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Old 08-28-2006, 04:21 PM   #41
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Who all is gonna be playing this evening say within 4 or 5 hours from this post?

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Old 08-28-2006, 07:04 PM   #42
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Oh I see MasterKatarn = Andrew L = Maw

Thanks for clearing that up!


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Old 08-28-2006, 07:08 PM   #43
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I will play some more!

Ja I was using all the cheap tricks (except supergrip and superlightning, which I view as an unfair exploit). Four-star protection, some grip, high lightning, four-star speed, a little jump, dominate the surge. Concussion rifle, and occasionally the rail detonator. Kill everyone. LOL just like back in 1999. One thing I learned yesterday is that I really dont need absorb. Protection pretty much covers it for defensive power.

That E-11 was annoying! Great to see it is really effective in low-lag high framerate situations.

The battles we had in Sith Temple were just plain awesome, especially with the sound effects.

I have an Nvidia graphics card, which allows me to set full-screen antialiasing for any application (including those that dont have fullscreen AA) from the drivers options, which I access from the display properties. I imagine ATI has similar options that you can probably get to from the display properties dialog (right click your desktop, pick properties, click settings tab, then click advanced button).


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Old 08-28-2006, 07:18 PM   #44
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IM GOING ON RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!! GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 08-28-2006, 07:19 PM   #45
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Nope, not in there, but I may need to install the latest Catalyst Control Panel to see the options... I forgot about that.

I really gotta do work this evening, but I can fire up the server again (I had it off for a few hours while I took a nap) if anyone is still interested!


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Old 08-28-2006, 07:38 PM   #46
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Roger that it's up... take screenshots!


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Old 08-28-2006, 08:10 PM   #47
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Hey guys I think I discovered something. It seems that I can alt+tab out of the game and do other stuff while the server runs and its fine, BUT if the map ends and I'm still alt+tabbed out, it "waits" for me to hit okay for the next map... but if I'm "in game" then it just does a 30 second timer and then automatically goes to the next map.

So if anybody had any problems with that, I apologize and it should be back to normal now. I just either have to check it every 20 minutes or keep it running.

Anybody know how to run MotS in a window?


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Old 08-28-2006, 08:41 PM   #48
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Nevermind I figured it out. Just use Patch Commander (it lets you easily enable the command line stuff like debug mode, show framerate or advanced display options).

In Setup go to display, then advanced and then choose the windowed mode and some (non-3D accelerated) mode that's smaller than your desktop res.

Trouble is the game STILL goes into fullscreen mode when the round ends (though that gets my attention to click the button for the next round) and when I'm not having focus on the window I can't see what's going on with it.

Anyway, have fun!

PS: Here's the link to Hypersnap that Wilhuf sent me (program hasn't changed in four years it seems!) that you can use to take screenshots of that darn scoretable that turn out correctly! (go to capture, enable special capture and then check the options, and use scroll lock key to cap!).


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Old 08-28-2006, 09:49 PM   #49
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Mysteries of the Sith main screen, in all its glory


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Old 08-29-2006, 12:18 AM   #50
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MMMmmmm yeah, oh yeah! Pretty.


Well, that's Game Over for tonight, things got pretty quiet as evening wore on.


We did clear up another "Mystery of the Sith"... there is NO KFY bug, despite presistent rumors over the years.

(The Rumor was that due to a bug, you could still use the force against a Ysalamiri carrier, by using Force Destruction from a safe distance away, we proved this false. Not only does the Destruction ball not hurt you or even knock you back, it is completely nullified, the ball doesn't even explode when targetted nearby!)

Lightning of course has limited range for targetting, so that wouldn't work, and Force Throw isn't even usable in MotS.

We didn't try Saber Throw, but I doubt the power's range is sufficient to allow it to hit the person (I wonder what would happen if you tossed the saber and then they ran forward to try to intercept it mid-flight?)

But so far, it looks like the MotS team did their homework on this one, which is good.


Again, if people want, I can fire up the game while I'm at class, but no guarentee how long it'll be up (and I'll be too busy to play, especially on Thursday). We'll have a "real game" on the weekend though, I'm almost positive.


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Old 08-29-2006, 06:20 AM   #51
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Old 08-29-2006, 09:49 AM   #52
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Of course how can you get good at it if you don't play?

Unless you meant you aren't familiar with the powers and stuff (Single Player isn't that good of a test for MP, at least how the enemies behave, but the force powers do work the same there).

A good way to train would be to download Rbots MotS from Massassi.net and play against them on "Inhuman" difficulty for awhile.

If anyone is interested, I'm going to fire up the MotS server for a few hours this morning while I'm at class. Same IP as above.


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Old 08-29-2006, 10:02 AM   #53
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oh yeah rbots!! i remember putting them on very easy and getting the rail detonator and blowing them away.....gooooood times!

another thing ya might wanna do is spend about 30 mins in each of the levels, find all the weapon locations and take notes. lol


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Old 08-29-2006, 10:10 AM   #54
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Old 08-29-2006, 12:29 PM   #55
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I tried late last night (uk time) but it wasn't up. I'll try again later.



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Old 08-29-2006, 12:34 PM   #56
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Well, I have to get up at 6:30 or 7:30am Central time for class Mon-Friday, and so that means I typically try to get to bed by 10:30pm. Since my apartment is small (and my processor+fans = loud), I don't typically leave it on after I go to bed. So if you miss it during the day you're out of luck I'm afraid (unless somebody else hosts).

There is a JK dedicated server you can you meet at, type in jk.servegame.com for your IP. But of course I don't run it, so I have no control over the settings. If you want to play MotS, it's either my server or run your own.

Anyway, mine is up now and it will be at least until I get home 1-2 1/2 hours
from now.


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Old 08-29-2006, 07:58 PM   #57
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Kurg, turn the MotS back on! I want to play soldiers in the Cargo Ship!


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Old 08-29-2006, 08:35 PM   #58
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Your wish is my command (I just won't be playing).

Firing it up then...


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Old 08-29-2006, 08:43 PM   #59
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*looks at wilhufs title*

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I might be able to get in later on tonight, but I don't know. School starts tomorrow, and I'm just kinda laying around, enjoying my last day of freedom.


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Old 08-29-2006, 08:54 PM   #60
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Thumbs up

Oh btw, I just realized all this time I could have been hosting on QTUplink (meaning Qtracker users could scan the server).

Sadly I've been having trouble with Qtracker lately (so it crashes) but if I could use that, that might be helpful. I'll try to see if I can get it setup for the weekend.

PS: Sounds like there's some problems in the latest release of Qtracker, I urge you all to (respectfully) pester Ron "the_DM-Ohio" Mercer (at www.qtracker.com) to fix it, and report your bugs!

PPS: Here's a link to some shots I took of some of the various menu screens, which I may someday incorporate into Hiss' page. Especially of note are the force star allotement screens. Plan your strategies.

http://www.jediknight.net/hiss/m_menus.html


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Old 08-30-2006, 09:06 AM   #61
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it neat that people are still playing this

Hello! I would be interested in Playing mots with you all whenever i get around to installing it. I actually just found out yesterday while surfing the web that people still play this. I havnt played this online before just need to know what I need to play and where I can chat,contact people of where they usually hang out to still play this.
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Old 08-30-2006, 12:41 PM   #62
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You don't "need" anything to play, just the game itself and your internet connection! You need to make sure if you have a firewall or router that it's allowing this game to use the internet of course.

The only thing you might want to download is MotS CTF, but that's linked to on the first page. For the most part you shouldn't need any mods, since most of the time we're just running the basic game. There's no official LucasArts patch available either. Patch Commander is really only needed if you are running mods (other than new maps/levels).

New levels/maps just go in your Episode folder (unzipped of course).

You can chat on IRC if you want to, but you'll have to ask other people. I don't really hang out on IRC because most of the time I go there and people are just using it like a voice mail box or something (they stay logged in all day but never chat with anyone).

There is no "usual hangout" really. It's just whoever, wherever wants to host a game. Yes, there are forums, yes, there are chatrooms, but unless somebody says "I'm hosting a game who wants to play?" it will never happen.

GameSpyArcade supports JK/MotS but basically it just searches to see who is logged in who has the game installed, and then you just message them if they want to play, go to the JK/MotS room and fire up a game and wait.

There's no dedicated servers for this game (and the Zone has ceased all support) or built in out of game chat like some other games, so it's pretty much "do it yourself" these days.

JKDF2.net runs a 'dedicated server', but it is for JK, not MotS.


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Old 08-30-2006, 02:45 PM   #63
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thanks for the input. maps shouldnt take me to long to download. i cant use zirc anyway since my isp is aol. thankfully im not wasting my time worrying that im missing out on zirc if people just use it for that. I can connect to about anything since i dont got a router so i shouldnt have a problem there. my only prob should be that i got dial up. but from earlier reading eve na dial up person played an lag u said was minimal. ill just set settings to minimal when i come 2 play. Just need to know when every1 usually comes on to play and ill be there.


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Old 08-30-2006, 03:25 PM   #64
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One quick question. I just d/l the mots maps off of your first link at start of thread. there are 2 files i know the goo file goes in levels file or w/e its called but there is also this items file a dat file. im asking if that also goes in the same file as the maps file. or is it a mod and goes with that mod thingy. dangit i forgot what that is called 2. you can say i have a bad memory. lol


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Old 08-30-2006, 08:27 PM   #65
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MasterRoss08, put items.dat under MotS\Resource\misc


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Old 08-31-2006, 04:01 AM   #66
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Thank You Wiluf. I couldnt play yesterday because i have 2 share comp with brothers and i was like on a botload of hours as well. so hope to see you all whenever you playing again. (NOte) I can enter chat through irc now thanks to the help of EAH_XxHeReTiKxX with my problems. so i dont got any chat problems now. If any1 still wants to contact me otherways you can contact me throug hmy email www.DogloverRoss08@aol.com (makes sure subject is star wars or i may delete it. dont want spam that sort of thing.) my msn messanger: i think its DogloverRoss08@aol.com . ill try 2 be on it alot of the time if people wanna contact me there. and of course this forum you can post things here. you can private message me on this forum. and theres irc chat as well. Thank you all for the help and hope to play with you all soon


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One quick question. I just d/l the mots maps off of your first link at start of thread. there are 2 files i know the goo file goes in levels file or w/e its called but there is also this items file a dat file. im asking if that also goes in the same file as the maps file. or is it a mod and goes with that mod thingy. dangit i forgot what that is called 2. you can say i have a bad memory. lol

In your MotS directory:

Episode (Goo file goes here)

Resource\misc (items.dat file goes here)

An explanation of items.dat.

This is an OPTIONAL file (you may have to create "misc" sub folder).
Basically how MOTS CTF works is that it changes the Ysalamiri from KFY mode to the CTF flag(s). So when you pickup the Flag, it uses the icon of the Ysalamiri (we call it "The slug" for short, heh).

So all items.dat does is uses the flag icon instead of the slug when you pick it up. So if you don't want to see a slug icon when you're the flag carrier, use items.dat (and remove it when you play KFY if you don't want to see the flag icon on your display when you grab the slug instead of the proper icon).

It's purely aesthetic on your end (to give it that last bit of authenticity), and won't affect actual gameplay one way or the other.


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Old 09-01-2006, 12:10 PM   #68
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Just a note to everyone... TGIF! It's the weekend (at last).

Sadly, I have to work Sat. and Sunday afternoons AND I have a paper due Tuesday, so I'll have to spend some time working on that. I planned to go to a movie this evening (either around 7 or 10), but though I'll be in 'n' out, the server will be going up soon and stay up for as long as I can keep it up (same IP!).

We'll start with KFY (that's always fun) and if we can get enough people together tonight, Sat or Sun we can try for some MotS CTF.



I will have ICQ off most of the time the server is up though, because if I get a message, the game is minimized and that interrupts the map cycling if I'm not there at the comp, so, please message me here for the easiest way to contact, or IM one of the other regular players (like Wilhuf).

QTracker isn't working for me yet with MotS, so don't bother checking it for now.

PS: I could try running x-fire, my account is kurganx (iirc) or just "Kurgan."
Then again, I don't think MotS is "supported" by xfire (whatever that means.. since JK itself is listed)


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Old 09-01-2006, 01:23 PM   #69
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YaY! gotta love weekends. well, if you didnt have to work . ok ill be there tonight. thanks for all help. see you all soon.


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Old 09-01-2006, 03:35 PM   #70
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Sucks you gotta work, but I'll be able to play definatly. I'll get it all set up and running tonight.

Also, can you run a dedicated server? Because if I can figure it out, I got a spare PIII computer that I could run it on, I got a 5mbps down/768k up connection.

Get me some info, maybe I can get that set-up.


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Old 09-01-2006, 07:07 PM   #71
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BB, I'm not precisely sure how the one at NarShaddaa.net works, but there was no official dedicated server software. JK is a peer to peer game, so essentially how a JK or MotS server works is that it's just setup with the game running (you can't be alt+tabbed out of it, because the game will fail to cycle properly) and you just not playing but leaving it open for people to play and letting them know the IP.

There is Qtracker (via QTUplink) to post your server to a master list, but again it's not truly dedicated, and the current version of QT I think is bugged (at least one other person claims that besides me) and needs to be fixed.

So it's more like you're running a listen server constantly.

Btw, the game is back up. 69.180.215.175

Sorry about earlier, I forgot to shut down ICQ, so it was interrupted about 25 mins after the third map change or so.


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Old 09-01-2006, 07:36 PM   #72
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That's awesome. Does the demo let you play multiplayer?


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Old 09-01-2006, 07:44 PM   #73
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I keep missing it.. i think its the time difference..

Maybe i'll try it now.. though i'm not sure what it would be like when you are drunk..

headache inducing probably..



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hmm dont know if yall are still playing currently but ill come and play.


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Old 09-01-2006, 09:51 PM   #75
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hmmm only see one. ill stick around for awhile and see if yall come back.


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Old 09-02-2006, 02:40 AM   #76
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That's awesome. Does the demo let you play multiplayer?
Sadly no. It's just the first level of single player. There's no MP demo for MotS.


Btw, you guys I'm taking the server down for tonight. I left it up for at least eight hours and it doesn't appear anyone showed. That's okay, Friday night isn't always that free for everyone (or they have "better things" to do than play MotS.. which is heresy I tell you!).

Anyway, when I get up tomorrow at least before I leave for work I'll fire up the server again and leave it up cycling properly (which means Trillian goes off).

During the week I'm pretty danged busy. I have classes every morning all week long, I work Wed afternoon, and also sat & sun afternoon (the job's a breeze, but I am stuck sitting at a desk with a mac). Thursday I am basically tied up until 7pm at night with my 3 hour class. I have at least two quizzes a week, so there's studying to be done, blah blah blah, any university or grad students know the drill. But I'm perfectly willing to run the server in my absence so you guys can join and you can coordinate your games so you aren't coming alone hoping to find somebody and going away empty handed.


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Old 09-02-2006, 09:10 AM   #77
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Man that pretty stinks there Kurgan. Well, what you expect for colleges. I would atleast think you would be off on monday since its Labor day. I would be happy to play with anyone during the whole week. just give me an email @ www.DogloverRoss08@aol.com . when you all would like to play. otherwise im writing this cause i dont wanna get lefto out. lol


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Old 09-02-2006, 12:59 PM   #78
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I'm not even sure we get Labor Day off (anti-unionists!)...


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Old 09-02-2006, 01:22 PM   #79
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LOL. Gotta thank the unions for one thing though. Labor day. most people are off on that day. SUcks though if you dont get off.


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Server's up (off to work for me). Same IP, enjoy!


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