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Old 01-24-2006, 08:45 AM   #1
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Thumbs down Buy a T-Shirt, support the suicide bombers!


OK, so T-Shirts with dubious things such as the Soviet Hammer and Sickle, Fidel Castro, and other oddities have been in stores for I don't know how long. Odd as it may sound, there is a market of morons out there who somehow get the idea that Che Guevara was a hero, the Soviet Union a Paradise, and the PFLP a gang of nice peaceful activists. So why does this get to me?

Because €5 of the price of these T-shirts go to the terrorist groups portrayed on them. Put simply: Buy a T-Shirt, support a suicide bomber. According to the Site:
Fighters+Lovers is greatly in debt to the stylish classic coolness of Palestinian fighter Leyla Khaled and the funky outrageous style of Colombian guerrilla commander Jacobo Arenas. Our Collection 2006 is inspired by the style and principles of these legendary fighters.

Let them bring it on. You rock!
"Stylish coolness"? What are these guys high on?

PFLP is the brave exception in a region haunted by religious intolerance and fanaticism.
So it's not intolerant and fanatical to kill innocents now?

Anyways, what are your opinions on supporting these groups' "radio stations and graphic workshops" by buying T-Shirts?

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using free speech to get attention...pretty lame.

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Old 01-24-2006, 12:55 PM   #3
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Seems no different than Nation of Israel stuff.

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Old 01-24-2006, 04:15 PM   #4
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Surely not that different to all the other fundraising for various causes that exists...?
(and from my point of view a lot of freedom fighters DO deserve the name.. though a lot of them are misguided idiots as well)

But the text on the website, and the fact they seem happy to lump together a load of different ideologies into one mass implies that they don't really give much of a crap about the causes involved and are just using a marketing gimmick.

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Old 01-25-2006, 11:36 AM   #5
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It's mostly a domestic political stunt, and if they had chosen their terrorist groups with a little more care, they would even have had a pretty strong case.

Y'see in Europe and in the US there's such a thing as 'terror lists'. If your organisation is on that list, then your organisation is a terrorist organisation. By definition. And then giving your organisation money and logistical support is illegal.

So, how do you get on those lists? By publicly saying 'yeah, that suicide bomber the other day - he was one of our boys, and we just want to say thank you to him'? Nope, that's not how you get your name on a terror list. So, is it by being tried and convicted in a court of law, where evidence is displayed and witnesses heard? Nope.

You get on a terror list by being put there by politicians and burocrats. Without trial. Without needing evidence. Without even a proper definition of 'terrorist'.

Can you sue to get off those lists? Nope. Does your 'membership' expire unless renewed? Nope.

And there are actually some entries on the terror lists that don't belong there (although fortunately fewer such than on the US' lists).

So protesting against the lists and their use is fair enough - but their choice of organisations is poor to say the least.

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Old 02-22-2006, 05:34 AM   #6
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Think that lots of people remains in the years of the counter-culture and the may of 68 revolution. Those years have gone away and the remains are some icons that nowadays people wear. Lots of people doesn´t know the real things that made the Che, or how was life at the USSR, what happens with Palestina adn Israel. Let them show their ignorance, and let them show their alegiance to big causes that don´t understand.

They agree with great ideals that have reveladed themselves inutil just to fulfill their empy and small lifes. Fill your lives with lots of things, read, visit museums, learn history and worry for knowing. Them you won´t be tricked so easy.

By today, the page doesn´t exist. Looks like the common sense exists in the World.

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