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View Poll Results: Is Malak cool?
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Yes, of course
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No way
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He can go die
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09-07-2008, 06:24 PM
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Are you kidding? If Revan is really as smart as you make him out to be, he would have known that Malak would turn the world into a pile of ash. I think Revan wanted Malak to do that, too, as a fear weapon - where Revan struck, it was a surgical attack with minimal damage. Where he sent Malak, it was desolation. 'Surrender to me, and I'll keep Malak away from you. Keep resisting, and not only will you be destroyed, but I'll use him to do it.' You people keep forgetting that Revan was a Sith Lord.
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09-07-2008, 07:16 PM
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I sneer at thee.
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I concur. Revan had thousands of his own soldiers killed even as far back as the Mandalorian Wars, so why would he be opposed to enemy planets getting slagged?
"There is something going on in time and space, and beyond time and space, which, whether we like it or not, spells duty." -Winston Churchill
"For of all sad words of tongue or pen, The saddest are these: 'It might have been!'" -John Whittier
"Apathy is death." -Kreia
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09-07-2008, 11:37 PM
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I am factoring in Revan being a Sith Lord, actually. When I try to picture how Revan operated as a Sith Lord, I tend to get most of my cues from Traya. That hag is a full-blown Darth, corroded to the bone, and has carbonite for blood. She casually mind-rapes three members of Exile's crew! She applauds when you kill an ill beggar in the Nar Shadaa slums. She sets Telos up to become Nihilus's lunch.
However, if your Exile acts like a hoodlum and engages in wanton slaughter, she will chew him up one side and down the other. Sion, another of the "brute strength" school, she berates as "limited" and sets him up to be broken on the Exile's will.
Now, Revan spent years under Traya's tutlage. There were masters after Traya, but Traya was the first, and the one Revan returned to when there was a crisis. That indicates Revan respected Traya's outlook and style. Yes, Traya has some serious hero-worship for her former pupil, but she tends to become overly fond of them anyway - see Exile.
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09-08-2008, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Allronix
When I try to picture how Revan operated as a Sith Lord, I tend to get most of my cues from Traya. That hag is a full-blown Darth, corroded to the bone, and has carbonite for blood.
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In her methods, certainly, though not at all in her philosophy. Conscious rejection of power (or at least wanting to consciously reject power, she is a hypocrite) is about un-Sith as anything can be.
Love the metaphor, though. 
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09-08-2008, 12:27 AM
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Just another 'evil' video game character. :|
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09-08-2008, 01:13 AM
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Traya is a manipulator. Revan had elements of that, but he was more of a grand strategist, and application of massive force can be a very effective strategy. Fear is a powerful weapon. And while, yes, the destruction of Telos rallied the Republic against Revan, the Republic rallying against him didn't matter. The Jedi were the only ones who ever accomplished anything against Revan of note. The destruction of Telos unified the Republic for a time, yes, but imagine the reaction when they realized that, even with the full might of the Republic being thrown against him, Revan was still winning decisively. Do the worlds want to be on the morally upright side...or the side that wins?
Most worlds would choose, eventually, the side that wins. And there really isn't any doubt that the Sith would have won that war, had Revan not gotten mindwiped and reprogrammed.
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09-08-2008, 10:05 AM
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I am going to say that because this topic has turned into more of a discussion on Revan than Malak that Malak sucks. Otherwise, we'd still be talking about him. Not Revan.
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09-08-2008, 10:15 AM
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You have to take clues from Kreia. Did he really fall, or did he do what he knew he must in order to save the republic? I think that the republic needed a good kick in the pants, and thats what Revan gave it. Just because He was turned on, doesn't mean much. For one, he was about to take care of the strike team before he was bombed by the guy who was supposed to be watching his back. I think that Revan was going to make the Republic prove its worth, then back off...before his student turned a few laser canons on him.
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Malak is a cowerdly fruitcake, who knew he couldn't take care of revan up close and personal. So he used the fact that Revan was distracted to try and seize the throne for himself. And he can't even defeat Revan when he doesn't have his memory! Truly sad.
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