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Old 03-03-2006, 01:24 PM   #121
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Don't see "taking blasphemy seriously" as part of that definition...
That's why you should just make one up like I did and copy the format from M-W.com to make it look official ... isn't that what propoganda is all about?


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Old 03-03-2006, 02:46 PM   #122
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Don't see "taking blasphemy seriously" as part of that definition...
Someone who takes blasphemy seriously is, by scandinavian standards at least, a radical and revolutionary zealot.

That blasphemy is a serious matter is a radical and alien concept in Scandinavia.
People who call for blasphemy to be condemned - whether legally or politically - are calling for nothing less than a revolution in the policial climate in Scandinavia.
People who ferment revolutions over religious reasons were called zealots last time I checked.

And by any reasonable definition, a radical, revolutionary zealot is an extremist.

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Old 03-03-2006, 04:56 PM   #123
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Uh-huh. One need not murder people directly to be an extremist.
Of course not. You look at people such as the Klu Klux Klan. Even if they do not murder black people their view of white supremacy is extremist. Kind of like the idea that Aboriginals are meant to be treated superior, but that's getting away from the point. Just because someone takes blasphemy seriously doesn't mean they're an extremist. People can get offended and angry at things such as 'goddamn', 'Jesus Christ', human cloning and attempts to play God, or sacriligious and blasphemous imagery (the cop crucified like Jesus in Silence of the Lambs, or cross shaped doorways where anyone walking through them would be crucified spring to mind). That does not make them extremists. Not many of them would fly off the handle the way extremists do. In fact, people who take blasphemy seriously would make up a sizeable chunk of the human race, where as the extremists of the lot would make up less than 1 percent.
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Old 03-03-2006, 06:02 PM   #124
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I agree totally - taking blasphemy seriously is a part of any religion. The things that make up extremists are ideology & actions. I, along with many other Christians, was offended when that moron calling himself an artist decided that it'd be a great artistic display to immerse a cricifix in his urine, and when the other 'artist' thought it'd be neat to splatter a picture of the Virgin Mary with feces, and when Kanye West thought it'd be cool to pose as Christ on the cover of Rolling Stone...but you didn't see Christians the world over rioting in the streets, burning buildings and killing people in response to these insults.

Taking one's faith seriously doesn't make someone an extremist.


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Old 03-03-2006, 06:08 PM   #125
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Oh God, that what? I thought the Beetles saying they were bigger than Jesus was bad. But you are right in what you say, as much of a serve as this may be to Muslims, could you tell me the last time a devout Christian, Jew or Buddist blew up a bus or a building with a bomb that was strapped to their body?
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Old 03-03-2006, 06:37 PM   #126
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But you are right in what you say, as much of a serve as this may be to Muslims, could you tell me the last time a devout Christian, Jew or Buddist blew up a bus or a building with a bomb that was strapped to their body?
Well, there's been plenty of christians who bomb abortion clinics and gay bars... but not typically in suicide attacks.
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Old 03-03-2006, 06:43 PM   #127
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could you tell me the last time a devout Christian, Jew blew up a bus or a building with a bomb that was strapped to their body?
About 2 days ago?

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when Kanye West thought it'd be cool to pose as Christ on the cover of Rolling Stone
So he can't do it, but Jim Caveziel can? How interesting...


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Well, there's been plenty of christians who bomb abortion clinics and gay bars... but not typically in suicide attacks.
Certainly Christians do not escape criticism, with some militant against homosexuals and abortions far and above the fear that the characters in Brokeback Mountain are going to leap out of the screen and rape them. Even that line of thinking is wrong, but there are Christians out there who push for genocide. That certainly is extremist. To be honest I'm not knowledgeable of Christians committing what would be considered terrorist acts such as bombing abortion clinics, but I'm sure that it would happen.

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About 2 days ago?
Can you give specifics? I do not recall any suicide attacks or violence of any kind really since the Palestinion elections.
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To be honest I'm not knowledgeable of Christians committing what would be considered terrorist acts such as bombing abortion clinics, but I'm sure that it would happen.
Used to happen quite a bit back in the `90's


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Can you give specifics? I do not recall any suicide attacks or violence of any kind really since the Palestinion elections.
Well the news in America doesn't exactly talk about issues in the Middle East unless it involves a Palestini blowing something up.


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So he can't do it, but Jim Caveziel can? How interesting...
I'm gonna assume you're being sarcastic...because the only other option is complete stupidity.

Caveziel portrayed Christ so people could see the kind of suffering Jesus went through. Kanye West posed as Christ as a publicity stunt, because he knew it would offend people, and that's how he gets his kicks.


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Someone who takes blasphemy seriously is, by scandinavian standards at least, a radical and revolutionary zealot.
I think we differ in what we define as "seriously".

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Old 03-06-2006, 04:15 PM   #132
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I think we differ in what we define as "seriously".
Trulies.

There is the 'seriously' that means 'that seriously bums me out, I wish you hadn't told me my pet cricket was dead'.

And the one that means 'I'm seriously going to light your entire family on fire and watch you run screamig around the neighborhood'.'


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