Underwater Battles - Page 2

TSR · 02-25-2009, 06:10 PM

Keep it short and sweet ftw.

Just like your visits to these forums redtech

Ever heard of COBRA Sales + Marketing?

@LordOfTheFish- Gotta do what you can to keep these boards alive bro. Seeing as there isn't anything new to start a thread with, may as well expand on some old but slightly interesting ones until something new leaks out.

Redtech · 03-02-2009, 07:27 AM

COBRA sales? Sounds like GI Joe's worst enemy!

You know what I want? BF3 to kick Killzone's arse. Could you imagine a dark shooter that has a style like that? I'd have a heart attack seeing an SBD with that kind of hardware.

And no Jedi plzthx.

jawathehutt · 03-02-2009, 04:08 PM

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And no Jedi plzthx.

qft

GeneralPloKoon · 03-02-2009, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Redtech

And no Jedi plzthx.

Indeed.

Bokken · 03-03-2009, 12:21 AM

I think we've all agreed that Jedi detract from the original purpose and fun of the game.

Redtech · 03-03-2009, 12:01 PM

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I think we've all agreed that Jedi detract from the original purpose and fun of the game.

It's a point that still needs to be forced (pardon the pun!)

joesdomain · 03-04-2009, 06:37 PM

No underwater battles in my opinion. Keep it land battles, air battles and space battles. Unless you talk about walking through swamps, lakes, rivers then that is cool.

Darth Eclipse · 03-13-2009, 01:37 PM

I like having heroes in the game to play as. Why don't you guys?

I don't like the SWBF 1 heroes though. Those were awful.

Redtech · 03-13-2009, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Eclipse

I like having heroes in the game to play as. Why don't you guys?

I don't like the SWBF 2 heroes though. Those were awful.

Corrected.

The thing is, that SWBF is a SHOOTER GAME!
That's right.

Guns.
Shooting.
Jawas.

You play as a no-name grunt, fighting no name grunts in the Star Wars Universe. Do you know how many games exist that have you playing as a Jedi and pwning? Almost all. Why can't the other aspects of the universe be depicted in a reasonably interesting way. Hell, Republic Commando was so popular that it got a book trilogy.

Other games show Jedi in a far more interesting light rather than "hold down the attack button and kill people by walking into them". Force Unleashed and KOTOR are particularly spectacular examples, and in BF2 especially they stand out and dominate far too easily, to the point that it feels more like I'm waiting to take my turn as Darth Maul, rather than concentrating or caring about learning to play properly.

As for non-jedi heros, they're amusing, but they're not interesting enough to really make a difference compared to getting the elite weapons(and I'm discounting General Asthma in this argument) and they're more fanservice than anything IMHO.

What I really want to see is the K.I.S.S principle taken to a logical conclusion: make a game indepth not by adding complication, but by making the individual classes all the more satisfying to play as.

GeneralPloKoon · 03-13-2009, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Eclipse

I like having heroes in the game to play as. Why don't you guys?

I don't like the SWBF 1 heroes though. Those were awful.

Every Star Wars game these days happen to have a lighsaber in it. Jedi don't have to be everywhere, we are meant to play as grunts.

Bokken · 03-14-2009, 11:25 AM

If you want lightsaber combat, there are tons of other games. If you want Jedi vs. Infantry action, there's SWBF2. You can just stick to that once SWBF3 comes out.

Darth Eclipse · 04-28-2009, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Redtech

Corrected.

The thing is, that SWBF is a SHOOTER GAME!
That's right.

Guns.
Shooting.
Jawas.

You play as a no-name grunt, fighting no name grunts in the Star Wars Universe. Do you know how many games exist that have you playing as a Jedi and pwning? Almost all. Why can't the other aspects of the universe be depicted in a reasonably interesting way. Hell, Republic Commando was so popular that it got a book trilogy.

Other games show Jedi in a far more interesting light rather than "hold down the attack button and kill people by walking into them". Force Unleashed and KOTOR are particularly spectacular examples, and in BF2 especially they stand out and dominate far too easily, to the point that it feels more like I'm waiting to take my turn as Darth Maul, rather than concentrating or caring about learning to play properly.

As for non-jedi heros, they're amusing, but they're not interesting enough to really make a difference compared to getting the elite weapons(and I'm discounting General Asthma in this argument) and they're more fanservice than anything IMHO.

What I really want to see is the K.I.S.S principle taken to a logical conclusion: make a game indepth not by adding complication, but by making the individual classes all the more satisfying to play as.

I don't like SWBF 1 heroes because they were almost invincible.

M@RS · 04-28-2009, 11:17 PM

I don't believe SWBF 1 had playable Heroes.

LordJhredmo · 04-29-2009, 01:09 AM

It didn't. I felt it was best just to pretend he didn't post... -_-

Bokken · 04-29-2009, 10:22 AM

True, only the AI could get them, but they were still very hard to kill.

Darth Eclipse · 05-16-2009, 08:06 AM

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I don't believe SWBF 1 had playable Heroes.

I never said they had playable heroes in SWBF 1! I said that they were almost invincible (and they are) but I never once mentioned them being playable.

M@RS · 05-16-2009, 11:36 AM

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I never said they had playable heroes in SWBF 1! I said that they were almost invincible (and they are) but I never once mentioned them being playable.

Who said I was quoting or even talking to you?

Darth Eclipse · 05-24-2009, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by M@RS

Who said I was quoting or even talking to you?

Good point...

CrownStar · 06-01-2009, 10:15 AM

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Water gets shallow, why would it have to be in only deep water? What if a land level had an area where you fought underwater.

That would be nice if that happened, actually. Because I can see if it's solely underwater, things can get empty and a bit boring in the long run, like the space battles from BF II. So I like that idea of land and water combined. But maybe underwater there would be only a couple of CP's, so that the battle would be balanced instead of people focusing solely on land only...or water only.

LordOfTheFish · 06-01-2009, 11:22 AM

The only problem with this is that the clones, empire, and rebel factions cant breath underwater, and I doubt the droids could function that well. They would need to design a new unit with a breath mask that could play on both water and land terrains.

CrownStar · 06-01-2009, 11:25 AM

Yeah, some Unit that could. And I wouldn't suggest they make vehicles for traversing underwater. If they do that then the place shouldn’t be at all that large. If one side is larger than the other, one side will attract more attention either way.

Bokken · 06-01-2009, 12:16 PM

All they really have to do is reskin the units to make them aquatic and say that they have mouthpieces.

Darth Eclipse · 07-24-2009, 03:13 PM

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All they really have to do is reskin the units to make them aquatic and say that they have mouthpieces.

Yeah lol.

jondavis · 07-29-2009, 04:01 PM

This is why the game needs other playing kinds.
Mon Calamari and Gungans can breath under water or at least stay under much longer then humans. Underwater playing would make a great escape when someone is chasing you.
There are many underwater vehicles also but most of them are not Empire or Republic ships.
I'm for it but we might need a cool under water battle in the Clone Wars or something to show us some weapons to fight with.