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View Poll Results: Which Special Edition would you like to see LucasArts make next?
Maniac Mansion 12 19.35%
Zak McKraken 10 16.13%
Loom 4 6.45%
Indiana Jones 3 7 11.29%
Fate of Atlantis 16 25.81%
Day of the Tentacle 9 14.52%
Sam & Max: Hit the Road 4 6.45%
Full Throttle 6 9.68%
Curse of Monkey Island 10 16.13%
Grim Fandango 11 17.74%
Escape from Monkey Island 8 12.90%
A brand new title 14 22.58%
The Dig 7 11.29%
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Old 06-24-2010, 05:41 PM   #1
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LucasArts's next game...

Which LucasArts game would you like to see get the Special Edition treatment?

Or should they skip the SEs and try something new?

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Old 06-24-2010, 06:08 PM   #2
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I would love to see a FOA special edition, partially because it was my first Lucasarts adventure, but also because I would like to see how the SE team would handle a more realistic style. That, and the music is my second favorite from a Lucasarts game; right behind Monkey Island.

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Old 06-24-2010, 06:09 PM   #3
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Brand new I think. I'd say CMI usually but I'm feeling over satuated with MI now. GF would be good too but the original is good enough.
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Old 06-24-2010, 06:13 PM   #4
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i would like to see a 2d grim fandango
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Old 06-24-2010, 06:25 PM   #5
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Why 2D, Gos? Because of control reasons or art style?
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Old 06-24-2010, 06:26 PM   #6
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You mean Escape from Monkey Island - Fixed Edition
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Old 06-24-2010, 06:28 PM   #7
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i mean 2d cartoon like CMI, you know manny calavera was in CMI as "quiet patron" so it would be awesome to play grim fandango CMI styled.
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Yeah a redone EMI would be good for me because I'm still not confident in this team. But fixing EMI... the only way to go is up.
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Old 06-24-2010, 07:31 PM   #9
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My preference would be a brand new title but my gut tells me they'll do a special edition of another older license, like Maniac Mansion. Not that that would be unwelcome either.

And aside from whatever the "Special Editions and Lucidity" team do next (aren't they supposed to be making Handsome Halibut?), I'd like LEC's next game to be a new Indiana Jones.
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Old 06-24-2010, 08:01 PM   #10
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I've been saying it for years, and I still think there's potential for an Indiana Jones game to move more into RPG territory - controlling a party with Indy and a sidekick or two, making it more adventurey with a good storyline, like KOTOR, with dialogue puzzles (and other puzzles), disguises, weapons, exploration and side-quests etc and a more measured pace than the slug / shootfests of the last Indy titles.
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Old 06-25-2010, 12:48 AM   #11
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In my opinion, Special Editions aren't necessary for any game released between 1995 and today.
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Old 06-25-2010, 01:03 AM   #12
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Where's The Dig?
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Old 06-25-2010, 01:51 AM   #13
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Why 2D, Gos? Because of control reasons or art style?
Both, actually. If they wrangled Chan to work the backgrounds and threw in some extra puzzles ala the Design Doc, Lucasarts could have a hit on their hands. The latest builds of Scumm are definitely up to it.

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I've been saying it for years, and I still think there's potential for an Indiana Jones game to move more into RPG territory - controlling a party with Indy and a sidekick or two, making it more adventurey with a good storyline, like KOTOR, with dialogue puzzles (and other puzzles), disguises, weapons, exploration and side-quests etc and a more measured pace than the slug / shootfests of the last Indy titles.
I totally agree!

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What? Hey, look over there!

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Old 06-25-2010, 08:39 AM   #15
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I kind of don't really want any more Special Editions. I own all the games already, it's just adding "fluff" beyond the originals, IMO. Of course, that won't stop me from buying MI2:SE...


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Old 06-25-2010, 10:15 AM   #16
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I'd like to see special editions for the games that didn't get talkies: Maniac Mansion, Zak McKracken, and The Last Crusade. And Labyrinth too, but I doubt they'd do a special edition of that one.

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In my opinion, Special Editions aren't necessary for any game released between 1995 and today.
I don't agree with this on the 3D games, just because the rudimentary polygons and low res textures in both Grim Fandango and Escape From Monkey Island are still on the primitive side of 3D games from the 90s. Grim Fandango got by with strong art direction, but just seeing someone maybe rerender all the backgrounds in HD (and maybe sprucing up the background models a bit, although they still look great to me) as well as just smoothing out all of the real time 3D characters would be awesome to me. Escape would do well with something similar.

I realize going back and fixing a 3D game is way more work than just drawing over an existing 2D game, but it's not impossible, considering both of the LUA games have great voice acting and music already. I would imagine technical problems with changing models that already have set animation and rigs would be the most obnoxious hurdle. Plus rerendering all the cutscenes could be a possible nightmare.

I agree with Udvarnoky on remakes of the two earlier adventures Maniac Mansion and Zak McKracken. The only thing I fear is while those games would do great with almost any sort of graphical overhaul, I don't know if anyone today not already familiar with that style of adventure design would be keen on playing those. That said, Maniac Mansion has the better design with more open ends, less difficult puzzles (and mazes!), as well as less ways to get stuck.
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Old 06-26-2010, 08:42 AM   #18
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Hard to believe that Zak McKraken and "A brand new title" are coming out on top! Also, could a kindly moderator add The Dig?

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Old 06-26-2010, 10:24 AM   #19
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Yeah, the Dig was added to the poll, but I already voted.
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Old 07-07-2010, 12:13 AM   #20
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I would love to see an updated version of Maniac Mansion. Though it would be great if LA made SE for all their older titles.


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Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine. With better controls, graphics, soundtrack and just making it work properly on modern systems it could be the best Indy game ever. Again.

No matter what jp-30 says.

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Old 07-07-2010, 01:30 PM   #22
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Fate of Atlantis is the best Indy game ever.

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Old 07-08-2010, 03:51 AM   #23
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Old 07-13-2010, 06:55 AM   #24
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Great thread. I voted for 'The Dig' because id love to see that reach its full potential. However, I have a feeling that the next SE treatment will be going to Maniac Mansion. Not that i mind though. The reason for my thinking is that i noticed yesterday, Whilst i was playing the new Monkey Island 2 SE. That they have changed the 'Max' costume in the costume shop on Booty island to a costume of a purple tentacle. Could this be a sneaky clue to the next SE project? Maybe

Check for yourself. If you have the game. Go into the costume shop, At the back hit the f1 key to swap between modes
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Old 07-13-2010, 07:40 AM   #25
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Grim Fandango II made by the original creators would be awesome!
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Come to think of it, I probably would really enjoy a Fate of Atlantis remake.

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Old 07-13-2010, 08:24 AM   #27
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Fate of Atlantis is the best Indy game ever.
That game was better than Crystal Skulls and Temple of Doom. It's amazing.
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I would've loved to see Fate of Atlantis made into a movie, rather than Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. I guess Harrison is a bit old to make FoA his last project now. FoA is a true masterpiece, and I wonder if they still have the original voice recordings for it. An SE without having to record all the voices will be quite simple, if the original voice acting holds up ok. The MI2:SE has (almost) restored my faith in these special editions, and Indy 4 would be my next logical choice. I don't think they'll go back to anything before MI1 for an SE although Indy3 would be welcome. FoA, then DOTT please Sam & Max would take a lot of work, and there could be rights issues, but I'm sure we'll see Full Throttle SE at some point too. The voice acting is sound already, and it's a pretty short game, so development would take less work than the MI2:SE.

The Dig should be fairly easy too, if there's a market for it. Anything up to CMI is a candidate and I hope they all get this treatment, but not before patching MI1:SE and MI2:SE please LucasArts.
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I was just telling my girlfriend the other day about Fate of Atlantis being "Indy 4" since they were mentioning it in the MI2 commentary.

Surely FoA would have made a much better movie than that complete turd that came out.
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FoA or Day of the Tentacle. playing FoA is how I learned to read, and is basically the reason that i'm studying archaeology. Plus the fan-based efforts that have been going on for about a decade now (Amberfish Arts and the Fountain of Youth) have really blue-balled me. I am dying for more Indy. (point 'n' click Indy.)

I still have never finished DoTT. For some reason I could never find it when I was younger, except for checking it out from the local library. its really sort of expensive to buy the old version these days, so a re-release or SE would solve that for me.
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Could this be a sneaky clue to the next SE project? Maybe
The project leader happens to be a Maniac Mansion fan.
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its really sort of expensive to buy the old version these days, so a re-release or SE would solve that for me.
Wow I never realised. DOTT costs now what it did when it was new! I quite like that because I have, for some reason, 5 copies of it.

My dad should've invested all his money into boxed copies of SCUMM games in the early 90s rather than buying property.
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Old 07-17-2010, 05:15 AM   #33
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I'd like zak mckracken, but really the point of the special editions isnt to alter the plot or "give it a better ending because the original one was crap" or stuff like that, just make it look nicer, with voices if neccesary".


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No CMI SE for me. Not sure there will even be one. Bummed.


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I don't know why Grim Fandango's graphics keep getting cited as a reason for a remake. I kinda think the fact that the character designs are so stylized makes it work. It's kinda like saying "I'd only buy a 1957 Ford Thunderbird if they made it look more like a 2005 Thunderbird."

Escape From Monkey Island on the other hand really would need some major graphical upgrades, and there's the whole Monkey Kombat fiasco. I'd love to see a remake of EMI with improved graphics and sound (especially the voices, and with Alexandra Boyd re-dubbing all of Elaine's lines), and a much more intuitive, easier to figure out version of Monkey Kombat.

And of the games that aren't on the list, I'd like to see all of the games from the Dark Forces series (I refuse to call it the Jedi Knight series) remade in the Force Unleashed engine.


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I think I agree mostly with the middle paragraph of daltysmilth's post. I think I'd like to see an 'Escape from Monkey Island' special edition the most out of all of those titles. I feel that it needs an update more than the others. The graphics look the worst out of all of them; the scenery looks fine, but the character models are terribly blocky and expressionless. And, of course, if there were an update, Monkey Kombat should probably be done differently - not scrapped, but just changed to be a little bit less of a drag. As for the whole Alexandra Boyd re-dubbing, that doesn't need to happen, I quite liked Charity James's take on the character.
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I really like the EMI Elaine too. And especially after MI2: SE I've completely gone off Alexandra Boyd. She was acceptable in MI1 and TMI but her MI2 performance was completely off. All the reviews I've read have commented on this.

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I don't know why Grim Fandango's graphics keep getting cited as a reason for a remake. I kinda think the fact that the character designs are so stylized makes it work. It's kinda like saying "I'd only buy a 1957 Ford Thunderbird if they made it look more like a 2005 Thunderbird."
I don't think we were asking for a redesign though, so the Thunderbird analogy is not the same.

It would just be nice to keep everything the same in Grim Fandango, plus smooth out all of the models and make the textures higher-res. The beauty of 3D graphics is that granted the bones and all the animations were kept the same, it's basically just redoing the models. The resolution is arbitrary and can be set at anything. The backgrounds should all be able to be rerendered at a higher res.It doesn't take a ton of redrawing like a 2D remake. Anything further would be icing on the cake.

Also I sort of feel like Grim Fandango needs a second wave of love, as most LucasArts fans have concentrated more than enough on Monkey Island than any other game. A redesign would suck though, definitely.

If LucasArts were to do a remake of one of their two 3D adventures, it would be a more intuitive choice since Grim is a better game in all instances. That is, unless they want to continue milking the Monkey Island brand.
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