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Darkside Revan 17 21.79%
Lightside Revan 32 41.03%
Both 17 21.79%
Niether 8 10.26%
I Don't Care 4 5.13%
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:18 AM   #41
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My take on it, both are from my fanfic stash:

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She took the choice of a Jedi, hadn’t she? To preserve a life, even that of a foe? Except, she now realized, she hadn’t preserved a life. There was some of Revan present, to be sure, but Bastila could sense the part of her own life she gave up had fused onto it, like a cortosis weave on steel. What was growing was neither herself or Revan, but something…different.
- Bastila on the comatose Revan

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"No, I say what I mean. I didn’t blab what I knew right away because I wanted to see whom we were dealing with. Now, the house is Revan’s, some of those furnishings might be Revan’s, but the occupant…" Jolee swore quietly. "The damn Council was luckier – and I AM calling it luck – than they deserved to be."

"She’s Revan – Darth Revan. No matter what the Council did, it still won’t change that fact."

"No, what I knew was that Revan was captured, and the Jedi Council decided to play at being gods in order to get what they want – and probably without the slightest consideration past it, though they’ll profess otherwise." Jolee sighed.
- Jolee and Carth after the Leviathan incident


I see the PC not so much as Revan, but as a new life born of the Force bond between Revan and Bastila. This is a big factor in why I tend not to play male much, as the whole thing comes off as Oedepus Rex.

As to my particular character? Yes, she's LS. She didn't choose the Jedi, though; she chose her companions. After that awards ceremony, she would be inclined to hand Vandar her lightsaber and ask to be cut off from the Force in order to live a normal life.


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Old 02-18-2009, 04:19 PM   #42
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Both. Revan isn't a "grey Jedi." He's not on the borderline between light and dark. At separate times, he's encompassed both sides individually, and in the end, he's become a force nexus in which all aspects of the Force flow through him. He is set apart from other beings, because he never was truly seduced by the dark side, nor hampered by the contemplativeness of the light side. He is ALL of the Force.


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Old 02-18-2009, 07:19 PM   #43
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Both. Revan isn't a "grey Jedi." He's not on the borderline between light and dark. At separate times, he's encompassed both sides individually, and in the end, he's become a force nexus in which all aspects of the Force flow through him. He is set apart from other beings, because he never was truly seduced by the dark side, nor hampered by the contemplativeness of the light side. He is ALL of the Force.
wow. that was good that was sorta what i was thinking but you telled it better


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Old 02-21-2009, 11:38 PM   #44
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I like both lightside and darkside revan...though i think Revan was niether.

revan(after the mandalorian wars) when he found the "Great Threat" he knew that the Republic, Jedi's, and all those good ppl would wait, they would use safe and weak tactics in order to save its own ppl. Revan knew only that sometimes you need to do things forcefully to get the job done. I'm not saying Revan thought it was a good plan to be "evil" per-say but he knew that sometimes people and planets must be sacrificed in order to save the future.

Revan knew that the Republic was too corrupt and weak for it to fight the Greatest threat to the galaxy. I may not like the Sith but when they're in control, most threats are abolished....and its because they dont try to save every person, they do things quick and ruthless. The republic wastes to much time saving its ppl than focusing on destroying the threat faster.

idky i explained that but i thought i had to. Revan did only what was nessesary to save the future.


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Old 03-11-2009, 10:17 PM   #45
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You totally forgot that the memory wiped Revan isn't the Revan we know at all.

The memory wiped Revan is just something you carve into what we call "Revan"

The REAL Revan is the one who embraced the dark side only to defeat his enemies, and for a greater good.

He never "fell" to the dark side either.

That's the one I prefer, so I guess I'm going with neither.
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Old 03-19-2009, 09:10 PM   #46
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In addition to the fact that neither lightside or darkside Revan existed prior to the mindwipe performed by the Jedi Council since Revan never fell, I prefer neither since Jedi Council induced LS Revan is a idiot who will swallow any bull Bastila and the Council feed him and Jedi Council induced DS Revan makes Sylar from Heroes like like a teddy bear. One mod I am considering doing, in the spirit of Silveredge9's possible interpretation of Revan in BOS and Kreia's statements about him, is to add dialog options to KOTOR for the PC that are in the spirit of the true Revan.

So my vote is neither. Go TrueRevan, benevolent Dark Lord of the Sith.


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Old 09-20-2009, 09:32 PM   #47
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I like this: "benevolent Dark Lord of the Sith." At least this is cannon inside the solipsistic universe of my imagination. Full freedom as a sith, but also sees that there is value in human life (even if some have to be sacrificed for the greater good). Revan wouldn't think that the Jedi code is entirely wrong, but rather shortsighted. Just take out the "there is no..." parts. The Sith code would need some revision too for Revan.

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Old 09-20-2009, 10:18 PM   #48
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@ Lord of Hunger & TheJedi76: Once Revan had his revelation aboard the Levithan, he got his memories back...so effectively, He is the Dark Lord Revan at that point(since he has all his memories) Then, canon suggests he rejected this in favor for the light. Perhaps it was influenced from Bastila, or somebody else, but I don't think so. My option would have to be for "Revan the Force User". At the end of KotOR, he was not Sith(He would've returned to Korriban as his Darkside ending says) and he was not Jedi(He would've stayed with the order) Instead, he ventured into the Unknown Regions. Just my little opinion.
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Old 09-20-2009, 11:20 PM   #49
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You totally forgot that the memory wiped Revan isn't the Revan we know at all.

The memory wiped Revan is just something you carve into what we call "Revan"

The REAL Revan is the one who embraced the dark side only to defeat his enemies, and for a greater good.

He never "fell" to the dark side either.

That's the one I prefer, so I guess I'm going with neither.
Hmm I'm interested in why you say the real Revan embraced the dark side for a greater good. I had always thought that he did it because he was corrupted.
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Old 09-21-2009, 10:41 AM   #50
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ONLY the Council stand by their original choice and no one else does. Before you start spouting off on how it doesn't matter what everyone else thinks, doesn't it seem a little too convenient how the Council always thinks it right and many of their followers think they were wrong?

If they were so effective and trustworthy, then why did so many of their followers abandon them for a young and defiant jedi like Revan? Maybe all logic suggests that were wrong all along? If you say there's no evidence of that, then tell me why you claim such a thing w/out evidence of your own. Lack of evidence is not evidence in itself, so don't use it!
i love how people who choose to believe the council were wrong to not intervene in the war always conveniently forget one thing - revan's very actions proved them right. 100% right.

i'm not talking about his actions in going to war, fighting the war, or 'winning' the war. i'm talking about what he did after his redemption. what he did after the star forge was destroyed. he went to seek out the true threat the republic faced.

what were the reasons behind the council urging caution? they wanted to see who the true threat was. they wanted to know who they were really fighting against. this is stated many times in both games.

canderous freely admits the mandalorians were duped into attacking the republic.

by joining the war effort too early revan made a massive tactical error - he (apparently) failed to consider that the council may indeed have been correct. that there was something/someone else driving the war. by charging in he failed to allow them to be drawn out. he realised this error and thus went off to find them on his own - and in doing so admitted that the council was basically right all along.

all of these facts are presented during the course of both games.
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Old 09-21-2009, 10:51 AM   #51
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I prefer the true Revan the one who led his forces to destroy the Republic and was betrayed by his apprenice.



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Old 09-21-2009, 02:09 PM   #52
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Interesting post. Was this really what the council was thinking? (bear in mind I'm about to play TSL for the first time so I wouldn't know). Strictly from KOTOR, if you choose the dark side at the temple, the yoda-like character tells Bastilla that Malak needs to be stopped to "end the sith threat forever." He certainly didn't seem aware of an even greater threat from beyond.
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