Because Digital is Obsolete

Black Knight of Keno · 09-29-2010, 12:58 PM

Remember from around ten years ago this commercial?

YouTube Video

"For an entire generation people have experienced Star Wars the only way it's been possible; on the TV screen. But if you've only seen it this way, you haven't seen it at all!"

Well, now it's happening again!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-11434545

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The entire Star Wars film saga is to be converted into 3D, director George Lucas has announced.

[...]

Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace is expected to be released in 2012, with the other films to follow.

So basically, in five years we will be sitting in the cinema like suckers, watching a four decade old new film.

Alexrd · 09-29-2010, 01:36 PM

I'll be there, as I've been in '97.

Alkonium · 09-29-2010, 02:25 PM

3D or not, I honestly can't complain about the Star Wars Saga being back in Theatres, even if it isn't for another two years? BK, where did you get five years from?

Black Knight of Keno · 09-29-2010, 02:39 PM

Episode 1 is coming out in 2012. I assume ILM has the resources to go an episode per year, especially with Lucas wanting his cash cow to go on milking as fast as possible. So around 2015 we'll be watching Episode 4.

Also, with the rise of the 3D movies and Lucasfilms announcing the re-release of Star Wars in the format, it will gather much more attention from film makers. Other classics will probably be released in 3D as well, the most notable ones hitting the big screens while others will sink to the back of the blu-ray shelves. Either way, by 2015 we will be watching old movies in 3D.

**acdcfanbill** · 09-30-2010, 01:11 AM

Samnmax221 · 09-30-2010, 01:27 AM

Otherwise 1997 was a great year.

**RoxStar** · 09-30-2010, 01:35 AM

Simon Pegg said the following on Twitter: "Watching TPM in 3D would be like the car actually crashing into your face as opposed to just unfolding before your eyes."

That about sums it up for me ... :[

**leXX** · 09-30-2010, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by acdcfanbill

meh.

^ This.

jon_hill987 · 09-30-2010, 04:46 AM

I don't believe even ILM can make a converted 3D film look good.

The digital stuff will be fine as all they need to do is hit render again with different settings, but all the live action and models will look [rubbish -Ed].

Samnmax221 · 09-30-2010, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jon_hill987

I don't believe even ILM can make a converted 3D film look good.

ILM won't be doing it, they're farming it out to somebody else.

jon_hill987 · 09-30-2010, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Samnmax221

ILM won't be doing it, they're farming it out to somebody else.

Even worse.

**swphreak** · 09-30-2010, 06:39 PM

Pass.

Q · 09-30-2010, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxStar

Simon Pegg said the following on Twitter: "Watching TPM in 3D would be like the car actually crashing into your face as opposed to just unfolding before your eyes."

That about sums it up for me ... :[

Yup, no amount of technological turd-polishing could ever fix TPM. The only thing that could is a complete remake.

As a matter of fact, I'd be in favor of a reboot of the entire PT.

Kjølen · 09-30-2010, 11:53 PM

Remaking Star Wars to be even better in George Lucas' vision? This is an intriguing new idea that could be expanded upon 3 or 4 times, I think.

**IG-64** · 10-01-2010, 12:06 AM

Just... let it die... please...

BongoBob · 10-01-2010, 12:10 AM

What he said.

PR-0927 · 10-01-2010, 02:11 AM

Cash cow, of course. George knows he controls the world's biggest franchise and highest-grossing film series of all time. He's going to exploit the **** out of that, as he has been for some time.

It's fairly saddening. Once he realized he was making more money on the toys, he ****ed up the movies by abandoning storyline for toy-promotion.

As a SW geek I can't turn my back on any of the movies, but I must say - the PT series is SO bad compared to the OT. And that TCW film he released was an embarrassment.

EU is so much better than his garbage. CW cartoon series were phenomenal. Non-CW SW video games were the best. Everything now is so ****ty, and so transparent in an attempt to make more money that it's kind of disgusting.

Above rant and all, I WILL still go to see all six in 3D. I loved Avatar in 3D. I doubt SW in 3D will be as good since they weren't filmed for 3D, but I am curious nonetheless.

Also, AT-AT stomping down right next to you? ISD whizzing by shooting its turbolasers? Count me in!

- PR-0927

Alexrd · 10-01-2010, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by PR-0927

Cash cow, of course. George knows he controls the world's biggest franchise and highest-grossing film series of all time. He's going to exploit the **** out of that, as he has been for some time.

Since TESB. I don't understand why people complaint about the "cash-cow" when most of them have been feeding it ever since...

**Prime** · 10-01-2010, 09:49 AM

3D Death Star Trench run. Sweet.

Kain · 10-01-2010, 10:30 PM

I can see the good, and the horribly wrong, in all of this. I think I'll dodge TPM and AoC, though. There ain't enough special effects in the world to watch me watch that **** again...cept maybe Yoda's fight scene. That'd be pretty cool in 3D.

TiE23 · 10-02-2010, 12:09 AM

I think I was impressed by the 3D like four times total (four different moments) in Avatar. Otherwise 3D just makes **** look fuzzy and out of whack. 3D blows ass.

Darth Avlectus · 10-07-2010, 09:52 PM

I remember that...return to theaters... And that I only saw ANH remade.
Meh. It's ok.

From time to time I still watch my digitally remastered originals on VHS, you know, the ones with Leonard Maltin interviewing uncle George at the beginning of each episode? Yeah. The ones before the remake. If only because the original home recorded VHS tapes from HBO 20+ years ago has degraded too far to use.

edlib · 10-08-2010, 05:45 PM

My initial reaction to hearing this news (as posted as a response to a friend's Facebook status...):

"What happened to George Lucas? Can't he come up with anything new to work on?

The guy gave us Star wars and Indiana Jones... it's not exactly like he's a no talent, no vision hack.

But ENOUGH ALREADY!!! Stop mining the past!!!

I LOVE SW and Indy as much, if not more, than the next geeky dweeb... BUT PLEASE GEORGE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, DO SOMETHING NEW AND DIFFERENT!!! Take a chance for crying out loud!"

**ChAiNz.2da** · 10-29-2010, 11:19 AM

Alexrd · 10-29-2010, 12:11 PM

Do you people really think that he would release the saga in theaters and converted in 3D if there was no interest? Why do you complain? Don't like it, don't watch it. Is like the argument of "stop milking the cow". If people still drink it's milk and like it, why should he stop?

Darth Avlectus · 10-29-2010, 05:01 PM

^^^Dignity perhaps?

Alexrd · 10-29-2010, 06:01 PM

Care to explain?

Kjølen · 10-30-2010, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Alexrd

Care to explain?

Every time George creates a new movie, or television series, or card game, or comic book, the old fans have to deal with a surge of young, stupid newbloods who understand nothing of the Star Wars lore we've grown to love. For instance, many children these days probably believe the Mandalorians were pacifists. For the dignity of the original epic, many of us want to remember Star Wars as it was when it first confounded the boundaries of our imagination instead of simply numbing our thought processes with visual effect.

Darth Avlectus · 10-31-2010, 04:01 AM

^^^Good example.

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Originally Posted by Alexrd

Care to explain?

Ok...suppose you're a producer/writer/creator of something fantastic. Sure I understand you'd want to expand upon it to make it as memorable and profitable as you possibly could. Also you're doing it because, it's you. (Passion, fun, fulfillment, bucket list, you get the picture.)

Remember when your econ teacher taught you the principle of diminishing marginal returns? Applied to this: there is some definite point where these things start acting against one another and it wears out. After which the originality quickly gets to be as dead as roadkill.

In the long run, you actually do more of a disservice to your creation in how it will be perceived looking back from the future. Can you honestly say Uncle George isn't driving it into the ground whenever you see another clone wars released, or another game that ultimately becomes sub-par and "not as good as it could/should/would be"?

Some similar examples are football players or dare I say pro wrestlers who refuse to 'hang it up' and get out while the getting is still good.

Ctrl Alt Del · 11-01-2010, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Alkonium

3D or not, I honestly can't complain about the Star Wars Saga being back in Theatres

Same here, haters.

It's obviously just a commercial feint but one that I will graciously fall for.

Alexrd · 11-01-2010, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kjølen

Every time George creates a new movie, or television series, or card game, or comic book, the old fans have to deal with a surge of young, stupid newbloods who understand nothing of the Star Wars lore we've grown to love.

Are they to blame? Weren't you a "young, stupid newblood" once? Just because someone grew with Qui-Gon Jinn, Darth Maul etc, does it mean they don't understand Darth Vader, Luke or Han?! That's just a poor excuse, if you ask me.

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Originally Posted by Kjølen

For instance, many children these days probably believe the Mandalorians were pacifists.

So what? Many believed Palpatine was dead at the end of RotJ, but he isn't.

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Originally Posted by Kjølen

For the dignity of the original epic, many of us want to remember Star Wars as it was when it first confounded the boundaries of our imagination instead of simply numbing our thought processes with visual effect.

Then remember it as it was. The solution is simple: Don't watch the new versions.

Q · 11-02-2010, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Alexrd

So what? Many believed Palpatine was dead at the end of RotJ, but he isn't.

If you're talking about Dark Empire, just please, please don't.

PR-0927 · 11-02-2010, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Alexrd

So what? Many believed Palpatine was dead at the end of RotJ, but he isn't.

ROFL. You do realize that this particular direction of story is generally hated by most EU authors? In fact, certain books even snub that entire story, in-book, and help to discredit/de-canonize it. And pretty much most EU fans regard that as garbage. Bad example.

I get the feeling you're one of those who think the PT is as good as, or better than, the OT. Please prove this feeling wrong.

- PR-0927

Alexrd · 11-02-2010, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by PR-0927

ROFL. You do realize that this particular direction of story is generally hated by most EU authors? In fact, certain books even snub that entire story, in-book, and help to discredit/de-canonize it. And pretty much most EU fans regard that as garbage. Bad example.

Boba Fett then. Back from the dead.

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Originally Posted by PR-0927

I get the feeling you're one of those who think the PT is as good as, or better than, the OT.

And your feeling is based on what?

Q · 11-02-2010, 07:07 PM

^Because you seem to like the EU, and 90%+ of the EU is the same level of crap (or worse) as the PT.

Alexrd · 11-02-2010, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Q

^Because you seem to like the EU, and 90%+ of the EU is the same level of crap (or worse) as the PT.

And where did you got the idea that I like the EU? It wasn't me who brought up the Mandalorians issue. I don't like Palpatine clones any more than you do, or most of Karen Traviss stuff.

And to clarify any more assumptions about me, I'm not an EU expert or die hard fan of it. I have a couple of novels and many books (most of them are visual dictionaries and guides) and videogames, and I own some of the TV series. And I do like the PT, even though I prefer the OT. Sorry to dissapoint any haters.

BongoBob · 11-02-2010, 09:11 PM

Alexrd · 11-03-2010, 11:53 AM

PR-0927 · 11-03-2010, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Q

^Because you seem to like the EU, and 90%+ of the EU is the same level of crap (or worse) as the PT.

I'm going to be honest. I ****ing love the EU. If it weren't for EU, my love of SW would be severely diminished.

But I was getting the feeling that he liked the PT more than the OT because he seemed to be justifying George Lucas' recent cash grabs.

And umm, Boba Fett surviving FTW! Seriously. I love the stories about him in post-RotJ EU.

Karen Traviss made one blunder - killing off a widely-beloved character in the Legacy of the Force series. Her other stuff I could deal with, and somewhat liked. This was unforgivable.

- PR-0927

Alexrd · 11-03-2010, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by PR-0927

But I was getting the feeling that he liked the PT more than the OT because he seemed to be justifying George Lucas' recent cash grabs.

What I don't understand is how does this upsets people? Why do you think he releases and re-releases the movies (now in 3D)? Because people want it, and are willing to pay for it. Is he to blame? It's as I said before, why do people complaint about George milking the cash cow if people like it's milk? People have different tastes, all we have to do is to deal with it.