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Old 01-03-2006, 07:28 AM   #1
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Joystick

I didn't release that i could play Xwing Alliance, until i read one of these forums (thanks), so i found my copy and installed it straight away.

The proplem is i don't have a Joystick

Can i buy any old Joystick? or do i need to try and get one that is compatable with the game these days?

Its been awhile since ive used one. I could say something dirty here but i'll let you use you imageantion.
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Old 01-03-2006, 08:17 AM   #2
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IIRC, XWA won´t start without a joystick. There is no issue of compatibility, any DirectX compatible will do. I would recomend one with force feedback
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Old 01-03-2006, 09:06 AM   #3
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Thanks Fondas. will a throttle one work as well.

One where you use both hands, your left hand on the trottle while your right use the joystick. (incase you didn't know what i ment)
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Old 01-03-2006, 09:21 AM   #4
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Yep.
I use the older Logitech Wingman force-feedback sticks, but any of the newer ones should do. The MS Sidewinders are supposed to be really good also. Even a gamepad would probably work, if you don't mind remapping the controls a bit.

But a stick with a throttle and a bunch of programmable buttons is generally the best way to go.


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Old 01-03-2006, 04:12 PM   #5
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Even an old two-button CH FlightStick will work, but keep in mind that not all sticks, even USB ones, are auto-detected. IIRC, the only sticks that will be auto-detected are Logitech WingMan Digitals and Microsoft Sidewinders. The other types have to be manually added through Control Panel, and there are a bunch of generic types, so choose the one that best describes the stick you have. To determine the type, keep in mind that a three-axis stick refers to a stick that can be twisted as well as moved up and down and sideways, and a POV switch (as listed in Control Panel) is commonly referred to as a "hat".



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Old 01-04-2006, 03:39 AM   #6
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Thanks Fondas. will a throttle one work as well.

One where you use both hands, your left hand on the trottle while your right use the joystick. (incase you didn't know what i ment)
Hi revillsp,

what you´re talking about is commonly known as HOTAS (Hands On Throttle And Stick). The answer is yes, a HOTAS system will work and will also give you a lot of flexibility.

I finished XWA using a Saitek X36 HOTAS, later I even used my Cougar HOTAS also, but I have to admit the latter is an overkill for games like XWA

Anyway, if you can afford a HOTAS, it´s the best way to go. Saitek sells the X52 at a reasonable price.

If you´re looking for minimal throttle control, all major companies have sticks with a little trottle attached to them.

It´s all a matter of taste....and money !
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Old 01-04-2006, 10:28 AM   #7
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Thanks Fondas i really apprestate that.

But im starting to wounder if its going to be worth it, because the cheaper Joysticks start from about £20. and if im only going to use it with XWA (Don't get me wrong) is it really going to be worth it?

Well i guess thats something im going to have to figure out myself.

Thanks again, all of you
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Old 01-04-2006, 02:57 PM   #8
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any gamer worth his salt should own at least one joystick.
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Old 01-04-2006, 05:19 PM   #9
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any gamer worth his salt should own at least one joystick.
In your mind maybe......

But these days i normaly play FPS, RTS and RPG's which as you sould know, if your a game, don't need a Joystick.
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Old 01-04-2006, 07:25 PM   #10
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any gamer worth his salt should own at least one joystick.
5 years ago I'm sure I would have said the exact same thing,.. but since there hasn't been a flight combat sim really worth a damn to come out for PC in the last couple of years I can kinda understand why someone might not have one.

Mine have been mostly collecting dust for the last couple of years.


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Old 01-04-2006, 08:47 PM   #11
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Frankly, I own a Sidewinder, with tons of buttons, hat, throttle, etc. but I find it no better than my old two-button joystick. I wind up using the keyboard for most things even though I map them to the joystick. It just feels more comfortable. The only "advanced" joystick feature I really like is the "twisty stick", used for rolling as opposed to holding down one of the buttons and moving the stick. Sadly, X-Wing does not support that. But X-Wing Alliance does, and it is a great improvement.
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Old 01-05-2006, 12:35 PM   #12
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my joystick is a gravis blackhawk digital, at least 6 or 7 years old, and I use it almost solely for XWA.

My point is that as a gamer, you should be prepared for any type of game. Not having a joystick because you're primarily an FPS player limits yourself.
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Old 01-05-2006, 05:45 PM   #13
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my joystick is a gravis blackhawk digital, at least 6 or 7 years old, and I use it almost solely for XWA.

My point is that as a gamer, you should be prepared for any type of game. Not having a joystick because you're primarily an FPS player limits yourself.
Yeah, i can see where your coming from.

but how many games these day need a joystick....

for example, Freelancer is sort of simliar to XWA, and your able to play that without a joystick, just a keyboard and mouse.

Also im not a primarily a FPS more of a RTS player that y you'll see most of my posts on the EAW area, FPS come seconed and RPS im just getting into thanks to KOTOR.
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Old 01-10-2006, 01:07 PM   #14
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I'd go with a Logitech stick, provided you're right handed. They're well made and they have good ergenomics.

Of course what I've always wanted is HOTAS and pedals, oh and one of those things microsoft makes so you can talk to your computer, for wingman commands.


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Old 01-22-2006, 01:39 PM   #15
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I've got an old Sidewinder Precision Pro that's wearing out. Are the logitech sticks similar? All the ones with springs just died horribly, including two thrustmasters, and the $25 saitek i got was so resistive and unresponsive I gave up trying to use it.
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Old 01-22-2006, 04:55 PM   #16
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Saitek ST250 Pro. I have no problems. Mapping the throttle settings to the POV Hat works great. Was fairly cheap too.



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Old 01-24-2006, 11:01 AM   #17
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Just found this yesterday: PPJoy can emulate a joystick using the keyboard or mouse for those of you who are really hard-up.


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Old 11-18-2009, 09:05 PM   #18
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Just found this yesterday: PPJoy can emulate a joystick using the keyboard or mouse for those of you who are really hard-up.
thanks for this, its exactly what ive been looking for
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Old 11-18-2009, 11:20 PM   #19
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The irony of this thread being revived:

That I just retired all my joysticks last week simply because they hadn't been used in 4 or 5 years.


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Old 11-19-2009, 02:44 AM   #20
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wow, a blast from the past !
I received an e-mail, pointing me to this thread ...
oh the memories !

P.S. no matter if you find a way to play XWA with Track IR , joystick is the only way to go.
Even if you get one just to play this game.
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:06 PM   #21
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Hi everyone,
i just installed the good old game, and remembered the thing with the joystick. I thought moment: ive got one ! The xbox 360 controller can be used on PC because it uses USB as interface. So i plugged the thing in in the USB port of my PC, AND .... it dont worked. The game do not recognizes the xbox controller as joystick. Do anybody know the way out ? Or maybe a driver to play with mouse & keyboard ?

Please help me people: i loved this game !
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Old 07-19-2013, 01:29 PM   #22
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sheepdog, you may need to select the controller in Control Panel, go to Advanced Settings, and fish around for and check the box that says something like "Use this controller for older games"


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