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Old 10-13-2004, 02:47 PM   #41
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that is a good theory, one i believe makes sense, good job Shok
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Old 10-14-2004, 04:31 AM   #42
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i like that thinking, shok ... especially this one line

he was usefull, but to be eventually disposed of

which i believe can relate to just about anyone palpatine was directly associated with ... everything and everyone just as long as he gained ultimate and unchallenged power.


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Old 10-15-2004, 07:52 AM   #43
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Well, my theory is that the Force meant for things to happen because whether or not we try to control it, is ultimately controls us to where it can make things happen to balance itself out. Why else would it have created Anakin skywalker when there was no father figure? Why else would it have been on tattooine, where Qui-gon and Obi-wan would end up. It was all destiny to where not even Palpatine could control the outcome because he was never in control of the Force, only made to believe he was so that the Force could run its own path.


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Old 10-15-2004, 01:10 PM   #44
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Well, my theory is that the Force meant for things to happen because whether or not we try to control it, is ultimately controls us to where it can make things happen to balance itself out. Why else would it have created Anakin skywalker when there was no father figure? Why else would it have been on tattooine, where Qui-gon and Obi-wan would end up. It was all destiny to where not even Palpatine could control the outcome because he was never in control of the Force, only made to believe he was so that the Force could run its own path.
i will agree with you for the most part, but i do think that the Force allows some room for choice. It allows each Jedi or Sith to choose how to allocate the force and what to do with their lives. So i think it is safe to say that Palpatine was in control of the force to some degree, just so long as the force saw balance at some point, which is all i think the force cares about.

Why else would jedi be worried about going to the dark side, unless they had a choice. Because, according to your theory, the Force would ultimately decide If a force-user will be light or darlk, in which case, those force-users wouldn't have to be held accountable for how they use the force if the force controls them, not vica-versa.
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Old 10-15-2004, 02:06 PM   #45
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is ultimately controls us
partially, but it also obeys our commands - Obi-Wan Kenobi
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Old 10-15-2004, 02:59 PM   #46
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The force obeys our commands when it sees that it is fulfilling the its own agenda... Why else would the Force not allow the light-side to see what the dark-side was up to (being with Palpatine and Dooku planning the Clone War)? It was wanting to play out its plan by the best way that it saw to be with the ultimate outcome: Balance in the Force.

Sure there may be flaws in my theory but I think it would best explain some things that otherwise remain a mystery.


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Old 10-15-2004, 03:06 PM   #47
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Its not that the force did not allow the Jedi to know about what the Sith were up to, its that the Sith would not, they are the ones who were clouding their vision. If the force always saw to it that its will was carried out, how would there be practitioners of the dark side at all?
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Old 10-17-2004, 11:57 AM   #48
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Just about everyone was Palpy's pawn really.
so are you lynky, so are you

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