SW:KotORII-TSL Influence Walkthrough

[Lord Sturkie]

In the complete influence guide, there didn't seem to be enough INF opportunities for Atton or Mira, and Bao-Dur was completely missing. Thanks for the guide though, and both the LS and DS walkthroughs are very good.

[Achilles]

Which tab were you looking at?

[Gothic90]

Originally Posted by Achilles

In order to gain sufficient influence you will have to do LS acts which totally kills any attempt to roleplay.

I don't think this kills the attempt to roleplay.
The exile is a complicated person, not just a blind follower of the Jedi Code, or a brute of the Sith.

In fact I think pure LS/DS choices kill the complicated philosophy of the game. For example, there are quests whose first steps are Darksided and have LS outcomes.

Another thing is that it is really, really, really easy to max out Kreia's influence no matter which path you choose to walk. Every lesson of hers comes with an influence gain.

[Shem]

Originally Posted by Gothic90

Another thing is that it is really, really, really easy to max out Kreia's influence no matter which path you choose to walk. Every lesson of hers comes with an influence gain.

Exactly. If you play to lose influence with Kreia, doing those lessons are pointless and in the long run you lose chances for gaining lots of experience points.

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by Gothic90

I don't think this kills the attempt to roleplay.

You're more than welcome to take the resources that I've provided and create your own walkthrough based on your own scope. I only ask that you give me credit in your readme and ask permission first if you decide to include any files from my unofficial dialog patch. Take care.

[Lord Sturkie]

Never Mind, I forgot to look in the other tabs in the spreadsheet, my mistake.
However, the Things (Actions) Tab is kind of confusing, could you please explain how it works to me, I just can't seem to wrap my mind around it.

[Achilles]

There are certain scripted events in the game that contain potential for influence loss or gain with your party members (ala the diseased guy in the refugee sector on Nar Shaddaa, etc).

Normally you alter influence with party members via dialogs that you initiate with them. Basically, these are dialogs that they initiate with you after you've done something that they approve of or disapprove of.

[Pwnzor326]

Man this is great now I have a reason to start my 3rd play-through. When the TSL Restoration Project is done I will probably start my 4th.

[Arátoeldar]

Originally Posted by Pwnzor326

Man this is great now I have a reason to start my 3rd play-through. When the TSL Restoration Project is done I will probably start my 4th.

Just be aware that the influence system has changed in the TSLRP.

[Qr'Vin]

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so if I have less then 10% inf, I could still unlock their bonuses and conversations? Really? If so, I might just hold off of my, what, millionth play through and start a new game; with the helpful mods I've found! Thank you Achilles, you did my thinking for me so I wont get a migrain!

[Sinapus]

Originally Posted by Achilles

I don't remember there being a conditional, but I may have just missed it. If you can confirm it, I'll add it to the walkthrough and give you credit. Thanks!

Sad that it took me this long to get around to it, but I got to that part and nothing happened so it probably should not go into the walkthrough.

[Guilio]

According to this guide, Bao-Dur should get a triple (3x8) influence gain along with Kreia getting a single (8) influence decrease on Nar Shaddaa if I send these two Exchange muscles away peacefully from extorting Ruter (or whatever he's called) near the pit.

However, both with a clean install as well with the RCM I do get -8 on Kreia but only +8 on Bao-Dur, instead of the promised +3x8 leading to a maximum of 82 influence. Hence I can get all the stories out of Bao-Dur about the war and stuff, but I cannot seem to get to the training part... Also manually messing with a save game to give him the 98 influence does not grant me the option of training him... Any clues?

Thanks!

[ANGLVD3TH]

I'm a little confused in the third tab also. Does it mean that a character responds in a certain way every time you respond to a situation in a certain way? So, the first line means that Hanharr increases influence when you are cunning. If that's the case, does that mean that you ALWAYS gain influense whenever you have Visas for one of these events?

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by ANGLVD3TH

I'm a little confused in the third tab also. Does it mean that a character responds in a certain way every time you respond to a situation in a certain way? So, the first line means that Hanharr increases influence when you are cunning. If that's the case, does that mean that you ALWAYS gain influense whenever you have Visas for one of these events?

If you do something cunning and Hanharr is in your party he will react positively. If you do something thuggish and Kreia is in your party she will react negatively. And so on.

[ANGLVD3TH]

Ok, was just making sure because it lists Visas as gaining influence on good, cunning, and psychotic and I wanted to make sure it wasn't a typo or something.

[Achilles]

You can partially test this yourself on the Ravager. You can get an influence gain with Visas regardless of whether Col. Tobin is spared or killed.

[NihonTrusty]

I'm following the DS walkthrough and I'm at Nar Shaddaa. I just did the Broken Airspeeder quest according to the following:

"Bao-Dur - Influence Decrease - In the Serroco part of the Refugee Quad, you will find the now infamous Broken Airspeeder. While repairing it, you will have This will provide you with the last influence decrease necessary to train Bao-Dur to become a Jedi (Bao-Dur: 10)."

However, I just talked to Bao-Dur and while he asked me about the war a few times, it stopped short of turning him to a Jedi. Have I missed something? Is the X-box version broken as far as this? Or should there be something after the "you will have" and before "This will provide" that would show what I should have done?
(Yes, I am trying to do the Airspeeder quest without the patch, I figured a few LS points from Lasavvou would be a small price to pay to turn Bao-Dur into a Jedi)

[The Lord of Chaos]

Use the KSE save game editor. That way, you can use your favourite party members all the time.