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Old 06-27-2009, 01:03 AM   #1
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The Windows 7 Thread

*Astro Edit: Im stickying this Windows 7 thread for the immediate future just so any W7 news and queries can be localised here. I will gather important links back in this post to make it easier to spot. Cheers to urluckyday for the original thread*

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Hey guys! The Windows 7 pre-order plan started today...if you buy a PC w/ Vista home premium (or above), you get to upgrade to Windows 7 at little or no cost when it's released. Also, if you pre-order 7 from Microsoft's store, Amazon, etc., you get the upgrade versions of Home Premium or Professional for over 50% off the original price...

Check it here...
http://store.microsoft.com/microsoft/Windows-Windows-7/category/102

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Windows 7 Handy Links:

All the news directly from the developers:
The Windows 7 Team Blog

For anyone contemplating an upgrade pathway > there is a great article explaining the various routes.
The Ultimate Windows 7 Upgrade FAQ

Report of Windows 7 Beta (Build 7000) [Jan 2009]

Windows 7 Release Candidate [RC Build 7100] Reviews:

Paul Thurrot's Windows Supersite Win7 RC Reveiw [April 23 2009] >>comprehensive and easy to read

Engadget [April 20 2009]

Toms Hardware [March 12 2009]



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Old 06-27-2009, 01:52 AM   #2
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I've heard that it has all of the good stuff that XP Had and the sensible things that Vista has without all of the psychoticness of and inferiority of the two. I may go with a W7 PC if I don't choose to roll with a Mac instead.


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I'm trying out the RC right now, and I am liking what I am seeing. My only problem with it is the ability to put your shortcuts on your bottom menu, although that's more my own problem than one with 7. I often click my Crysis button when I try to click maximize my Photoshop. Believe me, that gets old, fast.
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I'm glad Microsoft has decided to actually be generous for once, if only for a brief period of time. But I'm somewhat worried about compatibility for those using Windows 7 Home Premium.
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^Well you'd be surprised I think. A lot of programs have problems when the OS version changes (i.e. from XP 5.0 and up to Vista 6.0)...they decided to keep it the same version number (just make it 6.1) to avoid the most basic compatibility issues...Also, they've made the XP compatibility easier to access in this version. I don't think there will be any major problems with compatibility this time around.



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Old 06-27-2009, 09:48 AM   #6
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7 is a definite improvement over Vista, and a bit of an improvement over XP. Still, Microsoft has this policy of changing and eventually ruining stuff that already works well. The Explorer interface, for example, is cluttered with shortcuts to features that I'll never need when managing files. Still, I like how they've taken a page from Linux and established a proper /home C:\Users directory instead of that C:\Documents and Settings mindgame in XP.

Still, license are still overly expensive, especially with the little that you get.
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Old 06-27-2009, 11:06 AM   #7
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I've had no problems with Vista. Sure, I waited until it had been out for a couple of years before switching to it, but I usually do that with OSes to avoid most of the problems that the early-adopters have to put up with. I like to let other people be the guinea pigs, and I'll most likely be doing the same with 7.


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Old 06-27-2009, 04:29 PM   #8
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I'm not familiar with the "upgrade" method for OSes b/c I always just get a new PC before I get a new OS...but maybe someone can answer this for me.

Say I upgrade my current PC (Vista) to Windows 7, but I have to reformat at some point (using the recovery method from my manufacturer)...wouldn't that mean that I'd go back to Vista when I get everything reformatted? If so, would I be able to re-upgrade back to 7 that I bought?



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Old 06-28-2009, 02:02 AM   #9
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I've never had to do that, myself, because I've always just bought an OEM copy instead of the retail upgrade because it's usually cheaper.


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Fix their home team score on the board to the debt clock, they can win every game 17,000,000,000,000 to 24. Losing team gets taxed by the IRS 100%, then droned."
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I am currently using RC full time on my htpc and tablet, and will be deploying RTM on those when it is released (supposedly mid july is the word as msdn/technet)

I am using RC part time on my gaming and the quadro powered editing pc(not mine) that I get to do some work on. This is for testing purposes.

Those familiar with vista will see win7 as a lighter and snappier evolution of it. Those who jump to W7 from XP and think it is magical and nice, may not be realising that the much maligned Vista was integral to W7 being 'so much better than it'

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Old 06-28-2009, 09:56 AM   #11
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I put in my pre-order today, Newegg is selling pre-order upgrade disks for 50% off.

I'll be upgrading from XP when the time arrives, and I'm actually looking forward to it. I used the beta version of the upgrade adviser and it found only a couple of conflicts with my system which was good news for me.

So, those of you that are using the beta, is the general consensus that it's a good OS?


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Old 06-29-2009, 07:46 PM   #13
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Just pre-ordered home premium.

Does the upgrade disc also act as a recovery disc as well?



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hmmm...can't say I know the answer to that question....


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Old 06-30-2009, 05:57 AM   #15
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Just pre-ordered home premium.

Does the upgrade disc also act as a recovery disc as well?
best create one once you get W7 installed... or use a backup proggie like acronis.

I also am an oem fan myself... though will be getting an RTM build from a msdn subscriber who owes me...

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Old 06-30-2009, 06:06 AM   #16
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There's a deal going on right now at Newegg on the Windows 7 upgrade ($50.00 for Home Premium), and I think that a lot of people are going to end up buying it to ditch Vista on the cheap.

I'd like to know myself if it's worth upgrading from Vista Home Premium at that price. What will Windows 7 bring to the table that I won't be able to get with Vista? This is coming from a generally satisfied Vista user.


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Old 06-30-2009, 10:50 AM   #17
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<articlelink moved to post 1> Astro

This article is a cnet review of what looks like an early beta build from January. Even though it's about 6 months old I still found it pretty informative.


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okay, maybe i missed something, but if you already have Win 7 RC installed, can you just get an activation code from Microsoft (when its available, obviously)? or do you have to go through the trouble of uninstalling Win7 RC and then install the retail version??


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best create one once you get W7 installed... or use a backup proggie like acronis.

I also am an oem fan myself... though will be getting an RTM build from a msdn subscriber who owes me...

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How do you create your own recovery disc? Like, I already use an external HD to backup my data, but I want a disc that I can use that will reinstall Windows 7 without having to worry about any licensing issues.



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okay, maybe i missed something, but if you already have Win 7 RC installed, can you just get an activation code from Microsoft (when its available, obviously)? or do you have to go through the trouble of uninstalling Win7 RC and then install the retail version??
Knowing Microsoft I wouldn't hold your breath...my guess is you'd still have to pay a fee for full activation and support, but as I said that's just a guess.


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How do you create your own recovery disc? Like, I already use an external HD to backup my data, but I want a disc that I can use that will reinstall Windows 7 without having to worry about any licensing issues.
windows has inbuilt data backup services. If you have ultimate, there is a full OS backup application. Otherwise third party apps like Acronis True Image create a full backup of your OS Image(to an external disc or another partition) which can be restored if things have gone haywire. Nowdays, I just keep all my data on non system drivers and partitions and have a vista x64 partition and two windows 7 partitions which I juggle around with different x64 or x86 builds for testing htpc/gaming stuff. Thats winding down now of course.

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I'd like to know myself if it's worth upgrading from Vista Home Premium at that price. What will Windows 7 bring to the table that I won't be able to get with Vista? This is coming from a generally satisfied Vista user
As much as I like W7, even Im sticking to Vista for my gaming rig. If you are an htpc or tablet user, I'd absolutely encourage you to get W7 asap, otherwise youre better of waiting 12 months or so for driver inconsitencies to be ironed out and DX11 hardware and games to catch up

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okay, maybe i missed something, but if you already have Win 7 RC installed, can you just get an activation code from Microsoft (when its available, obviously)? or do you have to go through the trouble of uninstalling Win7 RC and then install the retail version??
You seem to be assuming that all components have made it from build 7100 to RTM unscathed. There have been components being chopped and change since and even at this moment as RTM is finalised.

You will be able to do an upgrade install with the new disc/image you get. Otherwise, you can ride RC until March 2010. You will notice that RC is only getting 'serviceability', language and defender updates. The bugfixes are not being released as standard KBs, just being recompiled into the RTM builds.

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Old 07-04-2009, 01:40 AM   #22
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I have Vista Home Premium, can I use the Upgrade Version to upgrade to Windows 7 Professional?


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To answer your question: Yes, I'm sure you'll be able to if you buy the Win7 Professional upgrade.



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Ive read alot about W7....and have read nothing stating that this upgrade pathway would be a problem. It would likely be the most commonly deployed upgrade pathway because most people simply dont want to pay for Ultimate and all the advanced networking/backup services it contains.

If you were using your pc as a htpc in Australia, Id recommend against it because of issues with Electronic Program Guide database transfer, but I doubt this issue affects you !

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^you're right it doesn't . thanks for the answer (sorry for the double)!



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^If you can get it to work on Vista, it's almost certainly going to work on 7



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^If you can get it to work on Vista, it's almost certainly going to work on 7
Check the KOTOR sticky - Ive updated in with a report of a test I (finally) ran in W7. Looking good

Also, Im pleased to report Ive sorted out the sidebar issue in W7 You can hack vista's sidebar files back in and get it working as normal, though I hope they restored it properly by RTM...

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Oh and for those that don't know, 7 is being RTM on July 13th.



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I'm thinking about upgrading to W7, but I've never changed OSs without getting an entirely new PC with it. So I have a few questions.
  • I have 32-bit Vista right now. Will there be any complications in installing the 64-bit version of 7?
  • Should I backup any files?
  • Will I have to re-install anything?


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I do not believe you can use the "upgrade" versions of Windows 7 to go from 32 bit to 64 bit without doing a clean install...so in this sense you need to back-up your files (always do it anyway)...and yes, if you do a clean install you will need to reinstall stuff...

If you go from 32 bit to another 32 bit OS...you will have the option to install right on top of Vista, so you wouldn't have to reinstall anything, but no matter what...backup your computer before you ever make any major changes.



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I figured that would probably be the case. How much more expensive would you say the full version would be than the upgrade version?


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OEM? Still quite a bit more. Look at Vista's current pricing. It should be similar. If you want a separate license that would be the way to go. Otherwise just get the upgrade. I'm actually thinking of getting Pro for the built-in XP.


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I figured that would probably be the case. How much more expensive would you say the full version would be than the upgrade version?
Way more expensive...almost double in some cases I believe...any specific needs for 64 bit jw?



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Old 07-08-2009, 10:57 PM   #35
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Thing is, AFAIK with the upgrade you'll get both 32- and 64-bit versions. With OEM it's either one or the other.

64-bit is becoming more and more preferable nowadays with RAM being as cheap as it is.


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Fix their home team score on the board to the debt clock, they can win every game 17,000,000,000,000 to 24. Losing team gets taxed by the IRS 100%, then droned."
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and the x86 comaptibility layer being as clever as it is

At this stage, unless you run multiple VMs, a server of some type, or niche x64 apps(adobe CS4 64 bit Edition for example), the only advantage to x64 is saying you use x64 to sound impressive (Unfortunately it usually impresses no one, especially not hot babez)

Ive been jumping between Vista and W7 x86 v x64 for htpc/games and apart from the niche apps on an editing rig, cannot conclusively say x64 is *clearly superior* A net search will also display a similar paucity of information illustrating a clear impetus to move towards x64 outside of niche apps.

Until devs start coding for it(games and apps), its not going to reach its potential. MS is working on the transition by having a more through compatibility layer, and XP virtualisation in W7.

Dont get upset at me though, I say this as an x64 user of course (but only 3gb RAM atm... and I was given the x64 oem by someone I built a htpc for)

It wouldnt be unusual if Windows8 was to be entirely x64, but then again, this was predicted when W7 was still Project Blackcomb...

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Old 07-09-2009, 12:07 AM   #37
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and the x86 comaptibility layer being as clever as it is
Yeah, I should have mentioned that, too. Vista64's x86 compatibility layer makes XP64's look like a joke. There's very few reasons not to go ahead and get 64-bit these days.


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Fix their home team score on the board to the debt clock, they can win every game 17,000,000,000,000 to 24. Losing team gets taxed by the IRS 100%, then droned."
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Well, I went ahead and got in on the Home Premium upgrade deal. I got it for $45.00, so I can't really complain about the price. Buying an OEM copy will be at least twice that much.

This whole discount program appears to be M$' way of saying, "we're sorry about Vista," while making money at the same time. The thing is, I've been playing around with Vista since before Service Pack 1 came out and I've never had any problems with it other than the minor inconveniences that usually accompany getting used to a new OS. The transition from 9x to XP was rougher, IIRC.

Sorry about the double post, Astro, but I figured that it would be OK after 3 days.


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Sorry about the double post, Astro, but I figured that it would be OK after 3 days.
lolz....I'll let it slide...this time

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Well, I went ahead and got in on the Home Premium upgrade deal. I got it for $45.00, so I can't really complain about the price. Buying an OEM copy will be at least twice that much.

This whole discount program appears to be M$' way of saying, "we're sorry about Vista," while making money at the same time. The thing is, I've been playing around with Vista since before Service Pack 1 came out and I've never had any problems with it other than the minor inconveniences that usually accompany getting used to a new OS. The transition from 9x to XP was rougher, IIRC.

Sorry about the double post, Astro, but I figured that it would be OK after 3 days.
Well most people that don't like it haven't had enough time to mess around with it to realize that it's actually better and easier than XP...Vista's problems are more related to image rather than incompatibility, bugs, etc.



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