshines.' Hmph.
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Old 10-05-2003, 09:12 AM   #43
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... all this over a forum name change. Days and days of posts, spanning over multiple pages.

It really is sad.


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Old 10-05-2003, 01:44 PM   #44
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... all this over a forum name change. Days and days of posts, spanning over multiple pages.

It really is sad.


Yep, ya got my support on this one. WTF?
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Old 10-05-2003, 02:12 PM   #45
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Cool Guy rastamaan on tha moon ya..



and still noone said hey.. yes.. as you may have noticed we changed this subforums name to 'life and how to live it' because we though it .. [nice cool story here] .. we hope you all come along with this change .. yadayadayada ..

naja. uncool in some way, not bothering though ..


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Old 10-05-2003, 02:25 PM   #46
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... all this over a forum name change. Days and days of posts, spanning over multiple pages.

It really is sad.
Feel free to ignore this thread then.
Nobody's forcing you to read it.

By the way, your posting to it isn't making it any shorter...

Personally, I don't care what the forum is called. I'm just curious as to the "why?" of the whole thing. It's really not that much time out of my day to come here occasionally and see if anyone has bothered to enlighten us all.


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Old 10-05-2003, 03:20 PM   #47
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Isn't it obvious?

The real reason the name was changed was to give you all more purpose and direction on these forums, and look how active it's made you.

It's all part of a master plan


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Old 10-05-2003, 05:32 PM   #48
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Re: rastamaan on tha moon ya..

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and still noone said hey.. yes.. as you may have noticed we changed this subforums name to 'life and how to live it' because we though it .. [nice cool story here] .. we hope you all come along with this change .. yadayadayada ..
Something that was fully intended right up until someone came along and decided to complain about it. Seriously, we simply didn't have time; it went straight from name change to complaint with hardly an hours notice. And please note a certain member may have seen the name change before the mods knew it had been don’t because it was the admins who did it. And this certain member may have decided that with no explanation present in the time of change to when the certain member logged on, we must be messing with you.

Now, we kind of see no point in an explanation, you all seem to be content in the fact that we did it to annoy you, so we'll just go with that now shall we?

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Old 10-05-2003, 05:54 PM   #49
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life and how to live it?

and the description is a little too...descriptive....




posted here

although this might be not the form of a question concerning the name change i think it expresses somehow the notice of a name change and somehow could be seen as "hello new name of 'our' favorite forum.. now mateys.. what do you say?".. but it is no complain about anything.
and of course the question after a why etc. had to be asked.. but it took only a few crappy replies by some bunchies to turn it into on of those discussions that we all dislike so much. so just one had to show up, post the "correct" answer (what i said before) and the could have closed the thread because it would had fulfilled its purpose. but none of this happend. and this is crap again because now you are blaming us for the results and not the resposibles.

i wish i could say
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closed. all closed.


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Old 10-05-2003, 06:17 PM   #50
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I'm not blaming you for the name change, in fact although I had no part in it, I take full responsibility because you all like someone to target youre abuse on so bring it on.

And I'm not blaming you or Mole for complaining, that was pretty much the mi community in general.
In fact, i'm not blaming you at all, the above statement by me was directed at everyone who likes to complain before they explain (I'm writing that on down) and before they've given us a chance to explain ourselves.

No, it's not your fault at all, you seem to be on our side about this, at least partly which I would say is very diplomatic of you. But a while ago, everyone hated us for closing a thread. Now we're hated for changing a name.

If I start a new interesting thread, will you all string me up by my thumbs, because it looks that way.

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i never complained about anything...i just came here and asked about the name change, and i guess it just happened to be before a mod got here to explain it or something. the only reason(s) i didn't wait was because:

1) i found it to be really weird and had to say something
2) the thought of someone coming to explain it of their own free will didn't cross my mind
3) even if i did think of that, it would've seemed completely absurd to me and i would've posted anyway.

as you can see, it was a lose-lose situation (?) either way. ...?



and even though people may have "hated" you for closing a thread, nobody's hating anybody now...we're just wondering. and the only thing that anybody that might have a clue about it has said was: "stop complaining", "who cares?" and/or "it's just a name change", "put it into perspective", "it doesn't matter", etc.

i don't know why nobody can just give an answer instead of dodging around the subject. and i think the only reason anybody is trying to divert our attention away from the topic is because nobody really had a reason for changing it to begin with.

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... all this over a forum name change. Days and days of posts, spanning over multiple pages.

It really is sad.
what do you mean "all this"? it's not like any of us are blowing our heads off about this, we just want to know why...it's not that sad. what's sad is that you really felt the urge to come in here and make a post giving us information that was already obvious

anyway...i'm just waiting for an answer as to why the name change even occured in the first place.

btw- rayjones, nice sig....
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Old 10-06-2003, 03:02 AM   #53
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... all this over a forum name change.
"All this" meaning I spent 3 minutes typing at full speed requesting an answer to a question.

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and even though people may have "hated" you for closing a thread, nobody's hating anybody now...we're just wondering. and the only thing that anybody that might have a clue about it has said was: "stop complaining", "who cares?" and/or "it's just a name change", "put it into perspective", "it doesn't matter", etc.

Hear Hear.


And I KNOW that a person that has the Monkey Island discussion in mind enough to change a name has scrolled across this page at least once, looked at the question, and (evidentially) said "Eh. They don't need to know." This is another reason why I keep asking my question. It makes me curious.

If someone comes up and says

"I did it. I was bored, and thought it would be fun" I would reply with...
"M'kay."

No anger. Nothing of the sort. Just a 16 year old curious boy with enlightment on his mind.

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Old 10-06-2003, 09:17 AM   #54
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Fine, you want a clear and concise answer to why we changed the name?

Fine

Because we wanted to. That's it, no hidden agender or deeper meaning. We just changed it.

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Old 10-06-2003, 10:34 AM   #55
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No hard feelings Neil,.. but anyone who has even been casually following the recent history in and around the MI Discussion boards should have been able to predict the general reaction from the regulars concerning a forum name change with no warning/ explanation.


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Old 10-06-2003, 01:49 PM   #56
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Fine, you want a clear and concise answer to why we changed the name?

Fine

Because we wanted to. That's it, no hidden agender or deeper meaning. We just changed it.
so you decided to change the name because you just want to..

okay..

but.. () .. what's the idea behind the new name..? ..or is it because you just wanted to get rid of the old name, wrote down a few (internal) suggestions and then gave polly a cookie and order to PICK on of those.. i mean this would be cool and if polly really was involved we would have our MI connect and the name would be totally acceptable just because of that!!
brraaaak!



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Old 10-06-2003, 03:08 PM   #57
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Then why care about ANYTHING that happens in life at all?
Why indeed.
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Old 10-06-2003, 05:28 PM   #58
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No hard feelings Neil,.. but anyone who has even been casually following the recent history in and around the MI Discussion boards should have been able to predict the general reaction from the regulars concerning a forum name change with no warning/ explanation.
Either you're suggesting that I hane not followed the recent history of the mi discussions, which is ridiculouse because I have eben a big part of it, or you are suggesting that I am foolish for changing the name because of the recent history.

Firstly, I would like to say that this is rich coming from someone who clearly has even read the previosu posts in this thread let alone a lot of the recent history of this place otherwise you would hyave rephrased you post a hell of a lot.

Secondly, I would like to point out that this entire discussion is somewhat of an enigma to me as to how it turned into this considering it started out as a thread to choose a name, hence community involvement. This suddenly turned into a huge argument about why it was changed in the first place. Please note, unless four men on horses come around the corner with flames and war cries, I'm pretty certain that nothing too drastic has happened here. I seem to notice that a few regulars around here have been trying to keep this thread going on the right track. Others, simply haven't, and turned it into this.

You said that no warning or explanation was issued here. I already exaplined why there was no explanation, but, hey ho, some people coundn't wait to start talking about it. What am I to do, come along and say 'Hey, by the way, we changed the name of the harbor' in the thread already expressing that, created by another forum member. Basically, Moles thread wasn't even a complaint, if anything, it was simply stating the fact that the name had changed. You were'nt told by some mod like me, you were told by Mole. Not much of a difference really.

Thirdly. I see nothing wrong with Life and How to Live it. No seriously, what's it meant to suggest? How is it bad? So it's not youre perfect choice for a forum name, especially in the monkey island discussions forum. fine, we appreciate that. how about a thread asking everyone what they would like- oh, no wait, we already tried that now didn't we? What would you suggest then?

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Old 10-06-2003, 09:43 PM   #59
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Ok I seriously liked the name, Years of friend history under "The Harbor" erased by a click of a button.

And to whomever saud it induces bad spelling. "harbor" is correct in America.
They could rename it "The Harbour" that be cool.


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Either you're suggesting that I hane not followed the recent history of the mi discussions, which is ridiculouse because I have eben a big part of it, or you are suggesting that I am foolish for changing the name because of the recent history.
No, I'm suggesting that the reaction over the sudden, unexpected name change really should have been fairly predictable knowing all the recent events, and that if you had just come out and said something like "Because we wanted to. That's it, no hidden agender or deeper meaning. We just changed it." a couple of days ago when it was first noticed in a thread it could have avoided a lot of confusion on everybody's part. Heck, just saying "We felt it was time for a change!" would have been enough. But the longer you waited to say anything, the louder the grumbling became, and the more people (myself included) began to read into the timing of the change and read meaning into the name chosen.
I was not aware a pre-existing drive by anyone to remove the "Harbor" name, so when it was changed I immediately suspected there was an important reason why somebody would want it done. I'm perfectly willing to accept "We wanted to clear the air and get a fresh, new start" as a perfectly valid reason,.. I just wish somebody had bothered to make it clearer, earlier.
But the longer you sit on it, the more people are going to read into it.
You also could have posted something like "Hey! There's a big change coming, and you'll know it when you see it! Stay tuned! " a couple of days ahead might have alleviated some of the shock when it came.

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Something that was fully intended right up until someone came along and decided to complain about it. Seriously, we simply didn't have time; it went straight from name change to complaint with hardly an hours notice. And please note a certain member may have seen the name change before the mods knew it had been don’t because it was the admins who did it. And this certain member may have decided that with no explanation present in the time of change to when the certain member logged on, we must be messing with you.
Now, we kind of see no point in an explanation, you all seem to be content in the fact that we did it to annoy you, so we'll just go with that now shall we?.
All the more reason to try to communicate your intent as soon as possible. Why does it really seem like so much effort to explain something as simple as a name change to someone who might be reading more into it than you ever intended?

I really think everyone here are fairly reasonable people, and I personally wish to apologize for jumping to any conclusions.

But we all still have a lot of work to do on that "communication" thing.


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Old 10-07-2003, 02:23 AM   #61
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Like I said I would say if someone came out and told us why it happened.



M'kay.


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Cool Guy Another damn chicken joke

Q: Why did the chicken cross the road?

A: The grass just seems greener over there.

(This is not nonrelevant commentary, but a metaphor which seeks to express what may well be the underlying cause of the Harbor's name change controversy--the sheer zen inscrutability of unrelated, random events. No one can predict the chicken's interest in greener grass any more than the semi bearing down fatefully upon it at ninety miles per hour; in the same way, the Harbor has been retitled without need for a reason or any more thought given to one than the trucker gives to poultry road safety. How's my driving?)

How about this name--'Thrik's House of Razor Sharp Bee Pancakes.' Mmmm...they make their own honey!


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Yeah, what ^he^ said, without the side commentary that totally ruined the joke/metaphore.

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Old 10-07-2003, 12:06 PM   #64
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Well since this thread accomplished nothing, and caused so many headaches... time to pull the plug.
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