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Old 04-20-2009, 10:35 AM   #1
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Bethesda, developers of The Elder Scrolls series and Fallout 3, have announced a new game for the Fallout franchise to be developed by Obsidian Entertainment, developers of KotOR II and NWN2. Entitled Fallout: New Vegas, the game is said "not [to be] a sequel to Fallout 3" but a stand-alone title slated for release in 2010.

"It's not a sequel to Fallout 3," says Pete Hines, Vice President of PR and marketing at Bethesda, "it's just another game in the universe, and it has no impact whatsoever on whatever Todd Howard and his team are working on. We approached Obsidian and they were, like, yeah. That was a pretty easy conversation. It's not Fallout Tactics, it's not Brotherhood of Steel; it's another RPG."

MCV is reporting that the game will utilise the Gamebryo engine employed in both Oblivion and Fallout 3 and that Chris Avellone of Fallout 2 (and Planescape: Torment) fame is heading up the development team.

Given that the founding fathers of Obsidian Entertainment (Feargus Urquhart, Chris Parker, Darren Monahan, Chris Avellone, and Chris Jones) are all veterans of Fallout 2's long-dead developer, Black Isle, this looks like something to keep and eye on, rather than something to commit ritual suicide over.


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I still need to play Fallout 3, but this sounds like it will be amazing. Chock it up on my looking forward to list.

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Old 04-20-2009, 11:10 AM   #4
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Now this is something I didn't expect I'd ever see. After Fallout 3's excuse of a storyline, this is almost as good as an Obsidian Entertainment developed KOTOR3. :P

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Old 04-20-2009, 12:18 PM   #6
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Hrmm....Bethesda pays millions to rape the franchise and then hands it off to Obsidian? Smells a bit fishy to me, but it is three weeks past April Fools....

Gamebryo - blech. Obsidian should have said they'd use the Alpha Protocol version of Unreal 3 that they have been working with for the last 2 years.
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Old 04-20-2009, 12:29 PM   #8
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Gamebryo - blech. Obsidian should have said they'd use the Alpha Protocol version of Unreal 3 that they have been working with for the last 2 years.
I may have preferred this as well, I didn't particularly care for Oblivion, but I still want to play Fallout 3 since it's been so highly lauded.


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I should have liked Obsidian to use their Onyx engine; it was designed with the Aliens RPG in mind, sounded pretty interesting.

Anyway, I do have to echo the feeling that seems to be reverberating around the internet right now that an Obsidian-Bethesda partnership is one of the most bizarre video-game-related events for quite a while...


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Release in 2010? That's awfully soon, isn't it?

That being said, it goes without saying that I'd prefer Obsidian's take on Fallout to Bethesda's.


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Anyway, I do have to echo the feeling that seems to be reverberating around the internet right now that an Obsidian-Bethesda partnership is one of the most bizarre video-game-related events for quite a while...
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I didn't particularly care for Oblivion, but I still want to play Fallout 3 since it's been so highly lauded.
If you've played Oblivion you've played Fallout 3. As was feared by the fanboys, it's pretty much just Oblivion with guns. As far as "highly lauded" goes, recall that Oblivion was also "highly lauded" (Oblivion actually has a slightly higher Metacritic rating).
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As far as "highly lauded" goes, recall that Oblivion was also "highly lauded" (Oblivion actually has a slightly higher Metacritic rating).
True these games lack good strong stories.

Though, just like Morrorwind, I enjoyed the exploring, the randome encounters with quest givers.

Bit odd sometimes, to find someone in the middle of nowhere
Still, this sandbox mode is strong: I think with the writing and creative story telling of Obsidian, fused with the great exploring aspect, this might turn out great.

2010 isn't so far fetched, if they use the same engine and tools of Fallout 3.


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Old 04-20-2009, 02:08 PM   #14
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2010 isn't so far fetched, if they use the same engine and tools of Fallout 3.
Which is the same situation that they had with KotOR2.

Uh-oh...


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Shacknews has posted an interview with Bethesda's vice president of PR and marketing, Pete Hines on the new Fallout game to be developed by Obsidian Entertainment: Fallout: New Vegas.

Mr. Hines has stated that Obsidian and Bethesda have been discussing the stand-alone addition to the Fallout franchise "for a while now" but has not disclosed for exactly how long "for a while" means.

I think we tried very hard not to put much in the way of parameters on them. To let them kind of come up with the idea. So we didn't go to them and say, we want a game that is set here, and--we didn't do that. We said, "What would you do with it? If we were going to do this, what would you guys like to do?"

If what he says is true then this game could turn out to be very interesting. Almost as interesting as Mike Leigh night on BBC 4, yesterday.


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Which is the same situation that they had with KotOR2.

Uh-oh...
Lol. Let's just hope they have finally learned a few lessons about achievable goals.
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Dear God. Well, this is one hell of a surprise. It's as if the sadistic spawn of Satan asked God to give help him conquer the world.

Either way, since it's being done by Obsidian, I'm thinking that the Fallout franchise might return to a sense of glory that was lost with FO3.

Still, I'm shocked. I mean, really, in a state of joyful disbelief.
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If you've played Oblivion you've played Fallout 3. As was feared by the fanboys, it's pretty much just Oblivion with guns. As far as "highly lauded" goes, recall that Oblivion was also "highly lauded" (Oblivion actually has a slightly higher Metacritic rating).
I know, I've heard the Oblivion with guns bit many times but I think the first person view works better in a game with guns, and I was comparing Oblivion to other fantasy RPGs so I wanted something similar and I didn't like the way it went. Never played any of the Fallout games or any RPGs like them so I am open to giving it a chance.


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Hmmm, another Fallout? This was expected, Fallout 3 was hugely succesful in comparison to Oblivion and other franchises....this next one could wear out the Fallout series though, as good as it may be.


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I'm one of the few apparently who has a distaste for Obsidian's games. TSL was incomplete and felt incomplete, and NWN2 was one of the least immersive RPGs I've ever played.

While Fallout 3 was just Oblivion with guns...

I'm going to take a guess and say this will be NWN2 with... guns.

No thanks.
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I'm one of the few apparently who has a distaste for Obsidian's games. While Fallout 3 was just Oblivion with guns...

I'm going to take a guess and say this will be NWN2 with... guns.

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I don't quite care for Obsidian anymore than I do to the next company either. Bland games are bland to me. Still, might be better than Bethesda, so I'll be waiting.


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I'm going to take a guess and say this will be NWN2 with... guns.
Given that these guys developed Fallout 2, I doubt it.

Well, I guess that this is why the Aliens RPG was so suddenly shelved. I'll bet that Feargus & Co. would've dropped anything that they were doing ATM for the chance to work on this. Who could blame them?

OMG! OMG!

This just occurred to me: could this mean that we're finally going to get the Fallout 3 that Black Isle was developing oh so long ago?


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Sounds promising! But why does Obsidian always doing sequels for other companies' games (minus Alpha Protocol)? First, Bioware, now Bethesda...


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Sounds promising! But why does Obsidian always doing sequels for other companies' games (minus Alpha Protocol)? First, Bioware, now Bethesda...
Nothing terribly wrong with that. It's just that doing sequels to already famous games practically guarantees a good income. If the company grows, new IPs are bound to show up sooner or later.


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Yeah, it was definitely a good way for Obsidian to get their brand well known. Doing TSL and NWN2 really put them on the map (Yes I know they are all former Black Isle people but I just mean them as a company) and that is proven since they already have a new IP in Alpha Protocol coming and pretty highly anticipated.


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I'm one of the few apparently who has a distaste for Obsidian's games. TSL was incomplete and felt incomplete, and NWN2 was one of the least immersive RPGs I've ever played.

While Fallout 3 was just Oblivion with guns...

I'm going to take a guess and say this will be NWN2 with... guns.

No thanks.
Trust me, you're not the only one. I haven't liked one single Obsidian game. I loved NWN, couldn't get into NWN2. I loved KotOR, didn't like TSL. I hated both Oblivion and Fallout 3. Suffice to say, I won't ever be buying into "omg this game is awesome" ever again when it comes to Obsidian.


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I only know Fallout 3 from seeing my brother playing it but from what i've seen, it's pretty fun. Unexpected move, having Obsidian develop the new game but good nevertheless. :P
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Neato. I've got another reason to play the original Fallouts.
The fact that you haven't played them yet is one of the reasons why you fail as a person, Ed.


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I loved KotOR, didn't like TSL.
Preposterous.

TSL had Kreia, therefore, it is better in every right when it comes to K1.

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Suffice to say, I won't ever be buying into "omg this game is awesome" ever again when it comes to Obsidian.
Too late, I already am:

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sounds nice, but i'm not holding my breath on this one till i see some actual information about the game. announcing that they're making the game is one thing. giving us information like plot teasers, screenshots, and/or gameplay footage is a completely different ballgame.


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Whatever it turns out like, at least they didn't call it Fallout 4. That is what Bethesda should have done - called theirs Fallout: DC or Fallout: Capital Wastelands or some such, along the lines of Tactics and Brotherhood of Steel. The only relation it has to Fallout 1 & 2 is the universe. In narrative, gameplay, and philosophy it is completely unrelated. Van Buren was Fallout 3. Bethesda's Fallout 3 bears as much relation to the originals as Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance does to BG 1 & 2.
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That's what it was called: Van Buren. I'd forgotten.

Since the same guys who worked on Van Buren are making this game, I'm wondering if Fallout: New Vegas will actually be Van Buren, and therefore the real Fallout 3.


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In its defense, didn't you stop playing around the tutorial?
In my first install, yeah.

I installed it again and played about 8 or so hours in and it just didn't latch onto me. Perhaps the game, or was playing it in a bad mindset.
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Preposterous.

TSL had Kreia, therefore, it is better in every right when it comes to K1.

This.

There's also the fact that K1's story and characters sucked out loud, and that TSL's story and characters were of a quality, depth, and dimension rarely seen in the gaming industry, but mostly this.

Obsidian = amazing writers.
Fallout = interesting concept.
Obsidian making Fallout = WOOO!



It is all that is left unsaid upon which tragedies are built.

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