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Old 08-22-2007, 03:52 AM   #1
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How about some other force sensitive groups?

Between bane rebuilding the sith and dissappearing into the abstract to strengthen them and palpatine's rise to power, there were other groups.

Bpfashi: some 400 years BBY, there was this dark side cult.
Yoda as a brash and rebellious young (well for HIS species) jedi knight and defeated their leader on dagobah...I suspect this area was near that cave where luke confronted a vision of himself as vader in ESB.

Khadan and his prophets. Palpatine did not recognize him as a sith, but made an order with him and his prophets. Khadan was once a jedi knight,but he became disillusioned and distanced from the jedi. In time, palpatine sought him out. I'll leave the rest for you all to find out.

Tersa Khasi, I see little done on this end.

Echani, not a bad start in TSL.

Mandalorians, I rather liked sheruuk as an enemy--too bad you have to mod it to get him to use a lightsaber (TY to whoever made that mod--I hear there is another though.) Some force sensitive mandalorians too much to ask?

These are just examples. Does anybody agree? Disagree?
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Old 08-22-2007, 09:54 AM   #2
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Bpfashi: some 400 years BBY, there was this dark side cult.
Yoda as a brash and rebellious young (well for HIS species) jedi knight and defeated their leader on dagobah...I suspect this area was near that cave where luke confronted a vision of himself as vader in ESB.

I'm fairly confident George Lucas said Yoda had never been to Dagobah before his seclusion.


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Old 08-22-2007, 09:42 PM   #4
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LF: True. I've seen the statement somewhere on wookiepedia, but I don't remember where it was referenced. The world of Dagobah was already saturated in DS force energy though, and no explanation has ever been given as to what event brought that situation into being. That does seem to point to DS force users spending time there, or an evil act of some magnitude occuring somewhere on the world.

totenkopf: The witches of Dathomir are one of 3 orders of non-jedi/non-sith force user religions still around as of the regular series. It might be interesting to see a group that may in part have inspired them. though it does state that they learned what they did of the force from a jedi who crash landed and taught much of what she knew of the force to the female natives of the world.

GTAswcity: Knights of the Old Republic 2 also has items that refer to other force using religions, like the Zeishon Sha, and Baron Do. If I remember right both are LS force using religions. Baran Do has more of a physical than a spiritual focus like the Jedi religion. Zeishon Sha had more of a mental than a spiriatual focus.

Normally, echani are trained in resisting force powers, so if you had an echani jedi as the pc, you'd have a jedi unusually resistant to force powers of other jedi. If the echani individual never trained as a jedi, they'd be an anti jedi warrior with no force powers, but with the potential to be spectacular in combat. Might be interesting to have an echani jedi.

Tersa Khasi, we have not heard anything indicating that it's been invented yet. I don't think it would fit the story to suddenly have a fully trained Tersa Khasi warrior as the PC, or have him/her recruit from an already existing order. Perhaps to have a martial artist you encounter to invent it on account of an encounter with your PC though might be interesting.
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Old 08-23-2007, 03:23 AM   #5
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Some good Force Sensitive groups would be the Baran Do Sages, if for nothing else than to have Kel Dor in the game, and the Order of Shasa, which was formed by the Selkath Shasa, who, if you remember, was the daughter of the Selkath in K1 who wanted you to find the missing Selkath youth. That order lasted up to the Galactic Civil War, where Vader manipulated them. Perhaps the player would have a hand in forming the Order of Shasa?

Besides that, I can't think of many more Force Sensitive groups I would want to see besides the obvious: Jedi and Sith. And of course the True Sith.

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Old 08-23-2007, 05:33 PM   #6
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I always wanted to see the Baran Do and Zeison Sha . . .
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Old 08-23-2007, 05:34 PM   #7
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There is an Infinite Episode in Star Wars Tales that features a "yodarian" jedi knight and the defeat of a powerful Darksider on Dagobah, and that is used to explain the whole darkside energy thing on that planet. that is NOT YODA, but yes it is infinite so we don't know if it is valid or not.
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Old 08-23-2007, 05:44 PM   #8
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totenkopf: The witches of Dathomir are one of 3 orders of non-jedi/non-sith force user religions still around as of the regular series. It might be interesting to see a group that may in part have inspired them. though it does state that they learned what they did of the force from a jedi who crash landed and taught much of what she knew of the force to the female natives of the world.
True, they may have learned how to tap into the force from a jedi, but they were apparently force sensitive anyway, with unrealized potential. They also were the only group I could think of that weren't either jedi/sith.


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Old 08-23-2007, 06:26 PM   #9
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I've finished the Hand of Thrawn Duology a few days ago, and it was explained that it was Yoda who defeated the Bpfasshi dark Jedi on Dagobah. But that was after his exile in 19 BBY.

Anyway, it'd be nice to see some other Force sensitive groups. As mentioned before, the Zeison Sha and Baran Do Sages, and maybe the Sorcerers of Tund (although I'm not sure if they existed already in the Kotor Era), the Krath and the Jal Shey. Now that I think of it, we already got the Rakatan and the Gand Findsmen as Force sensitive groups in Kotor1 and 2.
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Old 08-25-2007, 06:53 PM   #10
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I'm fairly confident George Lucas said Yoda had never been to Dagobah before his seclusion.
Then it was probably some other of yoda's species in the jedi order. Pouiy
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The comic where the yoda type creature defeated Bpfash on Dagobah was called "minch"--just thought it might have been another name for yoda--I wasn't aware uncle george himself said that tho. My bad.
It (comic) may not necessarily be Canon, but Bpffashi is, as it was referenced in Jedi Trial which is canon. That's the one novel where Nejaa Halcyon (very close to being a grey jedi if you have found anything out about him) chose Anakin as his second in command to retake praesitlyn.

I'm up for the force sensitive mandalorians bit. As well as anything else.

Teras khasi, since their inception believed, early on in the existence of the jedi, that they needed to be watched over. To keen an eye on then, so to speak. It may just be semantics, but I believe that implies they have been around for some significant period of time.

I'm glad to see others agree or at least acknowledge--won't you all at least elaborate a bit?

If anybody disagrees, cite why.

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Old 08-25-2007, 08:47 PM   #11
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Perhaps we could see them on Kotor 3, looking at them doing what they're meant to do well. Like, a Jal Shey ambassador, and a Baran Do monk.

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Now that I think of it, we already got the Rakatan and the Gand Findsmen as Force sensitive groups in Kotor1 and 2.
Are Gand Force sensitives?


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Old 09-05-2007, 12:54 AM   #12
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Yep, Gand Findsman utilize their "magic" to help them track captives down with amazing acuracey, I beleive that bit of information can be found in the New Essential Guide to Alien Species. In any case, I would like to see Baran Do seers, Jal Shey, and possibly Zeison Sha warriors. As for the Masters of Teras Kasi, I think they predated the Republic, since Arden Lyn was trained by them, presumably before her mellinia long snooze. I don't think their are any Krath dark side adepts left, to change the subject, I thought most of those rotten Tetans got their due after Kun killed off the last remnant of the Sith (that is, the Massassi) to save his nasty self from the Jedi bombardment. I know the Zabrak also have a strong warrior tradition, possibly why Sideous chose *dundudundunda!* : POST SCRIPT: Darth Mual anoys me almost as much as Padme does.
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Not all Gands are capable of being findsman, but findsman is the Gand's "force culture"

Many cultures have such tradition. Things like Kiffar have around 1% chance of being really force sensative, so obviously they have that guardian thing going. There are also species that are almost all force sensative, like bald black guys.
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The Rakatan people were once able to use the force.

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Old 10-22-2007, 04:06 PM   #16
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Between bane rebuilding the sith and dissappearing into the abstract to strengthen them and palpatine's rise to power, there were other groups.

Bpfashi: some 400 years BBY, there was this dark side cult.
Yoda as a brash and rebellious young (well for HIS species) jedi knight and defeated their leader on dagobah...I suspect this area was near that cave where luke confronted a vision of himself as vader in ESB.

Khadan and his prophets. Palpatine did not recognize him as a sith, but made an order with him and his prophets. Khadan was once a jedi knight,but he became disillusioned and distanced from the jedi. In time, palpatine sought him out. I'll leave the rest for you all to find out.

Tersa Khasi, I see little done on this end.

Echani, not a bad start in TSL.

Mandalorians, I rather liked sheruuk as an enemy--too bad you have to mod it to get him to use a lightsaber (TY to whoever made that mod--I hear there is another though.) Some force sensitive mandalorians too much to ask?

These are just examples. Does anybody agree? Disagree?
Good until you hit these last few...

Teras Kasi is not a Force culture, but a martial art (Star Wars equivalent of karate basically). But let's face it, the only people who could really put that to use on a battlefield and live would probably be Jedi/Sith...

Echani are a warrior culture, not a Force Sensitive group. Obviously as with every large population it bears Force Sensitives, but they are not the norm, like the galaxy at large. And we don't see Mandalorian Jedi because they'd have to leave the Mandalorians to become a member of the Jedi or Sith orders...still, we can dream...and we can mod...woohoo!

As others have mentioned, it'd be cool to have the Baran Do, Jal-Shey, Zeison Sha, and other groups from the KotOR era...maybe we could even see the Order of Shasa in it's infancy in K3. XD
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Once.
Did I not say once??


Other than that, I agree with all that has been said.

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Old 10-23-2007, 02:28 PM   #18
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Well the trith sith seem to have come up from nowhere; seems only fair a force for good should spring up to fight it. A new force-using speicies could be found in the unknown regions. They could be a relatively small population; and could be wiped out by the end of the game. Of course you'll choose if that happens or not.
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