How to close Guantanamo?

[mimartin]

I however don’t only include waterboarding as torture. I’ve also seen sources, that I find creditable, put that put the number higher than the source you find creditable. So let’s just say I am in disagreement with the putting the number at 3. I’m however not in position to know the exact number.

[The Doctor]

Originally Posted by mimartin

I however don’t only include waterboarding as torture. I’ve also seen source, that I find creditable, put that put the number higher than the source you find creditable. So let’s just say I am in disagreement with the putting the number at 3. I’m however not in position to know the exact number.

None of us are, to be honest. But I'd willing to bet good money that, over the years that Gitmo's been open, there have been significantly more than 3, as Garfy is suggesting.

[Adavardes]

Originally Posted by GarfieldJL

No, because 3 is the number of people that were waterboarded, if you define waterboarding as torture only 3 people were tortured.

Yup, only three people were tortured (*snort*), so that makes it okay. Totally makes sense.

[EnderWiggin]

Originally Posted by GarfieldJL

No, because 3 is the number of people that were waterboarded, if you define waterboarding as torture only 3 people were tortured.

1. I define torture as more things than that.
2. You have no idea how many it was, stop claiming to have a number.
3. I only have two points.

_EW_

[GarfieldJL]

[sarcasm]Yeah, I'm sorry that their meal may have been 10 minutes late one day.[/sarcasm]

Seriously, you have no evidence the other way, and our soldiers are innocent until proven guilty.

[PastramiX]

Originally Posted by GarfieldJL

Seriously, you have no evidence the other way, and our soldiers are innocent until proven guilty.

So you have 100%, undeniable proof that there is no torture being practiced other than the alleged three waterboardings? Additionally, you haven't answered any of the above points, FYI.

[jonathan7]

Originally Posted by GarfieldJL

Seriously, you have no evidence the other way, and our soldiers are innocent until proven guilty.

Pot, kettle, black. I love how always you apply one standard on everyone else and one for yourself. I love however Obama is guilty until proven even more guilty. On topic; there is no point attempting to discuss how torture is going on due to the fact you conveniently ignore any source regardless of origin that contradicts your viewpoint.

[GarfieldJL]

Originally Posted by PastramiX

So you have 100%, undeniable proof that there is no torture being practiced other than the alleged three waterboardings? Additionally, you haven't answered any of the above points, FYI.

Actually do you have 100% undeniable proof? No you do not, innocent until proven guilty.

[PastramiX]

Originally Posted by GarfieldJL

Actually do you have 100% undeniable proof? No you do not, innocent until proven guilty.

Ever heard of the term "hypocrite"?

[EnderWiggin]

Originally Posted by PastramiX

Ever heard of the term "hypocrite"?

Darn straight (because Garfield seems to have a problem with words like 'damn' and keeps reporting my posts).

_EW_

[jonathan7]

Originally Posted by GarfieldJL

Actually do you have 100% undeniable proof? No you do not, innocent until proven guilty.

Technically speaking it's impossible to have 100% undeniable proof.

Originally Posted by Bertrand Russell

“Not to be absolutely certain is, I think, one of the essential things in rationality"

[Darth InSidious]

Originally Posted by Garfield

and our soldiers are innocent until proven guilty.

Unlike the people inside Guantanamo?

And then there's habeas corpus, or treating others with the respect due to all human life.

And you wonder why America is treated as backward by the rest of the world?

[Det. Bart Lasiter]

Originally Posted by jonathan7

Technically speaking it's impossible to have 100% undeniable proof.

typical liberal nonsense


It's clearly a budget. It's got a lot of numbers in it.

~gdub