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Old 01-30-2009, 03:53 PM   #121
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I however don’t only include waterboarding as torture. I’ve also seen sources, that I find creditable, put that put the number higher than the source you find creditable. So let’s just say I am in disagreement with the putting the number at 3. I’m however not in position to know the exact number.

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Old 01-30-2009, 03:58 PM   #122
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I however donít only include waterboarding as torture. Iíve also seen source, that I find creditable, put that put the number higher than the source you find creditable. So letís just say I am in disagreement with the putting the number at 3. Iím however not in position to know the exact number.
None of us are, to be honest. But I'd willing to bet good money that, over the years that Gitmo's been open, there have been significantly more than 3, as Garfy is suggesting.
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Old 01-30-2009, 04:29 PM   #123
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No, because 3 is the number of people that were waterboarded, if you define waterboarding as torture only 3 people were tortured.
Yup, only three people were tortured (*snort*), so that makes it okay. Totally makes sense.



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Old 01-30-2009, 05:32 PM   #124
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No, because 3 is the number of people that were waterboarded, if you define waterboarding as torture only 3 people were tortured.
1. I define torture as more things than that.
2. You have no idea how many it was, stop claiming to have a number.
3. I only have two points.

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Old 01-30-2009, 05:59 PM   #125
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[sarcasm]Yeah, I'm sorry that their meal may have been 10 minutes late one day.[/sarcasm]

Seriously, you have no evidence the other way, and our soldiers are innocent until proven guilty.
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Old 01-30-2009, 06:02 PM   #126
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Seriously, you have no evidence the other way, and our soldiers are innocent until proven guilty.
So you have 100%, undeniable proof that there is no torture being practiced other than the alleged three waterboardings? Additionally, you haven't answered any of the above points, FYI.
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Old 01-30-2009, 06:06 PM   #127
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Seriously, you have no evidence the other way, and our soldiers are innocent until proven guilty.
Pot, kettle, black. I love how always you apply one standard on everyone else and one for yourself. I love however Obama is guilty until proven even more guilty. On topic; there is no point attempting to discuss how torture is going on due to the fact you conveniently ignore any source regardless of origin that contradicts your viewpoint.



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So you have 100%, undeniable proof that there is no torture being practiced other than the alleged three waterboardings? Additionally, you haven't answered any of the above points, FYI.
Actually do you have 100% undeniable proof? No you do not, innocent until proven guilty.
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Old 01-30-2009, 06:09 PM   #129
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Actually do you have 100% undeniable proof? No you do not, innocent until proven guilty.
Ever heard of the term "hypocrite"?
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Old 01-30-2009, 06:51 PM   #130
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Ever heard of the term "hypocrite"?
Darn straight (because Garfield seems to have a problem with words like 'damn' and keeps reporting my posts).

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Actually do you have 100% undeniable proof? No you do not, innocent until proven guilty.
Technically speaking it's impossible to have 100% undeniable proof.

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and our soldiers are innocent until proven guilty.
Unlike the people inside Guantanamo?

And then there's habeas corpus, or treating others with the respect due to all human life.

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Old 01-30-2009, 09:02 PM   #133
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Technically speaking it's impossible to have 100% undeniable proof.
typical liberal nonsense


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