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Old 02-10-2006, 10:08 AM   #41
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Does anyone know the difference between The Sith and Dark Jedi?
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Old 02-10-2006, 12:01 PM   #42
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Does anyone know the difference between The Sith and Dark Jedi?
Yep Sith study the ways of the Sith, Dark jedi are fallen jedi who use the darkside.


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Old 02-10-2006, 02:26 PM   #43
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Does that mean that Count Dooku and Anakin Skywalker are dark Jedi. Because they were both once Jedi, and turned to the Darkside.
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Old 02-10-2006, 02:31 PM   #44
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Does that mean that Count Dooku and Anakin Skywalker are dark Jedi. Because they were both once Jedi, and turned to the Darkside.
No because they were both taken on by a Sith lord (sidious) and taught the teachings of the Sith which makes them Sith.


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Old 02-10-2006, 03:52 PM   #45
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Oh i see, thanks. I think i understand the difference now.
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Old 02-10-2006, 06:55 PM   #46
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Anyone with the title "Darth" is a member of the Sith order, the Sith Order is an organization whose ultimate goal is to take over the galaxy and destroy the Jedi.
A Dark Jedi is just a person who uses the Dark side of the force, a Jedi who has "fallen to the dark side" isn't automatically a Sith, the two are very different.



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Old 02-14-2006, 02:46 PM   #47
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If I could have my own lightsabers they would be (take a deep breath) two electrum ones with a similar design to Darth Vader's RotS one and they would make the same chainsaw-like sound as Darth Maul's but I'd still be on the light side of the force.
If I was to have a double-blader, however, it would be like Exar Kun's but red. None of that Maul crap; his lightsaber must have been constructed by the same blind idiot with 9-inch long fingers as the original X-B*x controller...
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Old 02-15-2006, 02:01 AM   #48
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Does that mean that Count Dooku and Anakin Skywalker are dark Jedi. Because they were both once Jedi, and turned to the Darkside.
Yes, they are Dark Jedi, AND they are Sith.

As pointed out, the Sith are a specific Order of Dark Side users. A "Dark Jedi" would (logically) be any Jedi who turns to the Dark Side.

In the movies there are only two kinds of force users ever mentioned... Jedi (who are not supposed to use the Dark Side) and the Sith (who make it a point to use the Dark Side).

The EU writers were (at one point in time, on again off again apparently) forbidden to use the term "Sith" in their works before the Prequels since Lucas wanted that territory for himself. So they came up with the term "Dark Jedi" basically to describe ANY Dark Side user. Then later they made up that the Sith were these red aliens conquered by Dark Jedi in the past and then the Dark Jedi leaders came to be called Sith Lords etc (this was before the term "Darth" was revealed as a Sith title, in TPM by Lucas... before that it was assumed to be a personal name for Vader, since Obi-Wan even calls him "Darth" in ANH!). A lot of stuff wasn't known until the prequels. The Star Wars: Behind the Magic CD set repeats the popular wisdom that Vader was the only Dark Lord of the Sith (that there was only ONE Dark Lord of the Sith at a time). We knew as of ESB that the Emperor had the Force, but not that he was a Sith Lord himself and that there were only ever two Sith at a time.

So now in the EU we end up with dozens or hundreds of people who practice the Dark Side but aren't Sith. And even those who call themselves Sith but really aren't (they even made a point of mentioning this with regard to Assaj Ventress in the Clone Wars, where Dooku ridicules her for calling herself Sith).

And finally Dark Side users that are neither "Dark Jedi" nor Sith. And they give us "Light Side" (the term never appears in the movies) users who are not Jedi. So it runs the spectrum, so I don't blame you for being confused.

Anyway, in the movies we have Maul & Sideous who are Sith, but not Dark Jedi. Dooku and Vader who are former Jedi turned Sith, so the term Dark Jedi could be applied to them. And the rest of the characters who use the Force are simply Jedi (we assume that Leia will be trained as the first Jedi pupil of Luke Skywalker, by the end of ROTJ).

In the movies there has never been a Dark Jedi who didn't also become a Sith. But in the EU at least, it would easily be possible for such a creature to exist. Just have a Jedi fall to the Dark Side but not join the Sith Order. Since the Sith Order is effectively extinct after ROTJ, there really aren't anymore Sith (but a few pretenders to the throne I suppose). The Sith line might be able to be restarted, but their line was broken. The Jedi Order line still continues in Luke, trained by the last Jedi, Yoda.

Sorry for the wordy digression, I just wanted to help clear that up.


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Old 02-16-2006, 04:13 PM   #49
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Have to go with Mace Windu's. For one it's the only one in the films that's purple, the same as Mara Jade's For another is the BMF insignia on the hilt, referring to a scene in Pulp Fiction. And Mace and Samuel L. Jackson just rock.
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Old 02-18-2006, 12:00 PM   #50
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lol I never knew that, thats great!
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Old 02-18-2006, 04:12 PM   #51
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It's not jusr because of the actor. Samuel L. Jackson was joking around with the props wizards and asked about having the words BMF on his lightsaber, in referrence to the character he played in Pulp Fiction, Jules, and his wallet that had BAD MOTHER...well you get the idea. They went for it, although I'm not sure if it's ever shown.
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Old 02-20-2006, 01:35 PM   #52
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tried looking for it in the Mace Vs. Plapatine fight but cant see it. I could see what may have been it but couldnt really make it out prperly.
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Old 02-23-2006, 07:04 AM   #53
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Hey all. I have 3

For simplicity Qui-Gon. For traditional Anakin. For the best desgined Mace.

you can take a look here at the Alaris Hilt Pack we use in JA.


http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y24...ishiltpack.jpg

the 1st is mace, 2nd is qui-gon and 4th is anakin.

The Sith and Dark Jedi were 2 different groups. The Sith were a race of people who studied primitive magic. When the 1st set of jedi were exiled for practicing solely the dark side, they encountered the sith. Of course a fight ensued where the Dark Jedi became astounded that the Sith Sword did not shatter when clashing against the lightsaber. It was here that cortosis was found. The might of the Dark Jedi's force abilities was too much for the Sith and they were conquered. Later on interbreeding led to the 2 people becoming one.



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