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Old 09-14-2012, 04:04 PM   #41
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I loved Sam Kinison. Shame he couldn't have died old fat and of some weird venereal disease.


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Old 09-14-2012, 11:50 PM   #42
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More like all of the above...You put 5 Americans in any room and you get 25 different opinions on any subject.
Samara'd have approved.

Sam was freakin' hilarious.

As to the whole susceptability to killing others, I agree that for most of us it might be a matter of education/environment, but there's also genetics to consider. Some people (as individuals, not groups) are just more predisposed toward violence. You could spend your life teaching people to love one another, but the right set of circumstances can reduce us to savages. When you start wedding things like ideologies (secular or theological) with ambitions and ignorance, you get a volatile explosive mix.

Re the whole west vs islam issue and terrorism in general, it mostly seems to be a case of asymetrical warfare. Most, if not all, radical muslims know that they cannot defeat the US (or Russia, Europe, PRC, etc..) on the field of battle and must find other ways to defeat their sworn enemies. This is part of the reason I don't buy framing the "war on terror" as a law enforcement issue. I'd also guess that a lot of westerners in general, and Americans specifically, might be less suspicious of muslims if they fought harder (or even at all in many cases) to control the radicals amonst them. No doubt that many muslims might say they'd be less antagonistic toward the west if it weren't so meddlesome in their backyards.


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Old 09-15-2012, 07:37 PM   #43
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@LynkFormer: not political views, but religious views.
There's a difference?


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Old 09-15-2012, 09:04 PM   #44
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There's a difference?
Are you being sarcastic?
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Old 09-15-2012, 09:23 PM   #45
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Not at all.


"They should rename the team to the Washington Government Sucks. Put Obama on the helmet. Line the entire walls of the stadium with the actual text of the ACA.
Fix their home team score on the board to the debt clock, they can win every game 17,000,000,000,000 to 24. Losing team gets taxed by the IRS 100%, then droned."
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Old 09-15-2012, 09:42 PM   #46
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Old 09-15-2012, 09:44 PM   #47
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They're one and the same.

Politics=religion.

LOL@both.


"They should rename the team to the Washington Government Sucks. Put Obama on the helmet. Line the entire walls of the stadium with the actual text of the ACA.
Fix their home team score on the board to the debt clock, they can win every game 17,000,000,000,000 to 24. Losing team gets taxed by the IRS 100%, then droned."
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Old 09-15-2012, 09:48 PM   #48
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They're one and the same.

Politics=religion.

LOL@both.
Government and religion are intertwined.

Just look at the views of the Republican Party.



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Old 09-15-2012, 09:54 PM   #49
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The Democrats are no better; their BS is just more of a secular nature.


"They should rename the team to the Washington Government Sucks. Put Obama on the helmet. Line the entire walls of the stadium with the actual text of the ACA.
Fix their home team score on the board to the debt clock, they can win every game 17,000,000,000,000 to 24. Losing team gets taxed by the IRS 100%, then droned."
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Old 09-15-2012, 10:02 PM   #50
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Just look at the views of the Republican Party.

Actully that's an oversimplification. Both parties in America are composed of mostly religious people. The dems take from the "feed, clothe, etc... the poor" and the republicans favor things like traditional marriage and anti-abortion stances.

While I wouldn't go quite as far as Q in making religion and politics one as one in the same, both share many similiarities (any/all sides having set ideas and the conviction that they are right) and often use many of the same tactics to advance their causes.


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Old 09-15-2012, 10:22 PM   #51
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Which brings me to another thing.

The creation of political parties is one of the things Washington advised against, isn't it? As well as shoving our fingers into foreign countries' affairs?



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Old 09-15-2012, 10:26 PM   #52
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Which brings me to another thing.

The creation of political parties is one of the things Washington advised against, isn't it? As well as shoving our fingers into foreign countries' affairs?
Haha; he didn't really say that did he?

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The Democrats are no better; their BS is just more of a secular nature.
So you don't follow politics? (I don't either). Who do you NOT want to get elected this year?
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Haha; he didn't really say that did he?
Not the exact words. They were actually along the lines of this: "Restrict your dealings in the foreign affairs of Europe."

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Who do you NOT want to get elected this year?
Obama and Romney.

Gary Johnson for President.



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Old 09-15-2012, 10:58 PM   #54
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Who do you NOT want to get elected this year?
Flip a coin.


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Fix their home team score on the board to the debt clock, they can win every game 17,000,000,000,000 to 24. Losing team gets taxed by the IRS 100%, then droned."
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Old 09-15-2012, 11:19 PM   #55
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Flip a coin.
HAHAHAHAHA XD. I'm glad I joined this forum.

This conversation went from 9/11 to George Washington, Obama, and Romney.
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Old 09-15-2012, 11:23 PM   #56
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HAHAHAHAHA XD. I'm glad I joined this forum.

This conversation went from 9/11 to George Washington, Obama, and Romney.
And Gary Johnson.




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Old 09-15-2012, 11:57 PM   #57
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HAHAHAHAHA XD. I'm glad I joined this forum.

This conversation went from 9/11 to George Washington, Obama, and Romney.


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Old 09-16-2012, 12:15 AM   #58
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I will regret taking this conversation to a different direction?

Why?
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Old 09-16-2012, 12:24 AM   #59
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I will regret taking this conversation to a different direction?

Why?
You will regret your ignorance for not knowing Gary Johnson.



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Old 09-16-2012, 12:36 AM   #60
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I'm usually pretty good about threads going in their own direction, but this is getting stupid... I mean more than usual.

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Old 09-16-2012, 12:42 AM   #61
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And Gary Johnson.

Gary Johnson.......the politician?
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Gary Johnson.......the politician?
The Libertarian Party presidential nominee.

I thought you guys were educated.



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Old 09-16-2012, 05:58 PM   #63
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