[tsl] KOTOR: Revenge of Revan

[Istorian]

Fantastic project, logan! I see that the team you've assembled is great, and you've done much progress so far!! Great work, keep it up!!!

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[NightHammer]

Thanks for the update! It's all looking very good! I know it'll be amazing when it's done.

[logan23]

Hey everyone!


I'm back with some new pictures.

Corellian soldier
http://img106.imageshack.us/my.php?i...alsold1ye0.jpg
http://img106.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cras2uk6.jpg

Bao-Dur
http://img106.imageshack.us/my.php?image=baomm4.jpg
http://img106.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bao2nr2.jpg

I hope to have some more pics and material tomorrow night.

MORE TO COME.....

Logan

[Da_Man_2423]

Looking good as always!

[Sith Holocron]

Originally Posted by logan23

As for your second question about M4-78, I know which modules I will use from the original game. As for asking to use DarthStoney's fixed up M4-78 modules for the Revenge of Revan mod..that is a question better answered by DarthStoney. He put a lot of work into that Mod, and it looks amazing. I would be honored if DarthStoney allowed the use of the Modules and that decision is up to him.

Have you asked Darth Stoney for his permission yet? As a voice over actor in that mod, I'm curious to hear what he has to say. By the by, if you get his (and the other personnel that worked on that mod) permission, I'll provide you with new voice-overs for the M4-78 archon, if he/it makes an appearance in your mod.

M4-78 isn't in it's final form yet, just so you know. Work continues on Darth Stoney's M4-78 mod.

[Hawwi Joshe]

I'm relatively new to this site and I just found this thread, needless to say, I'm blown away by all of this. Very nicely done Logan as well as everyone else that is involved in this project!

[Druganator]

hey uh jw if thats suppoed to be master vandar cuz if it is he doesnt talk like yoda he doesnt have dyslexic sentences

[Carsew]

He said that it is someone else. How did you get the idea that it was Vandar?

[ForeverNight]

No idea how he got that idea...

Well, Logan.... for the Correllian (Sp?) Soldiers... I'd suggest a little bit more re-skinning to make them look a bit less like the Onderanian (Sp?) soldiers...

Maybe change the base uniform color or something... I can't remember exactly what the Onderanian Soldiers look like, so I'm sorry I'm not able to help out with any ideas here...

As for Bao-dur, he looks almost the exact same as in K2... maybe try a little bit of Re-skinning and try to make him look a bit older. I don't know how Zabaraks (Sp?) age, so again I'm unable to provide any ideas outside of just general weathering to his skin... but that's about it.

Glad to see more progress being made on this mod!

[logan23]

Hey everyone!

I wanted to stop in and just give you guys a quick update.

@ ForeverNight – I’m still playing with the replacement color for the orange in the uniform and the diamond shape on the hat. The uniforms are similar to Onderon’s. There is a remark made in the game about this.

Sample of Dialogue
PC talks to his Jedi Master Drayen when they land on Corellia.

*PC “Why do all these royal worlds have the same fashion in uniforms.”

*Drayen “Some could say the same about us. See the Galaxy is large but in a whole we are more a like then we sometime would like to believe.”

I’m working on two major cut scenes as we speak.
I would love to show some pics but it’s hard to find ones that are not plot spoilers.

Today I will discuss the Planet Rattatak.

Rattatak is a world that has not yet been discovered by the Republic.
This world is ruled by a Warlord who believes in the strong survive and the weak should serve them.
There is a battle arena where warriors battle to test their skills in combat. The Warlord controls the planet with an iron fist.
Many warriors including Mandalorians have come to this battle arena to test themselves.
There is a rumor that a Jedi once fought in the arena.
Not everyone leaves the arena alive.
There is a large slave population on the planet.
The city is inside the cliffs of this barren world.
The PC will meet a pary member on this world.
The PC will fight in the arena.
There is something hidden on this world...something from the past....

MORE TO COME........

Logan

[Druganator]

i assumed it was vandar because hes the only member of the "unidentified tridactyl species" in the era of the games granted its a mod so it duzznt matter i jus assumed it might be thats all

[logan23]

Druganator, sorry to disappoint but it is not Vandar since he died on Kattar or at the battle for the star forge.
The character is Ulon Tuain.
Its not star wars without a Yoda

[ForeverNight]

Originally Posted by Logan23

I’m still playing with the replacement color for the orange in the uniform and the diamond shape on the hat. The uniforms are similar to Onderon’s. There is a remark made in the game about this.

Nice to see the point being addressed.

Hmmm.... the Rattak Arena... Does this mean that we could concievably become the "Ruler of Rattak" if we win all the battles? That or pick up a slave or two?

Anyway, glad to see another update.

Oh, and yep, not Star Wars without a Yoda-like-creature.

[logan23]

@ForeverNight- hmmm to own a slave or two...might be helpful on your journey to the dark side or release them later for light side points..
What would be more evil then.....
Take one of your slaves and offer them to fight a warrior in the arena in order to gain points with the Cauldron’s (battle arena) promoter. You see your slave get killed so you can get closer to being able to meet the Warlord. Does the ends justify the means….is this the belief of the Sith.
Or…..maybe you will give the slave a poison blade and kill the strong warrior.
So many choices…….Many moral decisions you will have to make on this world.

When this issue is discussed in the group-
“To sacrifice one slave to save the galaxy….a slave who would have died for nothing …..will now die for a cause and become something more”…..
Cain Thrall
party member(Disciple of Kreia)

MORE TO COME......

Logan

[redrob41]

Hmm... interesting story point if you use the slaves. It has a lot of potential.

[TheExile]

Logan I'm working as we speak.
But do you want me to reskin some clothes, or should we use K1's Canderous' clothes?
Sorry I couldn't contact you earlier, I almost finished my work a week ago, but I donno why, a fatal error appeared to me and I had to reinstall windows. Anyway, this things happen to bigger houses and I recon I will finisih record time

[ForeverNight]

Hmmm... Look's very interesting, I hadn't even though of the Slave issue in that dimension.

But, do we really need another Kreia-like character?

Oh, well.

[TheExile]

YES!!! WE NEED A KREIA-LIKE CHARACTER, cause in TSL you could kill Kreia at the end, this Kreia-like character can be killed in any minute, right Logan xD ?

[logan23]

Cain will not be another Kreia but he does believe in Kreia’s teachings.
If Liana your Jedi friend was the angel on the shoulder, Cain would be the devil telling you ideas which might be seem immoral in other’s eyes. He will tell you ways to influence others. He is a manipulator plain and simple but he is not your teacher. He might end up as your pupil……apprentice if you gain enough influence. I will predict that Cain will become one of the favorites in the game.

As for the idea of killing him any moment in the game, there will be moments in the game where you can kill him. I don’t want to get to involve in the details since it would lead to spoilers.

MORE TO COME.....

Logan

[ForeverNight]

Yeah! We get to kill Cain without him killing Abel!!!!

Speaking of which, is there going to be an NPC named Abel?

Thanks for allowing us to kill him Logan, I think it just made my day.

[2k8hellbound]

Sounds like a great project. For the voice acting you could use voice changing software. this has a 14 day free trial http://www.audio4fun.com/voice-over.htm

[logan23]

2k8hellbound, thanks for the link for the voice changing software!

Just wanted to drop off two pics.

We have one with Uldir alone and another with PC, Drayen ,and Uldir in the palace. The Palace will be reskinned later in production.

http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uldir12ty4.jpg
http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=palacead7.jpg


MORE TO COME......

Logan

[correllian_thug]

nice updates, your doin an awesome job with this, sounding and looking better each time

[redrob41]

Originally Posted by logan23

redrob41, I love the cybernetic eye implant for Nindo! I would say the one on the far right is my favorite so far. Keep up the amazing work!

Originally Posted by Ghost Down

Yeah, far right one for sure!

Originally Posted by Doc Valentine

The one to the far right is the best, as far as I see it. The eye just looks awesome in that one, kind of a Duros Terminator, which is freaking awesome .

Originally Posted by Watcher07

Personally I think the far right one in the photos looks best. The far left one looks a little more organic, but the right one just seems to have more depth like an eye should IMHO. They all look great though, nice job.

Awhile back I was working on a Nindo Bahr with a cybernetic eye. Most people had a favourite (it was my fav as well). I finished up at least a month ago, but silly me, I forgot to post the screen shots. Well, here he is, the finished Nindo:
I've given him a sparkly eye (using CM_Crystal), that looks great as he moves.

In the meantime, I've been nose to the grindstone, working on some new characters. I've pretty much volunteered every time 'cause I've got faith that this mod will be fantastic when completed. Logan has some awesome story ideas!

[logan23]

redrob41, great work!
I can't wait to see the other characters you are working on

I have started to do some re-skinning of modules for the game.
I just doing some here and there, the final modules will be done in post production.
Here are a few for you to look at......
http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?i...istanceyc9.jpg
http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=frontzs9.jpg
http://img123.imageshack.us/my.php?image=figuregg0.jpg
http://img123.imageshack.us/my.php?image=doorpp7.jpg
http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tent2fy1.jpg
nothing huge, but the start of the re-skinning process........

MORE TO COME.....

Logan

[Darth Novotnus]

Logan23, I've got a question: As I can see, one of your main characters is a Chiss. But as I recall, the Chiss made contact with galactic civilization right before the Clone Wars and they were still quite unknown during Grand Admiral Thrawn campain. So, my question is: how did your character find himself in the middle of conflict milenia ago?
Anyway, I can't wait to play this mod.

[redrob41]

I've started working on some new characters. Here is a shot of a Zeltron female.

Her name and story line haven't been finalized; I'll leave that up to the ever capable Logan . This is an early attempt, using some K1 clothes that I made for a different K1 mod. I'll be making completely new clothes for her later, and I'll be refering to Deliah Blue's wardrobe a lot (I even bought a couple Legacy trade paperbacks). For the hair, I liked this picture of Natalie Portman, but colored it more like Deliah.

[Giant Graffiti]

^^^

You did a good job on the head.

I hadn't thought about this until now, but is there an explanation for having a Chiss?

[redrob41]

excerpt from Wookieepedia, Chiss:

There is, in fact, evidence that intermittent, clandestine and low-level encounters between the Chiss and groups within the Old Republic had been ongoing for perhaps four millennia prior to the era of the Galactic Civil War; but these encounters left no visible, lasting impression on the galaxy as a whole, and the isolation of the Chiss can be gauged by the fact that they remained largely unaware of standard languages such as Huttese and Basic ...

It looks like they made a big splash on the galaxy at the time of the Clone Wars, but small encounters may have happened before then.

Now that we're on the topic, the planet Rattatak wasn't known to the galaxy either until the Clone Wars, but it will be a major planet in this mod. Perhaps similar circumstances happened there; that only small contact happened, and was later forgotten to the greater galaxy?

[logan23]

Hey everyone!

redrob41, the Zeltron looks amazing!

Chiss appearance will be explained in the game.
Can't give everything away

I will release the Zeltron's name and info in the coming week.

MORE TO COME.....

Logan

[ben_skywalker]

first : sory for my grammar and spelling (I am, french, and perhaps I will make some Faults so please scuse me )

2nd : very good job!! I like this mod so much!!

logan23 : http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=palacead7.jpg

in this image we can see that master Drayen (if I am in the truth ^^) don't have a skin in the Thumb. I hope that it will be modified!

http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?i...istanceyc9.jpg --> this is dxun^^, isn't it?

if I can help to give a french version of this mod I will be very glad to do it^^
it could be fun to the french comunity to^^

[TheExile]

Yeah, well you know english, those who wanna play the mod also must know english, demanding certain languages for a total conversion mod is something rather considered rude, cause now if they make a french version, why won't they do a german version too?
It's simply to complicated... new dialogs...new VOs...

At least that is my opinion...

~eX~

[redrob41]

Originally Posted by ben_skywalker

if I can help to give a french version of this mod I will be very glad to do it^^
it could be fun to the french comunity to^^

Originally Posted by TheExile

Yeah, well you know english, those who wanna play the mod also must know english, demanding certain languages for a total conversion mod is something rather considered rude, cause now if they make a french version, why won't they do a german version too?
It's simply to complicated... new dialogs...new VOs...

At least that is my opinion...

~eX~

Well, it sounds to me like ben_skywalker is actually offering to help make a French version, not demanding one. I think that it is very considerate of Ben, as long as he is up to the challenge of translating every line of dialog that Logan writes. It would be a huge task. Maybe Logan could chat it up with Ben and see just how easy it would be.

and welcome to the LucasForums ben_skywalker

[redrob41]

Here is a couple of screenshots of how far I've gotten with the Rattataki. So far I've finished 7 playable males and 9 NPC male heads.

I've been having a harder time with the females. There aren't very many head models that are easily converted to look bald (in fact, so far I've only found 1, and it still has environmental lighting problems).

At any rate Logan, this should give you an idea of what various heads are available, so that you can start to plan character dialog. All the PC heads can also be used for NPC characters, and I've made 4 old and 1 ancient NPCs. All that remains now, is to mix & match up different heads with different clothes (rags, armour, basic clothes, etc.) to create different characters.
Logan, let me know if you need more male heads. I'll let you know when I've managed to make some females.

[Divide&Conquer]

Those heads look great redrob41. can't wait to see more of your work.

[TheExile]

Wow! Redrob! You are a great modeler and skinner! Good job!

[PossessedPanda]

Hey, I've been readin all of your updates 4 the past week and I just know joined Lucas Forums, I lost my old password... So anyways I didnt think u'd go through with it but awesome progress. I've have some experience in modding and i'd be happy 2 help if u want. I'll just need 2 get some new modding tools. O and 2 questions, How is gonna install, are you gonna make a installer, Or have them manual install it? and how is it gonna play, are you gonna replace the the Whole Kotor 2 or is there gonna be like a New Button that says "New Game 2" or somethin?? im confuzzled... reply back

[Revan_Pwn_Malak]

I'm not that great of a modder (yet) but I'm pretty sure this will be replacing all of KotOR II.

[PossessedPanda]

Um, i dont quite like the fact that u can look older than your master lol

[Revan_Pwn_Malak]

Originally Posted by PossessedPanda

Um, i dont quite like the fact that u can look older than your master lol

Age matters not to a Jedi. Just remember Nemo, who was still a Padawan if I remember correctly, was way old.