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Old 04-30-2005, 01:49 AM   #41
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From what Ive heard (And those people are very reliable sources)
Is that after the Clone Wars, the Empire wanted even more soldier so on top of the clones, they were getting enlisted men. All pilots are recruits, no clones there. Same with mechanics, and other special tasks.

Its also been said that some of the clones took on Special Operation tasks. So you would have the enlisted as the foot soldiers mixed with the clones, and some clones that werem Spec Ops.


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Old 04-30-2005, 01:55 AM   #42
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From what Ive heard (And those people are very reliable sources)
Is that after the Clone Wars, the Empire wanted even more soldier so on top of the clones, they were getting enlisted men. All pilots are recruits, no clones there. Same with mechanics, and other special tasks.

Its also been said that some of the clones took on Special Operation tasks. So you would have the enlisted as the foot soldiers mixed with the clones, and some clones that werem Spec Ops.
Eh... where ever you got your information is a tad off. I've explained everything in my post.
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Old 04-30-2005, 02:01 AM   #43
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Ah I see now. Oh well it looks like I was just enforcing the truth in your post then..


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Old 05-02-2005, 12:30 PM   #44
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Stormtroopers are a mixture of clones and recruits, thats what I heard anyway. The clones were those that were left after the clone war.
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Old 05-02-2005, 05:30 PM   #45
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Stormtroopers are a mixture of clones and recruits, thats what I heard anyway. The clones were those that were left after the clone war.
Man, why is it that no one reads threads anymore? I've already posted the real explanation, yet people are still coming in posting what they have heard.
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Old 05-02-2005, 07:04 PM   #46
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Man, why is it that no one reads threads anymore? I've already posted the real explanation, yet people are still coming in posting what they have heard.
I was simply posting what I always thought, jeez man chill. Nowhere in my post did I claim mine to be the official explanation, I was just posting what I always thought.
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Old 05-02-2005, 07:50 PM   #47
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I was simply posting what I always thought, jeez man chill. Nowhere in my post did I claim mine to be the official explanation, I was just posting what I always thought.
But what you heard has already been proven wrong, so really, there's no point in posting it.
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Old 05-02-2005, 08:01 PM   #48
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I posted my opinion, which is what we tend to do..
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Old 05-02-2005, 08:14 PM   #49
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But the question has been answered correctly. No more need for opinions.


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Old 05-02-2005, 08:33 PM   #50
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That is ridiculous fair play, I simply posted my opinion on what I used to think the stormtroopers were and now there's bitching how I should never have posted.... Quit the hate people and relax. This is a message board, I didn't post a message offending anyone or a message worthy of all this hassle.
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Old 05-02-2005, 09:23 PM   #51
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Theres really no point to this thread any more then because the truth has been spoken and now its just an agurment. This is considered flamming. But correct me if im wrong because im sure someone will lol.


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Old 05-02-2005, 11:23 PM   #52
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Well I haven't been here for a while, so all I did was read this thread then add what I thought, thats all.
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Old 05-02-2005, 11:31 PM   #53
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Well I haven't been here for a while, so all I did was read this thread then add what I thought, thats all.
We all relize that very well. But what im saying is that you shouldnt be aguring. Because your fighting a losing battle. They already told us what is what so this thread is just for people that want to find out.


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Old 05-02-2005, 11:49 PM   #54
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I wasn't trying to argue, I just added my opinion only to get abuse.... Never mind, lets just let it die now.
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Old 05-03-2005, 12:05 AM   #55
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Old 05-10-2005, 10:47 PM   #56
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It's become official.

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the idea is that over time, there were new clone strains introduced, and then they even conscripted guys to be Storm Troopers. So it's not just purely clones: It started out as clones, but then it got diluted over the years as they found out they could shanghai guys [more cheaply] than they could build clones.

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Old 05-10-2005, 11:34 PM   #57
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THANK YOU! I couldn't imagine the Empire cloning MORE soldiers who couldn't shoot the inside of a barn (noticeable in Ep. IV-VI).
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Old 05-10-2005, 11:45 PM   #58
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What George said could be interpreted differently, and I'd say the "grunts are clones, officers are regulars" theory would still make sense. Stormtroopers are supposedly 100% loyal and cannot be bribed or blackmailed, so there has to be some reason why the conscripted guys are all so dedicated.

Maybe because all enlistees are granted an officer's rank upon graduation from their academy. Some lowly cannon-fodder grunt who got shanghaied really isn't going to be all that loyal, and most would probably go AWOL. But if the way the Empire "shanghaies" people into service is by temping them with instant officer status upon graduation, they'd have a reason to serve well, and not just so they don't get a firing squad.
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Old 05-11-2005, 12:26 AM   #59
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so there has to be some reason why the conscripted guys are all so dedicated.
Twi'lek booty. They probably have a deal with Jabba to get some of his dancing girls to show their men a good time during leave.


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Old 05-11-2005, 06:14 AM   #60
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In Rogue Squadran 3, you go to the imp academy. So I guess all guys who go in AT-ST's would also quilifiy as academy students. Plus, I bet someone spiked the cloning vat so they cant shoot for beans

But Lucas is trying to make it seem that he had planned this from the start saying, all the Stormies were clones. But comics have messed up the image even more. I saw a Imp scout in a comic take off his helmet and he wansnt even looking the same as to a regualr clone, very confusing....


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Old 05-11-2005, 11:00 PM   #61
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Lucas has made it very, Very confusing. And yeah I think if you go to the Navy that you will be a pilot (If you pass the courses) Go to the Army, you could enlist or become an Officer in the AT-ST.


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Old 05-13-2005, 05:14 AM   #62
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Enlisted or clones?

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Old 05-13-2005, 08:57 PM   #63
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Enlisted or clones?

- They're a mix of both.
If you had bothered to actually read the thread (WOW! What a concept!) you'd find out that we've already established this.
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Old 05-19-2005, 11:14 AM   #64
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Old 05-22-2005, 06:43 AM   #65
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I never believe anything I hear unless it is reenforced by someone/something else. I'm merely reenforcing the facts.
...You just made absolutely no sense.
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Old 05-22-2005, 12:46 PM   #66
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Well, this has finally been cleared up (unless he changes his mind yet again).

Thanks for the quote InsaneSith for the original source (I missed that post before I pasted this in).

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(reposted from another forum by me):

Sorry if this has already been posted, but there were some interesting quotes in there:

IGN Film Force Interview with George Lucas

On the nature of Stormtroopers:

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"The idea is that over time, there were new clone strains introduced, and then they even conscripted guys to be Storm Troopers. So it's not just purely clones: It started out as clones, but then it got diluted over the years as they found out they could shanghai guys [more cheaply] than they could build clones."
About Han & Leia:

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"Han and Leia probably did get married. They settled down. She became a senator, and they got a nice little house with a white picket fence. Han Solo is out there cooking burgers on the grill."
On the Honorable Representative Binks:

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"He goes back to Naboo and he's a representative. He probably stays on the council, he's probably in the senate, because it becomes completely worthless. Senators are just for show, which they talk about in Episode IV. Actually, in Episode IV they get disbanded, so Jar Jar probably goes home to his wife and kids."
On the TV series and the future of Star Wars:

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"I love doing it, but it is 20 years of my life," he told Static Multimedia. "I am anxious to get on and do other things. We are still doing a TV series, two TV series, one animated and one live action, so I am not going to do it myself, but I'll peek in from time-to-time. So I won't completely have lost the Star Wars experience."
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So there you have it. I interpret this as entirely Clones until sometime in the OT period, when they start putting conscripts in there too.


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Old 05-22-2005, 03:33 PM   #67
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As for the TV series, it is nice that the movies are now their own entity and a complete story, and now Lucas will let others play in the sandbox.

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Old 05-24-2005, 08:36 AM   #68
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...You just made absolutely no sense.
- yeah. And the fact that you've been on the forums for over 2 years does NOT make you cool.

- Sorry to break it to you.

Anyway, getting back on topic...

LOL @ George Lucas's quote on the nature of stormtroopers.


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Old 05-24-2005, 05:42 PM   #69
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- yeah. And the fact that you've been on the forums for over 2 years does NOT make you cool.
No, but he has trooper armor, therefore he > you.


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Old 05-25-2005, 07:47 PM   #70
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- yeah. And the fact that you've been on the forums for over 2 years does NOT make you cool.

- Sorry to break it to you.
When did I say it does? The fact that I'm cool makes me cool, not how long I've been around.
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...no coment!
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- yeah. And the fact that you've been on the forums for over 2 years does NOT make you cool.
Well TK was right, what you said didn't make much sense. At least he's coherent, that puts him higher up than you.



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Old 04-02-2006, 01:47 PM   #73
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...no coment!
You resurrected a thread from like, a year ago, just to post garbage.

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Yep. Time to retire this one... (take note of that Lucas quote!)


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