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Old 01-12-2008, 11:04 AM   #1
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What if WE would have to make KotOR III? Yes, that's right, WE

There's so much desparate people saying, that: "KotOR III will never come out"; "Why don't we even talk about this".
Maybe we'll talk about this that way:

What if we - all of us would write a script for KotOR III and one team would turn that into a mod? Total convertion for TSL? I don't say this is the way i would like it to be, no. I want a new engine for the game ;] Some suprises by our lovely KotORs developers are welcomed as well.

I just want to know what do You think about that. Yeaaaah, i know that sounds.. Mad.
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Old 01-13-2008, 12:58 PM   #2
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Lucasarts would sue the hell out of you. Yes, that's right, YOU. I wouldn't be involved in it.
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Old 01-13-2008, 05:04 PM   #3
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Well, people make total conversion mods all the time. I suppose as long as you don't call it Knights of the Old Republic III, there's really nothing they can do.


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Old 01-13-2008, 05:28 PM   #4
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As long as you don't put a price on it, be my guest.


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Old 01-13-2008, 08:16 PM   #5
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Sure, go ahead. Unfortunately, I'm not sure if you find anybody that would be interested to put in the time or effort. Especially since, AFAIK, K3 hasn't been officially cancelled, so many would rather just wait and buy the actual game....
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Old 01-13-2008, 09:27 PM   #6
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Not likely. Not to be mean, but its not worth the time. Good luck finding...

a) people with enough time on their hands

b) people willing to spend that time on something like making an entire game, crafted within an engine that is not supported, is supposedly difficult to work with, and has no comprehensive construction-set that could do the job of making a whole game with new areas. The engine is quite dated anyways, it was already showing its age with The Sith Lords.

c) people in large numbers skilled and experienced enough to make a professional product.

I don't mean to put you down, but its a better option to seek out new games. I've just gotten into Oblivion, and its fantastic.
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Old 01-18-2008, 05:40 PM   #7
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I didn't say i'm a KotOR maniac (which is obviously true
I also didn't say that i want mod like this to be released, i prefer to see KotOR 3 by our standard, lovely developers.. Or just play Mass Effect. Have You seen that game? It's.. *great*. Just like KotOR, but upgraded soo much and .. It's not really Star Wars, obviously.

And yes, finding people ready to do that mod would take as long as waiting for ready KotOR 3
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Old 01-18-2008, 07:53 PM   #8
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I think that it would be way to hard, and take up way to much time. My two cents.

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Old 01-18-2008, 09:59 PM   #9
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As long as you don't put a price on it, be my guest.
What this guy said though it'll never happen over the net since there's an inherent 58% increase in general unreliability of any person on the net.
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Old 01-19-2008, 02:08 AM   #10
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*Snort*

I've seen this kind of thing before. There's a number of projects that are making "Fan Sequels" For various games. The ones I know best are mostly of old Sierra properties like King's Quest, Quest for Glory, and Space Quest. They're operating on an ancient, VGA system with an engine that's widely available. Take a wild guess at how long the ones I'm aware of have been operating, and still live.

A year? Two? Four? Try eight. None of the ones I am aware of, to date, have finished. Making a Fan Sequel, even if it were merely just a mod, and have it be an acceptable sequel, would...well, by the time it's finished, I'll be playing Mass Effect III.
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Old 01-19-2008, 07:34 AM   #11
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There was actually a fan made KotOR III already underway...

Not sure if it still is though...




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Old 01-19-2008, 12:25 PM   #12
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Might be better to just create a CYA then for K3. Great, you lose the 'omg, combat!!1!!' of KOTOR3, but I thought we prefer RPGs for the storyline.

And that's exactly the reason why I am relucant to support making K3. We play games for the STORYLINE. And, well, uh, storylines usually can go rather terrible indeed, especially if the fans write them. And, well, fan sequels are terrible indeed. But I think it is doable. If you lower your expections. I'd rather that a K3 be made by fans so that people can finally quiet down, and head over to the true heart and soul of the "Knights of the Old Republic" forum, Kavar's Corner. Heh, I might actually be able to counter any plotline made by...Bioware *shudders*.

My only suggestion is to have someone experienced with the KOTOR storyline to write it. I'd recommend Jediphile, and TA.

Oh, and time. Yep, time's going to be a killer.
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Old 02-11-2008, 08:42 PM   #13
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I think there are some fan-made Wing Commander standalone games out there, but I could be wrong...


But yeah, the time to invest in such a game can be significant. I mean, look how long TSLRP has taken (and the impatience from the fanbase that accompanies it). And add to the fact that you can't charge for it, the investment/reward ratio is far too low.

... and if you're going to make it a standalone game, the dev team is going to have to shell out anywhere from $50-500+ (per member) for a game engine (I suppose you could leave out the people who might not need it like the storywriters, voice actors, and maybe a few others).

And yeah, storywriters can be critical, along with any dialog writers.
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Old 02-12-2008, 08:08 AM   #14
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I've never made a mod before, but I'd certainly love to do some of the voice acting. Like they said, it would probably lead to trouble if we declared it "Kotor 3" - so we would need a name. As long as we're not trying to make a profit, I think a mod of that caliber would be a huge success. If this idea turns into a project, send me the dialog scripts.


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Old 02-18-2008, 04:27 PM   #15
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Right now the two things we all anticipated the most aren't happening anymore
1)tslrp
2)kotor3
so that pretty much sums it all up for us, we have to make do with what we've got, and before anyone comments on 1) soon the realisation will hit home, count the days man!


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Old 03-31-2008, 03:03 AM   #16
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Is MEPC going to come with a version of the Unreal Editor? Mapping on that is moderately easy.
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Old 03-31-2008, 05:44 PM   #17
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Right now the two things we all anticipated the most aren't happening anymore
1)tslrp
2)kotor3
so that pretty much sums it all up for us, we have to make do with what we've got, and before anyone comments on 1) soon the realisation will hit home, count the days man!
Wait, they canceled the restoration project?


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Old 03-31-2008, 06:07 PM   #18
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No, TSLRP is alive and well.


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Old 03-31-2008, 06:43 PM   #19
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Yeah, impatience tends to cause delusions like that.
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Old 04-01-2008, 05:34 PM   #20
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let me round up this all and just say

If u mean a total-conversion mod: it would take 11111111111111111 months.

If you really mean it: We will need a game engine, high tech comps and very good brains. You got any on u?


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Old 04-01-2008, 05:38 PM   #21
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Not to mention very good lawyers when LucasArts sues us.

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Old 04-01-2008, 07:43 PM   #22
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Not to mention very good lawyers when LucasArts sues us.
Correction: Not to mention the gr8est lawyers on the planet when Lucasarta sues us.

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Old 04-29-2008, 01:23 AM   #23
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I think there are some fan-made Wing Commander standalone games out there, but I could be wrong...
From what I've heard, Counter-Strike and Day of Defeat were fan-made mods based off of HL orginally. Those became extremely successful, but granted, they were made with the map tools Valve gave out. What we have to work with are programs made by some devoted KOTOR fan, and free technology. YOu simply aaren't going to find enough people to put it together.

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Old 04-29-2008, 01:58 AM   #24
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If anything is going to be announced about K3, it could come out at E3.


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Old 04-29-2008, 04:30 AM   #25
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If anything is going to be announced about K3, it could come out at E3.
I don't know if you know this, but someone said exactly the same thing this time last year.... lol

I'm one of the few that still believes K3 will be made, but even my hope is falling.

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Lucasarts would sue the hell out of you. Yes, that's right, YOU. I wouldn't be involved in it.
More than likely LucasArts would petition a "cease and desist" to those involved with the game's creation, not unlike how Square-Enix put the kibosh on the fanmade "Chrono Resurrection." However, if the game continued with it's progress then by all measn LucasArts would surely sue


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What if we - all of us would write a script for KotOR III and one team would turn that into a mod?
I think you are vastly underestimating the effort involved with writing a full plot for an RPG.

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More than likely LucasArts would petition a "cease and desist" to those involved with the game's creation, not unlike how Square-Enix put the kibosh on the fanmade "Chrono Resurrection." However, if the game continued with it's progress then by all measn LucasArts would surely sue
Yeah, that's why I said to not charge for it. But even then, LA can shot this pretty quick as SE did with this Chrono remake.


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Old 04-29-2008, 09:12 PM   #29
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As long as you don't put a price on it, be my guest.

I am going to second that.


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