lfnetwork.com mark read register faq members calendar

Thread: Gargantuan (especially in raid fleets)
Thread Tools Display Modes
Post a new thread. Add a reply to this thread. Indicate all threads in this forum as read. Subscribe to this forum. RSS feed: this forum RSS feed: all forums
Old 12-05-2006, 01:53 PM   #1
YertyL
Junior Member
 
YertyL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Germany
Posts: 390
Gargantuan (especially in raid fleets)

OK, does anybody else have a feeling that old Garn is just too hard to counter?
I mean, this unit has:

-Heavy and rapidly regenerating shields
-better-than-average speed and manouverability
-the heaviest weaponry of all units in the game (arguably)
-the ability to waltz over anything (only exception being the AT-AT AFAIK)
-a commander bonus and transport capabilities

Now while the ZC has some weapons that can bypass shields and thus eventually destroy the Gargantuan (e.g. Canderous tanks, mobile rocket launcher, MDUs), the Empire has about 1 unit that is able to harm it, the DT3, and that is a tech lvl 5 unit that can only be produced at one planet at a time - in short, a very rare one.
Every Rebel player with some micromanaging capabilities will IMO have no problem keeping the G.'s shielding constantly up, as even numerous AT-AT salvos won't depleet the Gargantuan's shields before it has time to retreat.

I'd suggest making the G. unable to participate in raids, at least limiting the planets at which an Imp player can be attacked by the unit.
I'd also suggest somewhat decreasing the G.'s shielding and/or shield regeneration, so that at least concentrated fire has a chance to damage it before it can retreat again, and perhaps slightly lowering its speed to decrease the effectiveness of hit-and-run as well as waltzing attacks.

What do you think?
YertyL is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 12-05-2006, 02:14 PM   #2
ImpElite
Junior Member
 
ImpElite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 451
Well, having played the rebels against a friend who was Consortium there are a few ways to counter him, 1 with Canderous tanks, if you take out the Shield Generators he is unable to do his special ability and enables your Laser weapon allys to start inflicting damage. 2 Orbital Bombardment, if you manage to cut off means of escape (pushing him into a corner) an orbital bombardment or maybe even a bombing run could work, you just have to keep him still for a couple seconds.


ex-UEAW Mod Team Mapper.


ImpElite is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 12-05-2006, 03:16 PM   #3
YertyL
Junior Member
 
YertyL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Germany
Posts: 390
Well, I agree that the ZC isn't as badly off as the Empire vs. the Gargantuan (see also my first post...). However consider a GC Empire vs. Rebs - when you get attacked, there's no way to use an orbital bombardement, and you can't get DT3s until you reach tech level 5.

And anyways, how balanced is a unit that can only be taken down by orbital bombardements?
YertyL is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 12-05-2006, 04:51 PM   #4
PoiuyWired
Unregistered User
 
PoiuyWired's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 3,503
Would using the emperor or vader work?
PoiuyWired is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 12-05-2006, 06:12 PM   #5
Docter_Aap
Rookie
 
Docter_Aap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Holland
Posts: 193
No it doesnt. They get pwn3d before being able to do anything at all.
Docter_Aap is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 12-05-2006, 07:56 PM   #6
Slocket
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 309
Petro advice says Turbolaser Towers will counter the Gargantian.
Slocket is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 12-06-2006, 10:44 AM   #7
YertyL
Junior Member
 
YertyL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Germany
Posts: 390
Yeah I know, however I would consider turbolasers just like orbital bombardements to be a "super weapon" (that counters about anything) rather than a real counter.
The Gargantuan IMO needs more weaknesses to regular units (and that's neither DT3 (which is at least "special"), nor turbolasers nor bombardements )
YertyL is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 12-06-2006, 10:45 AM   #8
Docter_Aap
Rookie
 
Docter_Aap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Holland
Posts: 193
I think they should remove it
Docter_Aap is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 12-07-2006, 01:08 PM   #9
Inferno™
Lurker
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 5
I used Colonel Veers's atat super blast on him, killed his shields, over half of his turrets and badly damaged the rest.
Inferno™ is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 12-07-2006, 01:37 PM   #10
lordzack
Rookie
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 165
Quote:
Originally Posted by Docter_Aap
I think they should remove it
What's the fun in that? I love using the Garguantuan. I even love fighting it. If they just balance it more it will be fine.
lordzack is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 12-07-2006, 04:57 PM   #11
HerbieZ
Mythical Beast
 
HerbieZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Manchester, England
Posts: 2,053
Louie the Rancor (Nightsister special) seems to do an awesome job of pounding the Garg into submission. Try it.


Waking up.
HerbieZ is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 12-15-2006, 09:36 PM   #12
mrsparkle
 
mrsparkle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 69
Mine was Cuddles the Rancor How cute. Anyway yes it's a bit overpowered, but not as overpowere as canderous tanks (which you can have multiples of).
mrsparkle is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 01-09-2007, 01:12 AM   #13
JoesGuy
Rookie
 
JoesGuy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 158
I say what I said in another thread - You Empire-using cheaters need to get over it. The Rebels would be dangerously (?) underpowered if it weren't for Yoda and Garm. It's just the way it goes, hell they have to balance it for the Rebellion as well.


The Joe's Corp is watching you. Be afraid.

Because I have so much personality, posting quotes by other people in my signature, by which I govern my life by, makes me the equivalent of god.

JoesGuy is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Post a new thread. Add a reply to this thread. Indicate all threads in this forum as read. Subscribe to this forum. RSS feed: this forum RSS feed: all forums
Go Back   LucasForums > Network > Empire At War > EaW General Discussion > Forces of Corruption > Gargantuan (especially in raid fleets)

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:11 AM.

LFNetwork, LLC ©2002-2011 - All rights reserved.
Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.