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Old 02-14-2008, 03:07 PM   #801
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For all the people who don't have any of the next-gen systems, of course! They are making TFU for PS2, and the next-gen systems, so why can't Bioware do the same? Just a thought. I guess if the game ever does come out for the next-gen systems I will have to hold out on getting it. For a while at least.
Making games for the original Xbox has been discontinued.

I think this has all but been confirmed. Hopefully we'll hear something official soon besides them saying it was a slip up.


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Old 02-14-2008, 07:29 PM   #802
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KOTOR's Future Uncertain at IGN

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LucasArts confirms MMO, but it's not Knights of the Old Republic.

February 14, 2008 - IGN recently reported on a list of upcoming games unveiled at EA's latest investor's meeting. During a presentation entitled "Best Creative Talent," EA touched on a number of titles that were considered the pinnacle of design, putting amazing creative talent to work on building inspiring worlds and impressive games. Along with the announcement of new titles from EA, a slide showing some titles (both old and new) was showcased during the conference. While some games, BioWare's "New MMO" included, are obviously referencing games to come, EA has contacted us further and commented that not every game mentioned is upcoming.

So where does BioWare stand in all of this? We know there's a new MMO on the way, and that both EA and LucasArts have acknowledged this publicly, but there's no definite answer on whether or not we'll see KOTOR's return in the future. In contacting LucasArts about its works with BioWare, and the possibility of a future KOTOR product, the company stated that, "Yes, we are working with BioWare. We've announced that we're working with the developer on a project, but it has nothing to do with Knights of the Old Republic."

We'll have more news on BioWare's MMO, and future LucasArts projects, as news develops.

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Old 02-14-2008, 07:53 PM   #803
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Hmmm... Wish Bozon from IGN had cited who from LucasArts made this statement. I certainly hope we get news of KotOR 3 sometime this year.


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Old 02-14-2008, 09:10 PM   #804
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Yeah, thats a HUGE let down. What could they be working on if its not KotOR, and why anything else? It's so obvious that all the LucasArts and Bioware fans want KotOR the most, why not give it to us? UGH.


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Old 02-14-2008, 09:28 PM   #805
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Well, they said that what they're working on has nothing to do with KotOR, but what they didn't say was whether it had anything to do with Star Wars or not, so it probably is set around the films, whatever it is, which is a letdown for me I was really hoping for a KotOR MMO or KotOR III.

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That stinks. We probably won't see a KotOR III for a little while longer. Or, a lot a while longer...
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Old 02-15-2008, 09:47 AM   #807
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Wish Bozon from IGN had cited who from LucasArts made this statement. I certainly hope we get news of KotOR 3 sometime this year.
Me too, for both the former and latter. I saw it last night and reported it for EU Cantina, but I was disappointed by the lack of citation. I'm glad it finally clears come of the confusion up, although fanboys/girls will be fanboys/girls.

I'm guessing and hoping that after TFU we'll hear about both the Bioware & LA project, which I'm thinking is a new SW MMO or a revamp on Galaxies (can Bioware acquire the contract?). As for Obsidian, check out this article about a new job opening. Pretty interesting...


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Old 02-15-2008, 11:01 AM   #808
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Old 02-15-2008, 08:52 PM   #809
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I don't want a stupid MMO. SPRPG!!!!!! That site is a crock anyways, BioWare won't be saying anything until LA tells them to, and they're certainly not going to in regards to KOTOR. We'll never see #3, it's already been 4 years.
You can never give up hope. Oblivion was released in 2006 nearly 5 years after Morrowind. When the game series was already beginning to die out. Half life 2 was released in 2004 almost 6 years after the first Half Life

Games can always be popular and since Kotor has been getting a lot of attention we are bound to have a sequel soon


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Actually, IGN wasn't the first, nor last, to post it. It was very interesting and it actually, for a little bit, made some sense. However, I think this should teach everyone to only trust LA, Obsidian, or another's developer's word.


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Old 02-27-2008, 01:31 PM   #811
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KotOR III Concept art found? canceled, or in the works?..

Article: http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/News-116147.aspx

Concept Art: http://s226.photobucket.com/albums/d...undPeg/KOTOR3/



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Old 02-27-2008, 01:48 PM   #812
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KotOR III Concept art found? canceled, or in the works?..

Article: http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/News-116147.aspx

Concept Art: http://s226.photobucket.com/albums/d...undPeg/KOTOR3/
Probably, but I wouldn't get too excited. The dates on the pics are all August of 2004.
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Old 02-27-2008, 01:53 PM   #813
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Was my first impression aswell Have, 2004 dated on many of the pics. So it can be TSL concept art aswell. Seeing how lucasarts pushed obsidian to release TSL i doubt they would spend 4 years on Kotor3.
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Old 02-27-2008, 01:55 PM   #814
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Interesting. It certainly looks like Star Wars concept art. Whether or not it belongs to KotOR III is anyone's guess, but like Adept Havelock said, I wouldn't get too excited.

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Old 02-27-2008, 01:58 PM   #815
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Interesting. It certainly looks like Star Wars concept art. Whether or not it belongs to KotOR III is anyone's guess, but like Adept Havelock said, I wouldn't get too excited.
Dates of photo's noted, and excitement under wraps on first viewing
Just thought folks might wanna see it


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Old 02-27-2008, 02:24 PM   #816
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Looks nice. Could've been KotORIII concept art, if so, probably from the canceled project.

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Old 02-27-2008, 06:19 PM   #817
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http://www.jzconcepts.com/images/website/hidden_links/

It does say KOTOR 3. Which has to mean that they either canceled it, post postponed it, or have been taking their time.
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Old 02-27-2008, 07:08 PM   #818
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Ye that point is for sure valid, but it does not really mean KotOR3 is in works or planned, could be they had TSL and K3 planned allready because the first game was so nice and when the rushed TSL wasnt as successful they decided against it.

But well:-) we shall see...hopefully anytime soon what the "LA/Bioware interactive conspiracy product" and the "TopSecret mysterious infamous Bioware MMO" are about
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Old 02-28-2008, 08:54 AM   #819
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But well:-) we shall see...hopefully anytime soon what the "LA/Bioware interactive conspiracy product" and the "TopSecret mysterious infamous Bioware MMO" are about
First. We already know the "LA/Bioware interactive conspiracy product" is NOT Kotor. LucasArts confirmed this:
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Second. EA said that "The MMO in development at BioWare Austin is listed a 'New MMO,'". I think there's little room for a speculation here.

And finally, Chris Priestly from Bioware cut off all the speculation:
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I can say there is no KotOR3 from BioWare since there is no KotOR3 from BioWare.
Bioware is NOT working on Kotor 3, neither on Kotor MMORPG. And it seems that Obsidian is not either, since they're currently busy with developing Aliens RPG game, and unannounced title for Sega. Wich means Kotor 3/MMO is not being developed at this time.

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Some interesting discovery. I typed "Dashaad" in Google, and came across www.studiodenmark.com, wich appears to be a website of artworks/illustrations/concepts designers. One of them is Molly Denmark, who has worked copule of times for LusacArts already. I checked her gallery, and found this:

Dashaad:


Taloraan:


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Right now I'm 100% sure these (as well as James Zhang's ones) are indeed the concepts from cancelled Kotor3 project. It seems that pre-development started in the middle of 2004 (and after short time the project was cancelled. What a coincidence. It happened shortly Jim Ward became LucasArts President). The pictures I posted have 2004 date on them. Same as in Zhang's. Also, the name of planet Dashaad appears + you can see the same ship as in this James Zhang artwork. A little comprasion:




No more proofs needed. All of the concepts looks great! Hopefully more will leak!

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Old 02-28-2008, 10:18 AM   #820
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After looking at the wonderful concept art I wonder...

What if LA just wanted to wait until better gaming technology came out? So they can improve the graphics and game play.
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Old 02-28-2008, 10:47 AM   #821
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You know.......the gaming industry has these things called Non-Disclosure Agreements that they make people sign if they want to keep things under very tight wraps and if you do something to jeopardize that secrecy then you'll get fired. What if all LA and BioWare and EA employees with ties to a KOTOR 3 project have been made to sign a NDA? They could vehemently deny it even if it were true.


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Old 02-28-2008, 11:16 AM   #822
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Well after seeing these concepts its obvious that they afaik at least had K3 in mind and did some early work on it. I just hope they pick this up again or all kept lying to us and then in some weeks or month perform a : "Hey, sup guys? did we mention that Kotor3 is ready?! no? oh sorry for that here it is" + "Ow BiowareMMO got renamed to KotOR MMO" ...no one can deny us some dreamin eh?:-)
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That concept art is amazing. I too hope some more (if there is more) will leak. The Sith Troop Transport might be a dead givaway, but that was in 2004....

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Old 02-28-2008, 11:34 PM   #824
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First. We already know the "LA/Bioware interactive conspiracy product" is NOT Kotor. LucasArts confirmed this:
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"We've announced that we're working with the developer on a project, but it has nothing to do with Knights of the Old Republic."
I was rather skeptical when I read this article by Bozon of IGN since the sub-title of the article is "LucasArts confirms MMO, but it's not Knights of the Old Republic." I know of no such confirmation of an MMO from LucasArts. Of course it wouldn't be a surprise if LucasArts is working on a new MMO but as far as I know LucasArts hasn't confirmed any MMO development apart from SWG. And I also didn't care for the fact that Bozon didn't provide a name for his source at LucasArts. All-in all fairly sloppy reporting that made me wonder if he got the quote right.
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Second. EA said that "The MMO in development at BioWare Austin is listed a 'New MMO,'". I think there's little room for a speculation here.

And finally, Chris Priestly from Bioware cut off all the speculation:
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I can say there is no KotOR3 from BioWare since there is no KotOR3 from BioWare.
Bioware is NOT working on Kotor 3, neither on Kotor MMORPG. And it seems that Obsidian is not either, since they're currently busy with developing Aliens RPG game, and unannounced title for Sega. Wich means Kotor 3/MMO is not being developed at this time.
Alas my hopes for KotOR 3 have been dashed once again. I don't know if I'm willing to subject myself to much more KotOR 3 torture.
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And looking above, the hiddenlinks web page is no longer working. Which means, LA knows we know. Lol
Yeah, LucasArts should be quite aware of these images at this point but my guess is the hidden links web page on James Zhang's personal website were taken down by Mr. Zhang himself since all the hits those pictures were taken exceeded his site's bandwidth allocation and made it inaccessible.


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Old 02-29-2008, 12:09 AM   #825
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my guess is the hidden links web page on James Zhang's personal website were taken down by Mr. Zhang himself since all the hits those pictures were taken exceeded his site's bandwidth allocation and made it inaccessible.
That too. Lmao

Char Ell, do you think we'll get a statement about these discoveries from LA?
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I dont think they will, there has been so much rumours, conspiracy about it and they havnt made a statement yet. Bioware stated sth, and EA did but i havnt seen LA answering any question, and even the denials are written in a way that leaves allmost everything uncertain.

The denial of the IGN news for example was formulated like this "we are not _neccesarily_ making KotOR3 atm" could mean "we dont" or "we are but we dont tell you if we are".

I hope that the next GamesConvention in Leipzig will bring up some news of all the projects LA and Bioware are working on atm.
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Old 03-01-2008, 02:12 PM   #827
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Char Ell, do you think we'll get a statement about these discoveries from LA?
No, I don't think LA will release any official statement. Maybe someone from LucasArts will make an off-hand comment in an interview but I think that is most we can expect.


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Old 03-01-2008, 02:18 PM   #828
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Looks to me more like concept art for TFU. After all, TFU and a supposed "Kotor 3" have been known to be confused a lot.
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Old 03-01-2008, 03:10 PM   #829
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Agreed, the picture of the planet/facility called taloraan is basically this place in TFU... (Probably the skies of Raxus Prime)



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Old 03-01-2008, 08:47 PM   #830
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Well LA has said that they werent sure in the start in what timeline TFU should be placed, or if it should be some sort of a sequel to KotOR. So it wouldnt be a surprise to me if these concepts were made for the game now known as The Force Unleashed.
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The artwork came from a folder on James Zhang's site titled KOTOR 3. Therefor it is not for TFU.
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I know that fact, it doesnt say anything tho as i said LA wasnt sure if they are going to make a K3 or a game in KotOR universe so it wouldnt be to surprising if JZ made concepts for sth that was back then meant for a Kotor game.

The concepts from MollyDenmark arent labeled as K3 concepts for example and its possible that they recycled some of the concepts for TFU.
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The artwork came from a folder on James Zhang's site titled KOTOR 3. Therefor it is not for TFU.
Where is that folder. I did not find it...

EDIT: Found them meyself. Thanks! Date is of 2004 (!).
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Old 03-03-2008, 07:28 AM   #834
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The artwork came from a folder on James Zhang's site titled KOTOR 3. Therefor it is not for TFU.
The latest information calls that into question:
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The latest information calls that into question:
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The artwork was in a folder on his personal website (I saw it) and people then saved the pics to their own photobucket accounts.
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If you look at Zhang's images, they appear to have a 'KotOR II' theme. I wonder if these were left over concepts for 'KotOR II', which were done in house at Lucas Arts.

Could LucasArts wanted to work on 'KotOR II' in house, so they started on a series of concepts?

Could these have been the concepts for the canceled 'KotOR III', which they started some time in 2004/2005?

I think people are jumping to conclusions too soon. I think both questions above can be argued. The female clothing for Naresha looks like it belongs to Bastila. Vargess is definitely a Czerka officer.

Another thought that came to mind is: Could this be the 'KotOR' theme, which was supposed to be used before "The Force Unleashed" was revamped?

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Old 03-05-2008, 03:59 PM   #837
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I honestly don't care who works on kotor 3. As long as it gets done, fully. Both Obsidian and Bioware are qualified. Oh well, back to mindlessly hoping and waiting.

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Another Star Wars MMO rumor

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After BioWare and LucasArts made a deal last year to work together, the internet was ablaze with speculation about a new Star Wars MMO in the works. It makes sense considering the popularity of the Knights of the Old Republic series from BioWare and the much poorer status among fans of the non-BioWare Star Wars Galaxies. We more recently reported that the game was in fact a new MMO set in the KOTOR framework, a claim that was quickly denied by Electronic Arts.

Today, a tipster contacted 1UP with portions of a script for what was said to be a "Star Wars online" game. The script's description of the game reads:

"This is a role-playing game set in the historical past of the Star Wars universe. Jedi and Sith battle across the galaxy with the power of the Force and are joined by soldiers, politicians and nobles. Players must choose the destinies of heroes and villains in a thrilling and dangerous universe."

Historical past? Jedi and Sith battling across the galaxy? To we Star Wars nerds, that sounds quite a bit like the "Old Republic" timeline, which BioWare Senior Writer Drew Karpyshyn helped flesh out with the KOTOR series and by penning the Darth Bane novels.

The script goes on to show an exchange between the player and a character named Fuse, a naive bomb designer. The portions of the script that we received are fairly heavy with dialog, which isn't typical for an MMORPG, but it does read very much like a script to a KOTOR game. This could mean that the two projects are still separate. On the other hand, the game was described to the tipster as an MMO, and "heavy dialog" is practically BioWare's calling card.

1UP contacted LucasArts about the script pages we saw, but unsurprisingly their response was not forthcoming: ""We don't have any comment beyond what we've already announced."

This isn't quite a smoking gun blaster yet, and our contact isn't Deep Throat; but the script looked legitimate and the style and tone of it shares a lot in common with the BioWare games we already know, including the more recent (but fairly similar) Mass Effect. We'll keep you posted as more news surfaces.
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I like that KotOR gets that much attention, but I'd rather get rumors of a Singleplayer Kotor3 than a KotOR MMO. If LucasArts hasn't decided yet, I hope they don't get ideas of all those rumors of a KotOR MMO.
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Well, I can tell you guys that this LA Bioware MMORPG is definitely not KotOR III, which is great news in my book.


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