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Old 09-04-2010, 12:20 PM   #961
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I wasnt going to get this at first in case its on the ps3 version but i saw the trailer and it looks UBER!!
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Old 09-04-2010, 03:18 PM   #962
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I bought it all, ugly shades included >_>
Was bored to see Garus in his damaged suit.

This new DLC looks nice; previous missions where... well, fun to play. But not really that fantastic. Bit bare on the story and dialogue.


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Old 09-05-2010, 04:45 AM   #963
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i don't really see the point of this romance liara conclusionthough, because a) most of us romance an ME2 charactter anyway AND it doesn't matter at ALL. I mean, nothing happened with ashley for people who romanced her in ME1.

Is it purely coincidencee or is releasing 2 "girl romance" dlcs alongside part of some strange marketting plan


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Well the logical assumption early on was that they were saving both for ME3, but this potentially muddies the waters a little. Still, I'm not sure where they'll go with this. There doesn't look like there is room to squeeze Liara in as a permanent companion for the rest of the game, meaning she probably leaves at the end of the DLC (I suspect that the Shadow Broker escapes and she vows to pursue him/her/them/it). Even if you get a bit of quality time before she leaves, you'll likely still get the chance to knock someone else off before the final mission as per usual. The only point where conflict may arise is starting it from a post-end game save where you got some on the side. It will be interesting to see how they address that scenario.
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Old 09-05-2010, 10:59 AM   #965
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i don't really see the point of this romance liara conclusionthough, because a) most of us romance an ME2 charactter anyway AND it doesn't matter at ALL. I mean, nothing happened with ashley for people who romanced her in ME1.

Is it purely coincidencee or is releasing 2 "girl romance" dlcs alongside part of some strange marketting plan
Because having one romance in ME1 and then dumping them (turning over the picture) for someone else in ME2 is expected to play badly with any romance you may have in ME3. and presumably it is good for people who were disappointed at Liara's cold attitude in ME2, romance conclusion notwithstanding. there is no room for her as a squadmember in Me2 post-endgame or not, but i would say there is room for her in ME3, which is perhaps what they are angling at.
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Old 09-05-2010, 02:16 PM   #966
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oh who cares about the ME1 romances anyway. Lets look at our options
Ashley - Religious crap.
Liara - Moany little girl (for asari years, anyway)
Miranda - nice pixellated ass, with the face and voice of yvonne strahovski
Samara - Old..and annoyed me with the whole justice bull.
Thane - For a female character, this guy is ace for a romance, hes just way cooler, with his illness and colorful past.
Tali - Cute, it's a bit more immersive because of the thought of what she looks like under her mask. Know her from ME1.
Garrus - Awesome, Badass...know him from ME1
Morinth - Kills you if you romance her..no thanks..
Jack - Hate her..freaks me out.

so, the good ones for me are Garrus, Tali, Thane, Miranda. All from ME2 :S


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yeah, but the point is if you have two different romances across the games, it will hamper the possibility of continuing *any* of them into me3 if i understand it correctly. presumably the character is viewed as being unfaithful. who knows? but the sum total is that if you do decide the me2 romances are better (which i think they are aswell) you run the risk of screwing up the rrromance in the 3rd game, depending on your choices then obviously.
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yeah, but the point is if you have two different romances across the games, it will hamper the possibility of continuing *any* of them into me3 if i understand it correctly. presumably the character is viewed as being unfaithful. who knows? but the sum total is that if you do decide the me2 romances are better (which i think they are aswell) you run the risk of screwing up the rrromance in the 3rd game, depending on your choices then obviously.
Complications.......but that's what romance is all about anyway.
Frankly, depending on how it's handled, a confrontation w/your ex vs new "girlfriend" could be humorous.

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oh who cares about the ME1 romances anyway. Lets look at our options
Ashley - Religious crap.
Liara - Moany little girl (for asari years, anyway)
Miranda - nice pixellated ass, with the face and voice of yvonne strahovski
Samara - Old..and annoyed me with the whole justice bull.
Thane - For a female character, this guy is ace for a romance, hes just way cooler, with his illness and colorful past.
Tali - Cute, it's a bit more immersive because of the thought of what she looks like under her mask. Know her from ME1.
Garrus - Awesome, Badass...know him from ME1
Morinth - Kills you if you romance her..no thanks..
Jack - Hate her..freaks me out.

so, the good ones for me are Garrus, Tali, Thane, Miranda. All from ME2 :S
You forgot Kaidan and Jacob (- nice pixellated abs! - ) which are my choices when I play a female char. I found Garrus to be boring in ME2 "Sorry, I'm in the middle of some calibrations"...and Thane, well he's cool but regardless of the ending of ME2, I doubt he'll be around in ME3 given his story...

For my male char (Earthborn, sole survivor), I went with Jack: the paragon romance gave far more depth to her personality.

Anyway, I bet there will be a savegame editor to play around with variables for the next game too (PC users) and change your choices.
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Jacob? really? but his dialogue was taken straight out of a porno :| the priiiize....
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Old 09-07-2010, 12:27 AM   #971
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Saw this on a Tali's Face thread on BioWare Forums and i found it hilarious so i thought id share it
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You're 5 months late to that party, but it's still humorous nonetheless.
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So I ran through Lair of the Shadow Broker last night, although not before having to download the whole freaking thing twice (way to check your crap before release Bioware). It seems to be getting a lot of gushing praise, but I wasn't overly excited by it. Far too little dialogue with Liara for my tastes and the combat pacing was a bit odd
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. The controls in the car sequence were terrible on PC, but that didn't exactly surprise me after the horror that is the Hammerhead. I didn't expect the final outcome, but on reflection it was the most logical outcome. I'm not sure where the carry-over to ME3 is though. I don't recall making any noteworthy decisions. I played it as part of a new playthrough though on my first visit to Illium, so perhaps there is some additional content in the endgame I haven't seen yet that is relevant to ME3.
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Old 09-09-2010, 02:13 PM   #976
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Have to agree with you there. Visually, the job the developers did was awesome, but I'm disappointed that the Shadow Broker ended up being just another mini-villain. One other thing I didn't like, nor understand is the change of Liara's face. What's up with that!?

As for the carry-over to ME3 - well, it is a good way to write off Liara's character, or rather reduce the amount of her ME3 screentime to the amount Anderson had in ME2. Also, it would seem that Shepard is setting up his own organization, in a way. I wouldn't even be surprised if the Normandy SR-2 ends up in pieces at the beginning of ME3, after which your HQ relocates to the Shadow Broker's ship and it's from there that you take a shuttle to visit other systems.

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I don't think it can play much part in ME3 simply by virtue of the fact that it is a paid DLC, meaning not everyone will have played it. I would think it is much more likely to be a "flavour" carry-over, rather than a significant element.

As for Shep, I would think the choice at the end of ME2 would have the most significant impact on his/her allegiances in ME3. If you were a Renegade Shep that chose to keep the facility then I see no reason why you would break up the relationship with Cerberus. Still, they likely have to come up with some contrived method to set you back to level 1 again, so maybe that will factor into it.

I agree on the Liara texture change. It's pretty bizarre:



Seems like the default ME2 Liara texture is the same as ME1, it's just the lighting that makes her look a bit purple. Although possibly her eyes are a slightly different shade. LOTSB's texture though is obviously completely different. The head "scales" are different, the lip colour is different, the freckles are different, but the most obvious thing of course is the eyes. If they'd left those alone most people probably wouldn't have noticed the other changes.

EDIT: Poking around in the files, the DLC diffuse texture is definitely different from the ME1 tex. Still trying to find where the base ME2 tex is hiding. For the eyes, it looks like in ME1 she used the Human eye tex, but in the DLC she is using Samara's eye tex. Not sure about the base ME2 eye tex.

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True, not everyone will have played it, but that doesn't make this particular part of the story completely optional. I'm pretty sure that there will still be a time gap between the last thing that happens in ME2 and the beginning of ME3. I'm also sure that Liara will take down the Shadow Broker during that time gap and take his place. The only remaining question is "Did Shepard have a part in taking the SB down?" For those who played the DLC the imported answer would be "yes", while for those that didn't, it would be "no".

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So I ran through Lair of the Shadow Broker last night, although not before having to download the whole freaking thing twice (way to check your crap before release Bioware). It seems to be getting a lot of gushing praise, but I wasn't overly excited by it.
Played it yesterday and in my opinion it was their best DLC so far (for any of their games). An interesting, fairly lengthy mission with a good mix of combat, exploration and character interaction. If you were romancing Liara in ME1 (and didn't move on to another romance option in ME2 I guess) the ending was kind of sweet too, adding some more flesh to that relationship that was sorely missing in ME2 before and showing a more human side of Shepard.

All in all I'd say it was well worth the money and trouble to get it (had to download the whole thing three times since Firefox kept corrupting the download for some reason. ).

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I don't think it can play much part in ME3 simply by virtue of the fact that it is a paid DLC, meaning not everyone will have played it. I would think it is much more likely to be a "flavour" carry-over, rather than a significant element.
Not necessarily. Just because something comes separately it shouldn't mean that it has no significance for the overall story. That would almost be like saying that ME2 has no effect on the overall Mass Effect storyline since some people might just be buying Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 3. It's there, and if someone choose to skip it that'd be their loss.

The outcome of that particular mission does after all have some far-reaching consequences (much more so than the other personal missions in ME2), given the importance and influence of the Shadow Broker on the scene of galactic society. So it would be kind of stupid to just pretend it never happened.

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Old 09-10-2010, 08:18 AM   #981
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Yeah I can see that being made canon for ME3, but I still can't see what it is, choice or otherwise, that you are meant to be carrying over to ME3 in your LOTSB save.
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Played it yesterday and in my opinion it was their best DLC so far (for any of their games).
Could not agree more, while I really liked Bring Down the Sky from ME, it does not hold a candle to Lair of the Shadow Broker. There were some nitpicky things that annoyed me about the story and the game play, but overall it was extremely pleasurable to play.

I used a FemShepard from my fist playthrough that had remained loyal to Liara. One of things that I was the most pleasantly surprised about is both Liara and the Shadow Broker commented about the mission with the Collector being over.

If it carries over or not does not concern me. It was fun to play and gave me a couple hours escape from the real world.


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I thought it was absolutely awesome. The atmosphere in the Illium section was amazing, and the second section was unbelieveably epic.

and the romance scene (once i had restarted the final fight after missing a paragon prompt <_<) between my femshep and Liara was awwwwwwww very glad i bought it.
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One of my favorite parts(after playing through the Shadow Broker DLC) was the consoles that allow you to invest in either schemes, or mining locations.

Heck, there is a room beyond the console that Liara always stands infront of that lets you view various videos from various planets.(one of my favorites is the one where the reporter with the difficult name gets punched in the face by a Krogan)


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Khalisah Bint Sinan al-Jilani.

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Part of her name is actually Bint?

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I used a FemShepard from my fist playthrough that had remained loyal to Liara. One of things that I was the most pleasantly surprised about is both Liara and the Shadow Broker commented about the mission with the Collector being over.
That dialog does appear to change depending on your progress in the game. I did the Shadowbroker mission right after I did Liara's normal quest on Illium just after doing the Horizon mission. At that stage Liara remarked on Shepard saving the colonists on Horizon and going away again to vanish through the Omega-4 mass relay, and the Shadow Broker's taunt was about the Collector bounty on Shepard still being active.

I guess I'll try it after the final mission some time too, but from a gameplay perspective it makes sense to do the Shadowbroker mission as early as possible. You'll get a ton of resources and research upgrades from the drop box in the Shadow Broker HQ every time you return after having done another quest. (Many upgrades that boosts previous 5/5 research projects to be 6/6 instead.) Not much use for those if the game is already over.

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I guess I'll try it after the final mission some time too, but from a gameplay perspective it makes sense to do the Shadowbroker mission as early as possible.
You're right playing the Shadowbroker mission does make more sense doing it earlier rather than later, but per your advice; I was trying to find a Shepard that remained loyal Liara. Pretty much all the rest of my Shepards from ME1 have cheated.


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Shadow Broker made me glad I stayed faithful to Liara with my femshep (and chose her over Kaidan for that matter (my femshep doesn't so much swing both ways as *all* ways)). very cute, and much more fleshed out than the other female options, and most of the male ones although Tali will forever be my male romance option.

one a related note, i'm finding it hard to play as a Shepard that's not Kiera Shepard, my main character if you like. anyone else get this or am i just obsessed to an unhealthy degree?
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Salzella, I am exactly the same with James Shephard. This guy has been with me since ME1 and all my ME2 playthroughs. I find it hard to get involved with a different shephard. Same with Dragon age in a way. When Awakening, Golems of Amgarrak and Witch hunt were released, i never made a new character (e.g the Orlesian Warden)..It's gotta have my Gene Couseland.


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Shadow Broker made me glad I stayed faithful to Liara with my femshep (and chose her over Kaidan for that matter (my femshep doesn't so much swing both ways as *all* ways)). very cute, and much more fleshed out than the other female options, and most of the male ones although Tali will forever be my male romance option.

one a related note, i'm finding it hard to play as a Shepard that's not Kiera Shepard, my main character if you like. anyone else get this or am i just obsessed to an unhealthy degree?
Same here, three playtimes behind me now already (yeah i know some of you nerds play all your games through once a week, but ME2 is the first game i have played 3 times in under one year from the release), all with Bente Shepard Have been thinking of playing ME1 and 2 with a new character for a long time but sometimes I just end up doing new playthroughs on my first character Just finished the third today actually, galaxy 100% explored and with an empty journal. By the way, I liked the Overlord a lot, I dont know why so many people bash it. It had too much of that "Hammerhead"-sh**e (if hammers actually had heads that soft the humanity would never have built a single wooden house) but other than that it was fun. The lair was also fun, pretty much as good as the recruitation missions.


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Odd, that just happens to be my mothers name.
Your mother a man? I know its still used somewhere, but i use it cause itīs the "ancestor" of my own name. And it sounds cool.


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hah, good to know i'm not the only one. I'm on my second playthrough of ME1 with her, which will be followed by her 3rd outing in ME2. all with Liara 'natch. Kaidan is a bit wet.

I have actually started a male playthrough but it's not gone far...
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This isn't directly related to Mass Effect 2, but Concordia University in Montreal has added Mass Effect to the reading list for its Contemporary Canadian Fiction course:
http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2...-learning.html

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I rather liked the Shadow Broker DLC. It bridges that ME comic into the game. I thought that was pretty cool. Plus, my femshep got to resume her relationship with Liara. It seems they're going to release some more DLC that closes the gap between ME2 and ME3? I think that's what I read anyways.


I'm playing as a renegade male shepard on my current playthrough. I picked Sentinel for my class, and I like it. I get the Tech Armor AND decent offensive powers (Push and Warp). Plus I get to pick a bonus power (Warp Ammo).

Since I've played ME2 so many times, I just turn on subtitles and listen to podcasts while playing. And since my last playthrough was femshep, whenever I read the subtitles, I hear femshep in my head. It's really weird when my current Shepard is a dude.
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^^ at least it means you don't hear mr-thick-neck-chops-of-steel-farts-bullets macho man Mark Meers do his thang. Jennifer Hale is way better. helps that she was Bastila as well if i'm being completely honest.

oh, and sentinels are amazing in Me2, damn near unkillable, but they suck a bit in Me1 for me. give me a vanguard any day.
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truth. I definitely vote for Female Shepard as the canon (despite the default being a male in-game) and them casting Jennifer Hale as Jane Shepard in the upcoming Mass Effect movie. anyone? anyone?

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truth. I definitely vote for Female Shepard as the canon (despite the default being a male in-game) and them casting Jennifer Hale as Jane Shepard in the upcoming Mass Effect movie. anyone? anyone?



infiltrator for the win. X-98e Widow Anti-Material is pure beast
I dont even want a movie that "canonises" some choices. Isnīt playing your own story one of the main points of ME? And yeah, Infiltrators ftw. Played INF in ME1, played it in ME2 and will play it in ME3. Also, i made a ME1 playthrough with a soldier a few weeks ago, but didnt like it. It was just so freaking boring shooting everything with those assault rifles....


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