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Much Better 6 13.33%
A Little Better 13 28.89%
About the Same 13 28.89%
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Old 09-27-2004, 09:34 PM   #1
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Noticed Dif with 1.00a?

Well the first PC patch is out and it seems the reviews are a bit mixed.


This poll covers just the net issues that the patch is aimed at.


in my view its 'about the same'...some stuff seems a tiny bit better, some worse...net effect for me is the game is no better.
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Old 09-28-2004, 05:29 AM   #2
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Server list loads 'instantaneously' now -- of course all the pings are one red bar until you click on the server. I can actually use the mouse to select a server now -- use to be very difficult to select one, so I just used to use the up/down arrow keys.

Before the patch, server list took 1-2+ minutes to fully load.

I see a vast improvement -- just on the server list which is all this patch addressed. Gameplay remains the same as 1.00
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Old 09-28-2004, 06:28 AM   #3
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When was this released, today (28-Sept)?

Hats off to getting a patch out so quick, somebody post the change list to those of us stuck at work for the next 8 hrs...

EDIT: gleaned from LucasArts page to answer my own question:

- Improves NAT negotiation for online games which may help improve multiplayer performance.
- Minor fix to server browser screen.

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Old 09-28-2004, 06:48 AM   #4
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Hopefully the next patch is around 300MB or so.
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Old 09-28-2004, 07:34 AM   #5
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Does it unlock the 30fps in MP?
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Old 09-28-2004, 07:36 AM   #6
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No all the patch does is loads the server list faster becuase it doesnt ping each server. It took them a whole week for just that fix. Just think how long it will take them to fix the other issues.
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Old 09-28-2004, 07:56 AM   #7
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...ridiculous
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Old 09-28-2004, 08:39 AM   #8
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When was this released, today (28-Sept)?

Hats off to getting a patch out so quick, .
The game went 'gold' on September 2n.d They have been at work on this 'patch' for almost 4 weeks.
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Old 09-28-2004, 08:52 AM   #9
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I must say I had high hopes for this patch but I'm disappointed.

It -has- improved the server browser refresh rate. And it has eased the lag a -very- tiny bit, but what it hasn't done is remove the EXTREMELY stupid Fps lock and the game still lags on Multiplayer.

Hopefully we'll see a better patch in the future. For now I'm choosing "A little better".

Though I am now about 80% confident the netcode issues will be fixed so I'm holding on. Till then its single player for me, while its fun, we all bought the game to shoot -each other- in star wars, not bots, online right?







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Old 09-28-2004, 09:50 AM   #10
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The patch has made my multiplay connections way worse. Granted its not as bad as I originally thought, but it has still made things worse. I think someone forgot to tell Pandemic the basic rules regarding patches..."Patches are made to fix existing problems, not create new ones".

This game is incomplete. It wasn't finished when it was released. I guess I paid $40.00 for the honor of beta testing this game for Pandemic!
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Old 09-28-2004, 09:57 AM   #11
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It's a bit better, it connects much faster, kept me in the maps till now. Until it has STOP and filter features i'm not saying it improved dramatically/a lot


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Old 09-28-2004, 10:12 AM   #12
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I think they are currently working on a bigger/better patch at the moment, this patch is a temporary fix. It would explain this being Ver 1.00a


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Old 09-28-2004, 10:33 AM   #13
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I never had a problem joining games before the patch, now I cant join a single game. Damn the patch.


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Old 09-28-2004, 10:38 AM   #14
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The irony is that I don't dare uninstall my game and reinstall without the patch (which as far as I know is the only way to remove this damn patch). Because installation was so buggy it took me three tries and around an hour and a half to finally get it installed. I feel like I am lucky to have gotten the third installation to finally take. I don't dare push my luck!
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Old 09-28-2004, 10:47 AM   #15
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It's better in that once I'm on a server, I get less lag and the connection seems a bit more stable (but far from perfect).

It's worse in that, no matter what server I'm on, when the map changes, I now get disconnected.

So, overall, it's still about the same - pretty damn bad.
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Old 09-28-2004, 11:23 AM   #16
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People can really be stupid...I mean really REALLY stupid.

When Battlefield 1942 came out..it was a mess..it took the Dev team close to 2 months to come out with a patch.

Battlefield Vietnam...it took the Dev team a little over a month to get out even a minor patch.

The fact that THIS dev team released a quick fix so fast is a good sign of things to come. They could have just as easily released this combined with the major patch. But instead they took the extra effort to make it a seperate patch and release it now.

Seriously...some of you people will never be happy. You must have miserable existances.
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Old 09-28-2004, 11:29 AM   #17
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Yeah, people seem to forget how bad the battlefield series was,when they were first released.


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Old 09-28-2004, 11:44 AM   #18
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The new patch sucks, not only do I lag more, but I cant find the server with the lowest ping within 10 seconds or more. Now I just get a huge list of servers unpinged and cant find the good ones, and I cant use all seeing eye or gamespy because they dont connect to the servers properly.
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Old 09-28-2004, 11:46 AM   #19
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The fact that its a 1.00a warrants that it won't fix all the dramatic problems. It fixes minor stuff that people were complaining about which the devs thought they could release much faster. And they have also released 2 patches for the PS2 version, so don't tell me they haven't worked on the game in the past 4 weeks. This patch is a sure sign of good things to come. For those who are having trouble with the patch, I'm sorry, and I'm sure the devs are too. Which makes things worse, for them when all you do is complain. These guys try there damnedest to please and the nagging and whining increases ten fold. And don't even think of directing flames towards that comment or me. Didn't vote since I have yet to try the game with the patch.


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Old 09-28-2004, 12:17 PM   #20
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Hell yeah I noticed a difference. Now I can actually play online.
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Old 09-28-2004, 12:21 PM   #21
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The fact that THIS dev team released a quick fix so fast is a good sign of things to come. They could have just as easily released this combined with the major patch. But instead they took the extra effort to make it a seperate patch and release it now.
You're correct - a patchette (not quite enough to actually be called a 'patch') this quickly is, in a way, to be applauded, and shows that the problems will hopefully be sorted fairly quickly, but, to be absolutely blunt, many of them are problems that should have been sorted before the game was released. Whether this is also true of past games is entirely irrelevant.

Just to be clear, I am not criticising the devs here, as I don't know who is responsible for releasing this game in this state.
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Old 09-28-2004, 12:21 PM   #22
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I can't remember the last game I bought that didn't need a patch out of the box.

It is STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE, games are always rushed out of development.

I can not believe that people are still shocked by this. If you really don't want to play a buggy game And you want to send a message to publishers WAIT to buy games until they've been sufficiently patched.

OTHERWISE:

SUCK IT UP and wait for the patch.

Remember, you vote with your dollar.
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Old 09-28-2004, 12:51 PM   #23
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Yeah but if you don't complain about the bugs and problems, they won't get fixed. Because then how are they to know what is wrong if no one complains? So complaints are manditory if you want to get some action. It's as simple as that!

And frankly just because other games have been released buggy or unworkable doesn't make it right. I'm sorry if I am bent out of shape because I have worked hours and hours to make the money I spend on a game that I am told that will work, only to find out that it doesn't. That just isn't right and I don't care if others have no problem with this. I paid my 40 plus dollars and I expect to get what I paid for!

Just look on this forum. It is filled with legitamite complaints. These aren't people who are bitching just for the sake of bitching. These are people who simply want to be able to play the game. It is obvious that this game was not ready to be released. So hell yeah I am going to complain. I paid for this game with my hard earned money. That is what gives me the right!!!
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Old 09-28-2004, 12:55 PM   #24
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....

again another proof that, when autorities/governement/dev of something do somthing, thers always ppl to complain and/or find disadvantages at the new things. and if they do nothing its even worse.... And saying this patch sux won't make patch come better and faster. So i say they've done a good job with this patch and the game too. It need some fix, thats all.
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Old 09-28-2004, 03:20 PM   #25
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I can't remember the last game I bought that didn't need a patch out of the box.
Well, just glancing to my left at my games collection, here's a list of all the games I could play quite happily with no noticable bugs or problems using the original retail version without patching at all (though some were later improved by patches):

Age of Mythology
Age of Mythology: Titans
Breed
Call of Duty
Destroyer Command
Deus Ex: Invisible War
Doom 3
Farcry
Grand Theft Auto 3
Grand theft Auto: Vice City
Hidden and Dangerous 2
Hitman: Contracts
Homeworld
Homeworld 2
Mafia
Max Payne
Max Payne 2
Medal of Honour Allied Assault
Medal of Honour Allied Assault: Spearhead
Medal of Honour Allied Assault: Breakthrough
Medieval: Total War
Medieval: Viking Invasion
Silent Hunter 2
Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow
Star Trek: Bridge Commander
Star Wars Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy
Sub Command
Thief 3
Tron 2.0
Unreal 2
Unreal Tournament 2004


Whilst there are quite a few games that did, indeed, need patching (most notably Battlefield 1942 and Battlefield Vietnam), that is only a handful.

I trust this proves my point.
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Old 09-28-2004, 03:52 PM   #26
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Whilst there are quite a few games that did, indeed, need patching (most notably Battlefield 1942 and Battlefield Vietnam), that is only a handful.

I trust this proves my point.
Well, I suppose it does, but it misses mine. Most games have some bugs...thankfully they're usually minor.

My point is not that people shouldn't complain, its that they shouldn't be surprised. And they need to stop buying buggy games if they want publishers to get the message.
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Old 09-28-2004, 03:53 PM   #27
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and...

I'll tell you what makes me far angrier than buying a game with bugs...its buying a game that sucks.

Force Commander

Travesty.

Thankfully I've learned my lesson and I now wait for demos/reviews/feedback from players.
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Old 09-28-2004, 03:56 PM   #28
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And they need to stop buying buggy games if they want publishers to get the message.
Good point, but unfortunatly when it comes to a game like this that was so hyped that a good portion of us bought it the day it came out. But I do agree with your statement. A lot of the time I will wait before I buy a game to see what the buzz is on it. But when it came to this game I just couldn't wait.
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Old 09-28-2004, 04:03 PM   #29
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We can't know if it's buggy till it comes out. And SOMEONE has to buy it. Reviews, sure, but those are largely inconsistent and spurious in their takes on games.

But studios that continuously make buggy games or unoriginal games will go out of business. Happens all the time. Impressions basically went under because it lost funding from Vivendi. Lords3 was a complete bomb and the studio was dead from then on.


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Old 09-28-2004, 06:45 PM   #30
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We can't know if it's buggy till it comes out.
Bingo. Got it in one. I can see where you're coming from, KalFalnal, but, basically, if everyone did what you're suggesting, no-one would buy a game for the first couple of weeks after release, so you would have the same problem - how do you know if it's going to be buggy or just suck until you buy it? Magazine/internet reviews can vary quite wildly, so you can't just refer to them.
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