Revan vs Obi-Wan Kenobi - Page 2

Kjølen · 02-18-2009, 12:43 PM

"Who will live longer" is basically the same as saying "Who will die first" which is the same as "who would win."

Unless you mean in survival years. Obi-wan died when he was about 52ish. Revan was, I can't say for sure, 30ish? If whatever happened to him in the Unknown Regions doesn't kill him, he might live longer than Obi.

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Originally Posted by Darth Moeller

They would fight for all eternity until one of them died of extreme old age.

Well, I've got my vote on Obi-wan, since he Was born about 3,500 years after Revan likely died.

Lord of Destruction · 02-18-2009, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Kjølen

Uh, huh. From what is this derived? And what would this imply if he was? Or was that simply an idle comment?

i actuley have the book that say that, but not in those words as soon as i find i'll tell you the exact words, but i do remeber is that Darth Traya was a servant to Darth Revan, and Darth Traya recutied Nihlus, and sion

mattig89ch · 02-19-2009, 10:25 AM

To be honest, I think it would be amazing if Revan would show up during episode 3, and pwn the emporer.

I hate the idea that the sith are slinking around in the shadows like a cowards. I would make the galaxy fear me!

Behold, I am the dark lord (insert desired name here)! Bow before my awesome might, or face the toucher of a thousand deaths!

Kjølen · 02-19-2009, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mattig89ch

To be honest, I think it would be amazing if Revan would show up during episode 3, and pwn the emporer.

I hate the idea that the sith are slinking around in the shadows like a cowards. I would make the galaxy fear me!

Behold, I am the dark lord (insert desired name here)! Bow before my awesome might, or face the toucher of a thousand deaths!

Subtly and cunning is the way of the Sith. Honor is a chain that binds you. Remember: Through victory my chains are broken.

Lord of Destruction · 02-19-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mattig89ch

To be honest, I think it would be amazing if Revan would show up during episode 3, and pwn the emporer.

I hate the idea that the sith are slinking around in the shadows like a cowards. I would make the galaxy fear me!

Behold, I am the dark lord (insert desired name here)! Bow before my awesome might, or face the toucher of a thousand deaths!

your right the sith in 1-6 are wusses for doing it in the shadows

Kjølen · 02-19-2009, 02:21 PM

Darth Bane would be disgusted with you people.

**Astor** · 02-19-2009, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kjølen

Darth Bane would be disgusted with you people.

Agreed.

The Sith went into hiding by necessity - they'd been all but wiped out by Lord Hoth's Army of Light - they wouldn't have stood a chance in open conflict with the Jedi Order.

So, they waited and watched, pulling the strings until finally, one of them would achieve the power they had long sought. They got much further through deception and 'sneaking' than they ever did through open conflict.

Kjølen · 02-19-2009, 02:27 PM

All those illusions, honor, glamor, nobility, flashiness, are weaknesses that plagued the Sith until Darth Bath's reform through blood. What's the use of these things if you're dead?

Lord of Destruction · 02-19-2009, 02:53 PM

ok u got a point

CommanderQ · 02-19-2009, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Astor Kaine

Agreed.

The Sith went into hiding by necessity - they'd been all but wiped out by Lord Hoth's Army of Light - they wouldn't have stood a chance in open conflict with the Jedi Order.

I thought the Sith nearly wiped themselves out in the Lord Hoth situation, with only Darth Bane and his apprentice the only survivors {something fishy in that situation

} Of course, that incident did provoke the "only two" Sith law.

mattig89ch · 02-19-2009, 03:27 PM

I'm not saying the emporer wasn't smart about how he got into power, but it irks me to think of a sith as someone who hides in the shadows.

Besides, I think the sith are the 'common enemy' of the republic. They are the guys that everyone fights against, so they don't fight each other. This keeps the republic alive, otherwise there would be civil war.

Det. Bart Lasiter · 02-19-2009, 09:04 PM

voted for all 3 options

Kuuki · 02-21-2009, 03:44 AM

i actually voted in this thread

Obi wins.

CommanderQ · 02-21-2009, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Scar Da Kookee

i actually voted in this thread

Obi wins.

HEY! That's my picture!! Grr!!

Either way...OBI ROCKS!!

Druganator · 02-22-2009, 01:54 PM

Obi wan was one of the greatest duelists OF HIS TIME. no offense to Obi-wan but Malak could probably beat him. its the simple fact that there is so much lost after thousands of years. just like if a swordsman from today fought a roman legionnaire i think todays would lose. obi wan could use about 3 force powers. jump, push, and probably somethin else. there arent many powers known to any force users in his day. light side guys have push and jump dark side guys have push jump and lightning. and if u watched the yoda and palpatine fight..... dark side push is far superior. sooo im fairly sure that revan would simply pick obi wan up and crush him with the force to save himself the effort of turning on his lightsaber and completely destroying obi wan. i think obi wan could pwn most people in his day aside from dooku and palpatine since he lost to dooku twice and yoda couldnt even beat palpatine.

Kuuki · 02-22-2009, 04:36 PM

or how about:

Raven vs AT4 Squirrel!!

Mav · 02-22-2009, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Scar Da Kookee

Raven

XD!

Lord of Destruction · 02-22-2009, 05:46 PM

ok all the force powers i've seen Kenobi use is jump, sence, heal, push, and pull

alphadrago5 · 07-11-2010, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawkstrong16

Either 2 or 3. Because Obi-Wan is a master swordsmen but then Revan is also a good swordsmen.

However Obi-Wan is older and has more experience. So in the end he would beat Revan.

Besides all the facts that prove Obi-Wan is a better swordsmen.....He is just a whole hell of a lot cooler!

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ALL of that makes no sense at all. Revan mastered both lightside and darkside of the force since he was a sith lord and brought the republic to the brink of destruction only to save it later. Also how could obi-wan possibly be older than revan!!!!!???????? Revan was alive thousands of years before obi-wan and may have still been alive at the time (he was in the force unleashed) so he had way more experience and he also defeated the mandalorians which if you put in the same room with obi-wan, i doubt he would live more than 5 minutes considering in one of the episodes of the show, he would have died without help. Also where did you get that obi-wan is the greatest swordsman ever thats just your opinion. That and Revan was the greatest duelist on Taris even before he had his force powers returned to him so that would make him a lot better than obi-wan. Also if you read the books, Darth bane used a thought bomb force ritual that revan created to destroy the brotherhood of shadow and some jedi in order to cleanse it and remake it following the rule of two. And have you seen the way revan dresses at all!!!!!!! He is way cooler than obi-wan

Seikan · 07-11-2010, 08:57 AM

Well, Mace windu is better than obi wan with a lightsaber... more experience... hmmm the experience don't come from the age, but from the "experiences", and Revan was a jedi during a time of war, he became general, beat the mandalorians, killing some of the greatest duelist of the time (Mandalore the Ultimate, Yusanis, Malak later), after this he was on the jedi civil war, which means many battles between force users, so a good training into lightsaber duels.

He mastered the light and dark side of the force, learned ancient sith powers, like kreia said "it was like stare at the heart of the force", so i'm not claiming Revan would win, but he have all his chances, but well it's impossible to say clearly who would win, for example obi wan has beaten Darth Maul, but Dath Maul was better during the fight, etc... so the battles never end exactly the same, so Revan could win once, and obi wan the other fight, etc... but if we have to choose one who would have more chances to win I would say revan. For me it would be like comparing one of the greatest samurais, against a kendoka of our time, who might be very good, but can't really be compared against a true samurai, at times of war etc...

Det. Bart Lasiter · 07-11-2010, 01:52 PM

old (stupid) thread duders

Kuuki · 07-11-2010, 03:17 PM

zombie thread apocalypse! Ruuuuuuuuunnnn!!!!

mstr kenobi · 07-11-2010, 05:22 PM

the kotor series paint Revan as someone powerfull enough to change the destiny of the galaxy, only Palps and the Skywalkers qualify, then again, Obi beat the chosen one...

Obi is cooler though!!!!!

Darth Avlectus · 07-13-2010, 01:23 AM

Anakin/Vader was also conflicted and not 100% resolute. Kenobi was a master of a lightsaber form in a time where saber duels were rare. He almost got cleaved in two by a decidedly anachorist swordsman the first time, he got caught off guard and pwned by powers the second time. Though far from a slouch, Dooku was by no means the best jedi or sith.

Revan is overhyped, but his swordsmanship mastery was in a time where saber duels was a common thing. His powers were more diverse (which means improvisation), even if he wasn't the most powerful ever. Would not have the same issues Anakin did.

Alexrd · 07-13-2010, 04:39 AM

Obi-Wan. Because he was not a Mary Sue like Revan.

Ping · 07-13-2010, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Alexrd

Obi-Wan. Because he was not a Mary Sue like Revan.

^This.

Darth_Calo · 07-29-2010, 11:34 PM

Personally I think Revan would have the edge, because he was tatically brilliant, and wouldn't make the mistake of attacking from the low ground (or at least would do it more gracefully...) and could actually get the high ground. Anakin was too full of blind rage to not jump at him

Sabretooth · 07-30-2010, 01:36 AM

If Revan was tactically brilliant, he'd nuke the entire vicinity of a guy like Obi-Wan.

True_Avery · 07-30-2010, 07:06 AM

Revan would get ready to fight Obi-wan, but then remember about the true threat and disappear to never be seen or heard from again.

And... Scene.

Ping · 07-30-2010, 12:09 PM

I'm going to have to go with Obi-Wan, not only because he's not a Mary Sue like Revan, but I seem to remember seeing somewhere that while Mace's 4-man team went after Palpatine, Kit Fisto remarked he'd feel more comfortable if Obi-Wan was with them. Given, he was probably underestimating Palpy, but it still shows how respected and powerful Obi was.