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Old 03-09-2009, 06:57 PM   #1
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German WW2 Game

Hell why not?
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Old 03-09-2009, 11:13 PM   #2
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lol...they have 'em.

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Old 03-10-2009, 06:18 PM   #3
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I think he means why not WW2 games from Germany.
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Old 03-10-2009, 07:41 PM   #4
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no i mean ww2 games from the Wehrmacht(German Army) perspective
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Old 03-10-2009, 07:58 PM   #5
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Oh, there are a few, such as the RTS Company of Heroes: Opposing Fronts, there is a German Campaign, but for FPS, I'm sure there is one. There's definately several multiplayer games where you can be the Wehrmacht, or anyother sect of the German army, like Red Orchestra, Day of Defeat, and a few others that escape my mind. There is also the German campaign on nearly all the Battlefield: 1942 games. That's all I can think of that are close to what your saying..


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Old 03-11-2009, 02:01 PM   #6
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There's also two strategy games, Achtung Spitfire! and Over the Reich, which allow you to play as either an allied nation or as the Germans, although those two games deal exclusively with the air war.

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Doesn't at least one of the Call of Duty games let you play as the German for a large portion of the game? Or was that the Russians (Even more under-represented!)?


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Old 03-11-2009, 06:22 PM   #8
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hell no cod is to one sided to depict the Wehrmacht in a realistic way. Most of any WW2 fps developers knowledge doesn't go past American propaganda.
Its just Nazi this and Nazi that. Too bad really. It would have been more interesting and a breath of fresh air to say the least
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Old 03-11-2009, 06:23 PM   #9
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Thx for the titles haggis and commanderQ i be sure to check them out
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Old 03-11-2009, 07:05 PM   #10
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Well @Nickelstein Hitler was a bad man. And it was terrible this time, so I think nobody want to play a rogue.

Just a thought.
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Old 03-12-2009, 04:53 PM   #11
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I just wish they looked past that. To see that every soldier is the same.
Tell me Sven, in Germany do they say anything about Wehrmacht? At all
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Old 03-12-2009, 04:58 PM   #12
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Well, now the army is no longer the Wehrmacht, it's Der Bundeswehr, people's army, or something like that, it's been that way since the fall of the Soviet Union and the end of the occupation. I'm sure that there are many people, myself included, who view the German army as people, and not mindless Nazi drones, though, I'm not justifying what happened, becuase there were still many who did follow Hitler willingly, sadly


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Old 03-12-2009, 05:05 PM   #13
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Actually, our queen's late husband, Prince Claus, was in the Wehrmacht, and he became one of the most popular members of the royal family. Personally speaking, I am sure many of the soldiers were just that - soldiers, not nazis.

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Old 03-12-2009, 05:10 PM   #14
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Yep, agreed, a huge number of the Third Reich's forces were just that, soldiers, many fought for the Fatherland, for eachother, for the people, but not for Hitler. Hitler was just the guy who ahd the reigns of power, and that is why we run into such generalizations...


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Old 03-12-2009, 06:19 PM   #15
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I wish I could join the Bundeswehr Fallschirmjager. I could sing "Rot scheint die Sonne" aka Fallschirmjager lied all day!
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Old 03-12-2009, 06:27 PM   #16
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Most video games only focus on D-Day and few focus on anything else but that.
If I ever make a video game it would be on the 1st Fallschirmjager Division aka "The Green Devils" and their combat jumps. Unfortunately NO video game companies have the guts to do this.
Germans=Nazis that eat sasuage and say Sieg Heil at the end of every sentence;This is the generalization of Germany today and in WW2
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Old 03-12-2009, 06:44 PM   #17
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Well, not entirely, as I said, Company of Heroes: Opposing Fronts, breaks down that generalization, the German army is not portrayed as bad guys in that game..it almost makes you want them to win, but I'm still glad they didn't, things had to go the way they went, otherwise, the world would've been a much darker place.


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Old 03-12-2009, 07:17 PM   #18
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Its good that they didn't win but i wish ppl would stop generalizing the Bundeswehr by comparing them to Nazis. Thats just so ignorant...But I want a German WW2 FPS dammit!
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What´s ppl?
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Old 03-13-2009, 03:59 PM   #20
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Old 04-25-2009, 07:57 PM   #21
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There's a scene in Schindler's List where Ralph Fiennes snipes at "lazy" Jewish workers. Why not a game based on that?
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You might find this interesting, Nickelstein. Of course Kotaku got the Nazis and the Germans mixed up; not all Germans were Nazis, and not all Nazis were Germans. :P

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Old 05-05-2009, 04:31 PM   #24
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You might find this interesting, Nickelstein. Of course Kotaku got the Nazis and the Germans mixed up; not all Germans were Nazis, and not all Nazis were Germans. :P
One thing I have to say:
DEUTSCHLAND UBER ALLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 05-05-2009, 06:12 PM   #25
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There's a scene in Schindler's List where Ralph Fiennes snipes at "lazy" Jewish workers. Why not a game based on that?
I saw that movie, too.

Now it was their job. But when I see what the SS and so did ...
Have or had these men no conscience?
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Have or had these men no conscience?
Yes, but a conscience can also be used to justify immoral acts.

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Old 05-06-2009, 12:45 PM   #27
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Sounds sick!
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It is, but then, some people are sick in the head, unfortunately...

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Old 05-12-2009, 06:08 PM   #29
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There's a scene in Schindler's List where Ralph Fiennes snipes at "lazy" Jewish workers. Why not a game based on that?
It is already so long with the Jews and Christians. I want to say something against anybody, but religion is one of the worst "inventions" of man. You see so what is happening.

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I play SW Republic Commando and Turok Seeds of Evil. For me as a player of adventures FPS are actually meaningless.
I would also like to play comfortably. And I donīt like death / time press scenes in adventures. Full Throttle is an exception. Itīs an action-adventure but in a completely different way. FT is amazing! Not the best adventure, but brilliant.
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It is already so long with the Jews and Christians. I want to say something against anybody, but religion is one of the worst "inventions" of man. You see so what is happening.
At the risk of going horribly off-topic and derailing this into an endless debate... what has religion got to do with it? The Jews in the Second World War weren't prosecuted as a religious group, but as an ethnic group. Furthermore, people of several Christian denominations were sent to concentration and destruction camps, and I wouldn't exactly call the Nazis "Christians".

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Mh, difficult to say. I mean if there were no religions he excepted all people Christs and Jews. Hope you understand now.

But it´s going to be a too religous thread...
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You know, I began to think about it....and Hitler's persecution of Jews, Christians, and other ethnic groups, was not out of hatred of them, but it was in an effort to combine the German people{and create something very very bad}

After WW1, Germany was going through the worst economic time in their history, and then Hitler came along, and pointed the finger of blame at the Jews, and the other 'inferiors,' as he called them, and they were charged with the failure of WW1. By doing this, he combined the German people in hatred against the alleged 'traitors' and 'inferiors.' So, we can't say he had something specifically against the Jews, as he saw them not as an ethnic or religious enemy, but as a stepping stone to power. Of course, his Aryan beliefs may have had a hand in it...

Just an opinion I'm exploring...


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Old 05-14-2009, 12:41 PM   #33
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I think you have a point, CommanderQ. Hitler was probably very much an opportunist. At the time, it was already sort of fashionable to hate Jews, and he capitalized on that.

As for religion in general, if it didn't exist, people would find some other reason to hate each other for. It's human nature, in a sense.

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Maybe. But people who think they are good people cuz they´re very religious are not that good people. Nothing against anybody.

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Hitler was a traitor. Not the Jews!
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Hitler was a traitor. Not the Jews!
OH NO! I didn't mean it like that!

If you look again, you will see that I used the word 'alleged,' in other words accused. Hitler merely pointed a finger at an innocent party, as I said, for his own gain.

Indeed, Hitler was the deciever and the traitor, not the Jews. I didn't mean for it to sound like I was saying the Jews were the traitors, as I said, 'alleged', accused, doesn't mean they were actually traitors.


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Old 05-15-2009, 01:34 PM   #36
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Maybe. But people who think they are good people cuz theyīre very religious are not that good people. Nothing against anybody.
Oh yeah, I totally agree with you there. You can judge people by their deeds more than by their words. Or better yet, don't judge people at all.

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